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25-07-2008, 09:30 AM
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I nailed that lap, I properly LOVE Percy, and my mum is ubercool!
I'm going to take her the Westy and Percy to a beginners day soon and teach her how to drive
Your car looks hard as hell in the metal Rich. The dish on the front wheels is just soooooo foooking wicked!
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25-07-2008, 09:35 AM
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Lee how did you manage to get on track with the Porsche?! I saw Dingy advertising a couple of spaces but Ford only, and I was taking the 5 
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25-07-2008, 09:42 AM
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I didnt get one full hot lap last night due to the temps.
The White MK2 XR2 Fiesta (PF one????) was properly fast round corners!!!! Not much if anything corners like my Westy does but I was following that thing around Coram where I usually have to slow up if anything else is in front. I had to really pedal hard to stay with it!!!!! Awesome handling.
Tried to stay on the gas past the pits where everyone was watching but ACT temps pushing 60's there and you could really feel the ignition backing off so could not keep it nailed. Was still pulling 120 by the start of the pit wall though!
Just need to sort this Water Inj prob tonight and then back on the trailer for TOTB Sunday.
See a few of you there.
25-07-2008, 09:43 AM
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I rang up and they wouldn't refund but the person on the phone said I could bring another car. BUT they were unaware that Dave at PF wanted to make it Fords only OR presumed I meant another Ford...
Once I got there Dave was kind enough to make an exception and let as
1. I had driven all that way and ORIGINALLY booked on in the Sierra.
2. Its not as if I've not been a Ford fan for like a zillion years!
3. I grizzled and sulked
4. I slipped him a large brown envelope
Sadly it won't happen again.... Although my Westfield is VERY much Ford based so hopefully he will be ok will that.
Top man Dave. AWESOME night and your Fiesta is very very very fast! I was driving very near the edge in the 911 if you hadn't realised!
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25-07-2008, 09:44 AM
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Yep, "Mummy Manning" is uber cool and had helped me with some Anti Hystamine tablets after that barsteward wasp sting me on the lip!!!
I didnt get one full hot lap last night due to the temps.
The White MK2 XR2 Fiesta (PF one????) was properly fast round corners!!!! Not much if anything corners like my Westy does but I was following that thing around Coram where I usually have to slow up if anything else is in front. I had to really pedal hard to stay with it!!!!! Awesome handling.
Tried to stay on the gas past the pits where everyone was watching but ACT temps pushing 60's there and you could really feel the ignition backing off so could not keep it nailed. Was still pulling 120 by the start of the pit wall though!
Just need to sort this Water Inj prob tonight and then back on the trailer for TOTB Sunday.
See a few of you there.
I didnt get one full hot lap last night due to the temps.
The White MK2 XR2 Fiesta (PF one????) was properly fast round corners!!!! Not much if anything corners like my Westy does but I was following that thing around Coram where I usually have to slow up if anything else is in front. I had to really pedal hard to stay with it!!!!! Awesome handling.
Tried to stay on the gas past the pits where everyone was watching but ACT temps pushing 60's there and you could really feel the ignition backing off so could not keep it nailed. Was still pulling 120 by the start of the pit wall though!
Just need to sort this Water Inj prob tonight and then back on the trailer for TOTB Sunday.
See a few of you there.
25-07-2008, 09:44 AM
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i friends wih both,
and i agree, i could have taken the PUG, (with ford parts)
maybe's it's becuase i will show some of the ford boys up?
or it's because i'm welsh, and theyn feel inferior
25-07-2008, 09:51 AM
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Once I got there Dave was kind enough to make an exception and let as
1. I had driven all that way and ORIGINALLY booked on in the Sierra.
2. Its not as if I've not been a Ford fan for like a zillion years!
3. I grizzled and sulked
4. I slipped him a large length of Porkie love in the back of the pit garage
1. I had driven all that way and ORIGINALLY booked on in the Sierra.
2. Its not as if I've not been a Ford fan for like a zillion years!
3. I grizzled and sulked
4. I slipped him a large length of Porkie love in the back of the pit garage
25-07-2008, 09:54 AM
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Good night, had a run out with Loader in his saph.
It was one of the Blue Fiesta ST's that spat oil down the start finish not sure what happened though.
I timed Loader at 1.27 min and that was a steady lap and having to back off for a car coming out of the pits. My mate Mini was doing 1.45's in his XR2 with a Ł50 1800 Zetec on carbs. Both lads first time driving Snetty.
Polly did you get back alright, saw you had unhooked trailer just before Thetford.
It was one of the Blue Fiesta ST's that spat oil down the start finish not sure what happened though.
I timed Loader at 1.27 min and that was a steady lap and having to back off for a car coming out of the pits. My mate Mini was doing 1.45's in his XR2 with a Ł50 1800 Zetec on carbs. Both lads first time driving Snetty.
Polly did you get back alright, saw you had unhooked trailer just before Thetford.
.I could have done with another few hours really as I'd only just got to grips with the track layout by the end of the evening.
And a change of tyres from combe prob would of helped my times.
Good little event, just a shame I had 7.5 hrs driving to do as well to get there and back.
25-07-2008, 09:55 AM
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I need to double check the MAP then to see where its starting to back it off.
Tony, in your opinion are charge temps in the late 50's and 60's OK then? I only see them on long straights and especially when the ambient is high.
Usually the WI helps to keep them in the 40's and early 50's max but it decided not to work last night.
ECU was triggering once each time the car was restarted but then would not again. I need to check the wiring. No faults showing in descpro. Pump works fine manually triggered.
Tony, in your opinion are charge temps in the late 50's and 60's OK then? I only see them on long straights and especially when the ambient is high.
Usually the WI helps to keep them in the 40's and early 50's max but it decided not to work last night.
ECU was triggering once each time the car was restarted but then would not again. I need to check the wiring. No faults showing in descpro. Pump works fine manually triggered.
25-07-2008, 09:57 AM
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couldnt remember percy's name.and what with the boxter too didnt want to get confused.didnt want to keep you chatting either lee,i know what you are like on track days! ie running round like a blue arsed fly trying to get as much done as you can.
will catch up at southend with the dogs
have to say there were a few storming cars there last night.
obviously patrick was on it, as was percy, pollys westy, dave's xr2 , was impressed with a few of the mass of mk5 fiesta's, and the little red mk1 fezzy was chipping well too
25-07-2008, 10:00 AM
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I should've gone to spectate really, ah wellTheres a few more Snetterton track days coming up, maybe a few of us can all book the same track day
25-07-2008, 10:03 AM
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chip, fuck the motorshow, we're off for an evening trackday at bedford to make up for it just going to pick up the car now
mrs manning is indeed a cool mum, cant imagine ever bringing my mum to a trackday
just going to pick up the car now mrs manning is indeed a cool mum, cant imagine ever bringing my mum to a trackday
25-07-2008, 10:31 AM
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i am a big fan of your car, but i'm not surprised as the intercooler install didn't look particularly effective.
if it were me, i would take the air in at the front of the nosecone and pass it over an angled i/c & rad combo before exiting from a vent on top of the nose cone (ala lotus elise) rather than trying to stuff air down a scoop that then has nowhere to exit, therefore not much flow.
hope you take that as constructive criticism
if it were me, i would take the air in at the front of the nosecone and pass it over an angled i/c & rad combo before exiting from a vent on top of the nose cone (ala lotus elise) rather than trying to stuff air down a scoop that then has nowhere to exit, therefore not much flow.
hope you take that as constructive criticism
25-07-2008, 11:08 AM
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i am a big fan of your car, but i'm not surprised as the intercooler install didn't look particularly effective.
if it were me, i would take the air in at the front of the nosecone and pass it over an angled i/c & rad combo before exiting from a vent on top of the nose cone (ala lotus elise) rather than trying to stuff air down a scoop that then has nowhere to exit, therefore not much flow.
hope you take that as constructive criticism
if it were me, i would take the air in at the front of the nosecone and pass it over an angled i/c & rad combo before exiting from a vent on top of the nose cone (ala lotus elise) rather than trying to stuff air down a scoop that then has nowhere to exit, therefore not much flow.
hope you take that as constructive criticism
I have tried everything and all different designs. The nose is SO small at the front that the intercooler size would be very small.......and then think about the space you need to get good sized boost hoses to it, restricting the radiator size.
Space and airflow oportunity is minimal.
I am always up for new ideas though!!! so fire away!
What makes you think the air has knowhere to go? The nose seals down onto the intercooler so the air HAS to go through it and then exits below.
25-07-2008, 11:25 AM
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Its actually very effective usually, just last night ambients were that little bit too high with no Water Inj.
I have tried everything and all different designs. The nose is SO small at the front that the intercooler size would be very small.......and then think about the space you need to get good sized boost hoses to it, restricting the radiator size.
Space and airflow oportunity is minimal.
I am always up for new ideas though!!! so fire away!
What makes you think the air has knowhere to go? The nose seals down onto the intercooler so the air HAS to go through it and then exits below.
I have tried everything and all different designs. The nose is SO small at the front that the intercooler size would be very small.......and then think about the space you need to get good sized boost hoses to it, restricting the radiator size.
Space and airflow oportunity is minimal.
I am always up for new ideas though!!! so fire away!
What makes you think the air has knowhere to go? The nose seals down onto the intercooler so the air HAS to go through it and then exits below.
25-07-2008, 12:22 PM
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can you not read my sig Tony? clearly says 2wd
Cheers Helen. Bit disapponiting so early on but ive been pushing the turbo hard at 2.5 bar so it was due to happen. Pleased it happended in this country though as last month i was at le mans pushing it even harder
Cheers Helen. Bit disapponiting so early on but ive been pushing the turbo hard at 2.5 bar so it was due to happen. Pleased it happended in this country though as last month i was at le mans pushing it even harder
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25-07-2008, 12:23 PM
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what's the pressure difference between the above and below? as that is what will dictate how much flow you can achieve. regardless of being sealed, the air will only flow from high pressur eto low pressure - hence why cars like the lotus elise, ford gt etc have the exit from the cooling pack at the top. i just think that yours is possibly the wrong way around, but i appreciate that it's not easy.
Yeah, I do understand the air pressure points but not sure how I would measure it. Ive also tried fans on top of the intercooler. This helped a little at low speeds but probably caused more restiction as higher speeds.
It is a pain and something I am always thinking about how to make better.
Lots of people have problems with the cooling of the radiator on Westies and mine seems to work fine even on track last night dont see more than 95 max so bit hesitant to move the radiator or disturb its current flow about.
Was you the guy in our garage with the Bike then? Sorry, just clicked and should have introduced ourselves if that was the case!!!!
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25-07-2008, 12:27 PM
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Yeah, that would not have been good, stuck over there. Yes can understand it being disappointing. Are you getting turbo sorted asap ?
Are you coming to Nat Day ?
25-07-2008, 12:48 PM
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Oooooh GAS! great idea chip...
Stu I'd do that... Westy is fast enough for 90% of the time...
Just gets some GAS installed so that you can stick that on for events like TOTB
Flick that switch when you hit 3rd gear. Will MASSIVELY help with cooling as well at high boost!
Stu I'd do that... Westy is fast enough for 90% of the time...
Just gets some GAS installed so that you can stick that on for events like TOTB
Flick that switch when you hit 3rd gear. Will MASSIVELY help with cooling as well at high boost!
25-07-2008, 12:54 PM
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Yes, you are correct, the standard exhaust manifold could cause you problems if you try and run a T4 and nitrous on it at the same time.
GT3071 (the smaller one that only does about 480bhp) on a decent manifold and with a 150bhp progressive nitrous kit and your car would just be fucking sick! And it would drive more nicely than it does now when just on the boost.
As porkie says, its not much of the time you would actually need the gas anyway, and the cooling effects of 150bhp of nitrous are MASSIVE