RS 5tu

iTrader: (2)

Yeh i sold it to a guy in Manchester, And it not about the fine its the principle of the matter.

fuzzy

what principle? the plates dont meet with british standards so theres not really an argument against? whats your reasoning and excuse for the judge?

RS 5tu

iTrader: (2)

The fact that is a BS fine and not alot of motorist are aware of it and even a copper i spoke to was unaware so how was i to know? I think a warning should had been given and not just another fine on a legit motorist over a trivial offence.

RS 5tu

iTrader: (2)

And oh look another car with out a bs number https://passionford.com/forum/general-car-related-discussion/251252-got-a-new-car-today.html

col cos1

iTrader: (5)

mine had the bs numbers on them but i cut my plates down so no longer has the bs stamp,still passes mot everytime

fuzzy

so your defence is you didnt know the law and lots of other people are doing it? theres no grey area thats still guilty as charged as far as i can see and im sure thats how the judge will see it as well. in my experience challenging a law however shit it is doesnt go down well with judges and they end up fining you more than the original amount to teach you a lesson.
good luck with it though.

stevieturbo

No they arent.


They are as legal as silver/black plates......

Only applicable to cars of a certain age.

RS 5tu

iTrader: (2)

I am not saying i am not guilty, But tell me how i can prevent something i am unaware of?? There for a warning would have been issued as it not like it was a blatant disregard of the law, Or even a serious offence.

fuzzy

there is no deviation allowed from standard size and font, standard spacing and reflective white or yellow . it comes down purely to whether or not a copper wants to bother about it or not at the time.

fuzzy

not knowing is no defence . as the owner of the car its your responsability to comply with all the laws. no one elses.
i know its a load of shite but thats how it is. you could possibly argue that it had passed an mot with the plates if it actually did?

Stu @ M Developments

iTrader: (12)

Its for PLATES made after, not cars made after.

RS 5tu

iTrader: (2)

I know that and all the above are fine i am being done coz is has no British standard number thats it..

Stu @ M Developments

iTrader: (12)

Its now ILLEGAL to manufacture plates that arent BS marked by teh way, so all these problems will become a thing of teh past soon. maybe you could use that angle to prove to teh judge its a big problem with teh public not understanding,. hence thay have targetted the plate manufacturers instead.

Stu @ M Developments

iTrader: (12)

Is that true? Not because of reflectivity? If so, simply state they were manufactured prior to the law coming into effect. Job done. I was fooked when it happened to me as i had a private plate on a car i had just bought...

fuzzy

you previously stated it was for 2 problems of the bs number and the pressed steel?

RS 5tu

iTrader: (2)

Ill try that one Stu, I want to have a clear understanding of what i want to say prior to going into the court room. Regardless of anything els,

RS 5tu

iTrader: (2)

Nope, BS number and there was no post code of where it was made (usually in the middle of the pat e at the bottom.)
Witch is irellavent imo becouse if i make 500,00 plate but go bust (out of business/ move address) then are all previous plates illegal??

Stu @ M Developments

iTrader: (12)

I am a legal number plate supplier and the BSAU145d and supplier postcode only has to be applied to number plates SUPPLIED after the 1st September 2001. How old is your car? Can it be proved that YOU had them made and fitted them?

Interesting info here:

mechanic28

iTrader: (5)

i have actually failed cars on the MOT for this bizzare law

RS 5tu

iTrader: (2)

They were on the car when i got it and have no clue when they were put on.

Stu @ M Developments

iTrader: (12)

Well you CANNOT be prosecuted for non fitment of BSAU standard plates then pal. I fail to see why you are worrying.

Stu @ M Developments

iTrader: (12)

Only cars after the above date though of course?

Stu @ M Developments

iTrader: (12)

http://www.dvla.gov.uk/media/pdf/lea...mberplates.pdf

Download that and take it with you pal.

mechanic28

iTrader: (5)

yep of course although i have to say i dont like failing them because of it!very pointless imo

stevieturbo

It's scandalous the pettiness of some cops etc

Whilst you are in court, having your time wasted, the courts time wasted, and the police having wasted even more time and money bringing the prosecution.....

I wonder how much real crime is actually taking place.

RS 5tu

iTrader: (2)

Not to add the fact that i am having time of work to go to court, It takes the p*ss i am fed up with the petty cops on Blackpool, Spot my number plates from a mile you i ask then to find the cu*ts who stole my car and all you get is there is nothing we can do.
Oh the joys of owning a car...
Cheers btw Stu ill take a copy with me thx for the help

fuzzy

the thing is , its quite possible if you argue the case and provide written stuff as evidence they could adjorn it and call you back to court again once theyve had time to do enquiries for themselves meaning more wasted time and lost wages. sometimes its better,quicker and cheaper just to admit the original charge whilst acting all humble in front of the judge. shite but true.

RS 5tu

iTrader: (2)

No, Why should i pay for something that i did not do i did not put them on just to drive about waiting for a fine, Also if they were indeed fitted before april 2001 then they are legal!.....

S1rst

Thats a bit petty for sure. You didnt fail the attitude test when they pulled you over did you by any chance? No offence, but it seems very much like you may have?