dojj

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300 brake on tb's will be fine and it'll make a cracking engine for a road car

there is someone who makes a girdle for the bottom end, but it's not that big a big of engineering as it's just a plate to tie the end caps together, and seeing as the sump tends to interfere with the installation of the girdle, it's a bit cut and shut to the sump to get it all to fit

for the amount of money i spent on the engine in my motor i could have had 400 brake worth of yb with better weight distribution for the car and better handling and better everything else

but it's nice to be different, even if it does cost you more and get you less

Stavros

does a girdle REALLY make a difference tho?
on a lot of cars a girdle is a placebo, does fuck all in reality.

anyone tried doing a half fill yet? if run a big oil cooler its not a real issue even on a track/road car.

i still dont think the 12v is as bad as people think it is, even if its very ordinary in n/a form. hmm...

r500

a but with respect i have gone far with ybs and sb chevys etc in the past and i just fancy this config ,just a pity theres not an abundance of GAA V6 24V engines , cos thats what i really want
im prepared to spend time and effrot on this engine but i do know its limitations , i may well stick to the 2.9 24v block with tbs for the moment
but the 3.7 litre 24v is my goal;

r500

yes but a turbo motor isnt really in keeping with my old skool mk1 cologne bodied rs capri

brad

lol , neither is a 1990 24v motor .
at the end of the day its your car and your choice , good luck with it whatever you go with

escort700bhp

i thi8nk what he means is that the capri mk1 did infact come
with a cologne engine originaly and its a derivative of that

brad

i think you'l find when the mk1 capri came out the cologne engine hadnt been invented . it had an essex v6

dojj

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you don't need to spend loads of time and effort on the girdle as you can just bolt on a better designed thicker crank splash guard that will go the whole distance across the mains

it's not down to anything other than the block flexing when it's pushed beyond around the 6500 rpm limit on sustained periods that it tends to let go on frequent occasions

JohnnyB

ahhhh no the essex and the cologne were devolped at about the same time.

Ford(England) made there 2.0 V6 and Ford(Germany) Made theres over time they increased size

I think the essex was a better block though as GAA form it made 400 bhp.

I think a 24v with TBs will look from a distance like a GAA engine so will look cool

JohnnyB

oooo one more thing, the standard valve springs are very soft so after 7000 rpm the thing valve bounces. Merlin perfomace used to do upraded ones, but I think its gone out of busness

mark_24v_wiring

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Was it Merlin that made the prosport 3000 engines?? 300bhp 24v for racing

Stavros

still think a half fill will do a lot better job than a girdle. like said, most aftermarket girdles seem to be just a placebo thing.

JohnnyB

yep

JohnnyB

I think Fitz at topboss still has a contact number for barry who used to own Merlin

dojj

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there is also the oil issue to worry about, the heads froth up and not enough oil returns at those sorts of speeds to the sump so you can get starvation issues too

so it starts to get more and more difficult to make that sort of power higher up the rev range

added to the fact that there was a rumour doing the rounds that 280 bhp was the max available from the standard inlet and anyone who claimed more was ridiculed

until the fella from turbo techincs pulled up in a 500 bhp tt 24V with the standard inlet fitted and it was then acceptable to be able to make that power

JohnnyB

The great thing about a 24v is give it some boost, it fucking loves it, the torque goes through the roof, cap you revs to 6k chuck 8 psi in there and you will have 330 odd foot ibs of torque at about 4k rpm

JohnnyB

PS just use a standard engine as well , no mods

Stavros

Head oil issue is common and simple. Head oil resitrictors. Happens on Skylines and tons of engines.

If they really thought 280bhp was maximum the inlet could do with forced induction the owners are even more complete mongaloids than I already imagined.

And any turbo car with any boost will give a bit over its cc in torque, 24V Cossie or any bloody engine really, thats no big deal. A 2.9 running 8psi giving 330lbft isnt exactly unexpected.

JohnnyB

yeah steve, but if you take 2.9 12v to get over 300 bhp takes a lote of money, but 24v heads flow very very good and the pistons are better conrods are better. 8 psi will make over 300 bhp on a 24v it will need a lot more boost to do the same on a 12v

Jim Galbally

1bar boost + on the 12v for 300bhp deffo!

dojj

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on the 12V it makes shit loads of torque right from the get go
i had my peak of 390+ lb/ft at 1900 rpm and could pootle around in 5th at 10 pmh

the power needs a bit more work to get out as it's limited in essence to around the 6k mark really as this is where the boost would tail off and there was no point reving beyond that mark

plus the limiter would kick in at 6300 rpm so you couldn't hit 60 in second, no matter how hard i treid i could only get 58.5 mph

r500

dont talk crap the cologne came out around the same timein the rs2600 .probably before the essex

r500

cheers mate , my point exactly

JohnnyB

r500 as I said before the essex started as a 2.0 in the corsair, the rs2600 was a devlopment of the cologne 2.0 which was in some german ford which escaps me at the mo

The cologne in its 2.8 form was regarded as a boat ancher by cosworth.


shit ports, shit block, shit every thing lol

sorry for being a nerd lol

r500

yes i know this but as i said , a pity there isnt an abundance of GAA engine and i would have gone that route ,there is only ever 100 biult so as a compromize the boa 24v was the most similar unit to use being ford etc and ease of spares etc

im happy with it anyways and wont look out of place

JohnnyB

if you want spares, check out barry at xr4i spares and www.topbossperformance.co.uk

escort700bhp

dojj

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the capri had a 2.0 V6 in it

5 points to the person who tells us what engine that was

2 bonus points to the person who names the year it came out

escort700bhp

dont think it came in v6 2.0 ??,trick question .v6 2.3 yes
year oct 69 ??

howd i do ? many points?

mark_24v_wiring

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2.0 v6 was a cologne engine first used in 1969 i think

JohnnyB

The 2.0 v6 was a MK1, but I am sure the Capri was a 1970's car?

JohnnyB

in 1969 you had the MK2 cortina, early MK1 escort, Corsair.

dojj

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0 points

5 points

2 points

r500

Quote:
Originally Posted by escort700bhp
dont think it came in v6 2.0 ??,trick question .v6 2.3 yes
year oct 69 ??

howd i do ? many points?

0 points

Quote:
Originally Posted by mark_24v_wiring
2.0 v6 was a cologne engine first used in 1969 i think

5 points

Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyB
The 2.0 v6 was a MK1, but I am sure the Capri was a 1970's car?

2 points

JohnnyB

ahhhh thinking about it the capri came out 69

StephTell

I'm with Jim's mum

Stavros

I was with Jims mum too, but I kept making fun of her wooden legs so she left me for Steph

mark_24v_wiring

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I beg to differ i deserve all 7 points

The first Ford Capri to bear that precise name was introduced in January 1969 at the Brussels Motor Show, with sales starting the following month. The intention was to reproduce in Europe the success Ford had had with the North American Ford Mustang; to produce a European pony car. It was mechanically based on the Cortina and built in Europe at the Dagenham and Halewood plants in the United Kingdom, the Genk plant in Belgium, and the Saarlouis and Cologne plants in Germany. The car was named Colt during development stage, but Ford were unable to use the name, as it was trademarked by Mitsubishi.

Although a fastback coupé, Ford wanted the Capri Mark 1 to be affordable for a broad spectrum of potential buyers. To help achieve that, it was available with a variety of engines. The British and German factories produced different line-ups. The continental model used the Ford Taunus V4 engine in 1.3, 1.5 and 1.7 L displacement, while the British versions were powered by the Ford Kent straight-4 in 1.3 and 1.6 L form. The Cologne V6 2.0 L served as initial range-topper. Until the end of the year, new sports versions were added: the 2300 GT in Germany, using a double-barrel carburettor with 125 PS (92 kW), and the 3000 GT in the UK, with the Essex V6, capable of 138 hp (103 kW).

dojj

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again, i trump all comers in my knowledge of things so obscure and useless, only i need to know or use them

r500