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Old 02-11-2004 | 11:26 AM
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If you would like any advice on the correct oil or recommendations on which grades and brands to use then please feel free to ask here.

We use a proprietary database of all cars made over the last 20 years and can look up all the lubricant requirements for you.

We will be arranging monthly "group buys" for those interested which will be discounted based on the number of orders, minimum 12.

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Hi oilman. I recently bought a 2wd saff that had a rebuilt engine and was being run in at the time on Mobile 1 Motorsport. After 1000 miles I replaced it with Castrol RS. Do you think I should put a mineral oil back in for another 1000 miles and if so what one should I use??? Castol GTX has been recommended to me.

I fear that the engine isn't running in properly because it's only had fully synthetics in it.
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[quote="ScoTTyBEEE"]Hi oilman. I recently bought a 2wd saff that had a rebuilt engine and was being run in at the time on Mobile 1 Motorsport. After 1000 miles I replaced it with Castrol RS. Do you think I should put a mineral oil back in for another 1000 miles and if so what one should I use??? Castol GTX has been recommended to me.

I fear that the engine isn't running in properly because it's only had fully synthetics in it.[/quote

This is a difficult one, when the engine was run in it should have had a mineral or at least a semi.

The Castrol RS 10w-60 is mineral based so that would be a help, even though it is the wrong grade, 10w-50 is about as thick as you want to go.

For peace of mind if was me I would put in a mineral and try to run in, the problem is with the risk of using a full synthetic from the start is the "varnishing" has already occured, did the engine builder put in the fully, if so can you take it back and tell him your noit happy?

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You recommend Silkolene pro s for my 440bhp cossie right??

what ever I get I will have a 25 litre drum from you and my mate possibly will too

Just need the other 10 people for group buy
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escort cos 2 litre 94 running stg1 at mo soon 2 be stg3 used on roads mainly cars done a gen 32,232 miles and full ford service which oil would you recommend cheers glenn
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escort cos 2 litre 94 running stg1 at mo soon 2 be stg3 used on roads mainly cars done a gen 32,232 miles and full ford service which oil would you recommend cheers glenn
I would recomend for your car a 5w-40 full synthetic, go for a true synthetic ie PAO or Ester/PAO based oil as these will have the stability to deal with the temps in your car.

I would look at the Silkolene PRO S 5w-40 or the Motul 300V 5w-40, these are both PAO/Ester and are used in these cars for competition use.

Tech specs here http://www.opieoils.co.uk/lubricants.htm

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Old 02-11-2004 | 12:19 PM
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You recommend Silkolene pro s for my 440bhp cossie right??

what ever I get I will have a 25 litre drum from you and my mate possibly will too

Just need the other 10 people for group buy
Yep, Silkolene Pro S 10w-50 is ideal.

We have 25 liter drums in stock.

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thanks il look in2 that , do sell if so what price and availability. im just about 2 run out of my formulaS 5w 50 ford oil
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awrite mate,

what would you recommend for this?

Make : BMW
Model : 318i
Year : 1992
Engine size and type : 1.8 petrol
Type of use (track/road etc) : road (mostly short journeys
Modifications that affect stock BHP. : zip




also which is best for a S2 ERST with 60k on the clock, boost at 13psi, previously ran castrol RS 10w60....which one would you recommmend?
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And how much is a 25 litre drum of Silkolene Pro S anyway?
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was going to make a post about oil but ill ask it here instead.

my n-reg escort si(1.8 zectec) is going to ford for a service next week and i was wondering what oil there gunna put in it, if u know or have any idea?
would have thought it would be a good oil being from the ford boys??
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awrite mate,

what would you recommend for this?

Make : BMW
Model : 318i
Year : 1992
Engine size and type : 1.8 petrol
Type of use (track/road etc) : road (mostly short journeys
Modifications that affect stock BHP. : zip




also which is best for a S2 ERST with 60k on the clock, boost at 13psi, previously ran castrol RS 10w60....which one would you recommmend?
FOr the BMW a 5w-40 full synthetic or a 10w-40 semi synthetic, I would go for a BMW approved one like the Motul X-Cess 5w-50.

For the S2 I would suggest the Silkolene Pro S 10w-50 ester synthetic, this is a full synthetic and the grade is ideal for the car, the Castrol RS 10w-60 is a hydrocracked mineral oil and not a synthetic in the true sense of the word. Also the 10w-60 grade is a little too thick.

Tech specs of oil here http://www.opieoils.co.uk/lubricants.htm

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Old 02-11-2004 | 01:49 PM
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And how much is a 25 litre drum of Silkolene Pro S anyway?
e-mail me at sales@opieoils.co.uk and I will forward prices on to you.

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Stg 3 esc cossie (28 psi)
60k mileage
hard use
Old 02-11-2004 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by imaloverofcars
was going to make a post about oil but ill ask it here instead.

my n-reg escort si(1.8 zectec) is going to ford for a service next week and i was wondering what oil there gunna put in it, if u know or have any idea?
would have thought it would be a good oil being from the ford boys??
The Zetecs call for a 5w-30, this is usually a semi synthetic. Your ford dealer should put ford approved 5w-30 in as standard, higher performance 5w-30 are available and even a full synthetic 5w-30.

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Stg 3 esc cossie (28 psi)
60k mileage
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Go for a good true synthetic of the 5w-40 to the 10w-50 grade, look at the Silkolene Pro S range or the Motul 300V, both of these are top synehtics used in competition use, ideal with a tage 3 engine.

Tech specs here http://www.opieoils.co.uk/lubricants.htm

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Oilman,

4x4 sapph cossie 1991, stage 1 (270bhp)
2wd sapph cossie 1988, stage 3 (350bhp)

Both road use

What do you recommend, can you give me (PM if necesary) prices please (not 25l drums).

Both are coming up to oil change time, so I would be looking to buy very soon.

Thanks
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cheers for the advice!!!

you sent me a club price list a while ago, but the Motul stuff aint on there, how much is it?
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i usually use valvoline 5/50 your opinions on it? and would i be better using the silkolene pro s 5/40?
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Oilman,

4x4 sapph cossie 1991, stage 1 (270bhp)
2wd sapph cossie 1988, stage 3 (350bhp)

Both road use

What do you recommend, can you give me (PM if necesary) prices please (not 25l drums).

Both are coming up to oil change time, so I would be looking to buy very soon.

Thanks
Greg
Greg,

For these cars I would use the same oil, I would use a full synthetic, a true one so no petrolium base stock, so it should be PAO or Ester/PAO around the 10w-50 grade. Being a tuned but older engine a slightly thicker oil would be a good idea, but not a 10w-60 as that is too thick causes drag.

Clicky on this http://www.opieoils.co.uk/lubricants.htm and have a look at the Silkolene Pro S 10w-50

e-mail me at sales@opieoils.co.uk for some prices.

Cheers

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i usually use valvoline 5/50 your opinions on it? and would i be better using the silkolene pro s 5/40?
The Valvoline is ok, a middle of the road oil, the 5w-50 is a hydrocracked mineral oil, so not a true synthetic.

There is a problem with the 5w-50 grade that all oil companies make and that is they have to use so much VI Improver (this keeps the oil in grade) to bridge the gap between the 5w and the SEA50, with so much VI Improver the oil becomes week if you like and will drop out of grade quite quick, so it will soon be functioning as a 5w-40 or lower.

I would suggest a shear stable oil like the Silkolene Pro S, but look at the 10w-50 as this will give better protection to the engine when hot, assuming your car is modified and driven hard.

Why did you have to clean the post up? what did I miss?

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Originally Posted by ballin
cheers for the advice!!!

you sent me a club price list a while ago, but the Motul stuff aint on there, how much is it?
E-mail me at sales@opieoils.co.uk and I will forward on to you an up to date price list.

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fair enough popeye

was only having a laugh, but can see that some might find it offensive so can accept that you've removed it from this serious post.
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Simon, Guy, you have mail
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here's one for you.

1991 granada scorpio engine

24v 2.9i (cosworth)

normal road use + very minor BHP increase
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oil man!

what you say for a high milage s2 rs pushing 201bhp! about to fit a high lift cam too!

gets alot of hard usage
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another one mate....

Hyundai Coupe Gen 1 (1998)
2.0 petrol
road use
very slight increase in bhp (induction, zorst)

Cheers!

(is there a discount if you buy oil for 3 different cars? )
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If its of any interest, i use a Motul competition oil (fully synthetic) it gives incredible oil pressure from cold and maintains 40 psi hot and 65 psi at race pace . Smells like warm cherries too !
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I seem to recall in a previous post you mentioned that many so called fully synthetics were not in fact synthetics at all, so i was wondering if you could give me the low down on millers oils. I have used millers competition fully synthetic 10W-60 In my stage 1 4x4 saf cossie for a number of years now and i have no complaints but would like to know your opinions on it. The old girl is well up over 100K miles now, if that helps, Cheers Oilman
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Wot about Millers 5w-50 is that a fully synthetic oil.Am thinking of using this in my 400 bhp new engined cossie.Your advice would be much appreciated.
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here's one for you.

1991 granada scorpio engine

24v 2.9i (cosworth)

normal road use + very minor BHP increase
For just general day to day use, ford recomend a 5w-30. This grade is usually a semi syntheitc, but there are some fully syntheitcs out there as well.

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Originally Posted by james_birch
oil man!

what you say for a high milage s2 rs pushing 201bhp! about to fit a high lift cam too!

gets alot of hard usage
I personally would go for a 10w-50 full syntheitc, something like the Silkolene Pro S 10w-50 ester/pao.
Esters assist the additive pack in a motor oil formulation because they are surface-active (electrostatically attracted to metal surfaces), so they help to reduce wear and friction.

They are fluid at very low temperatures and at high temperatures they are very chemically stable and have low volatility (don’t evaporate away).

They also help to prevent hardening and cracking of oil seals at high temperatures making them ideal for tuned turbo engines that get some stick.

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Originally Posted by ballin
another one mate....

Hyundai Coupe Gen 1 (1998)
2.0 petrol
road use
very slight increase in bhp (induction, zorst)

Cheers!

(is there a discount if you buy oil for 3 different cars? )
The stock recomendation for this car is a 10w-40 semi syntheitc, you can stick with this by buying a good one, or move to a full syntheitc, either the 10w-40 grade, 5w-40 or 10w-50.

Cheers

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Originally Posted by plater
I seem to recall in a previous post you mentioned that many so called fully synthetics were not in fact synthetics at all, so i was wondering if you could give me the low down on millers oils. I have used millers competition fully synthetic 10W-60 In my stage 1 4x4 saf cossie for a number of years now and i have no complaints but would like to know your opinions on it. The old girl is well up over 100K miles now, if that helps, Cheers Oilman
Millers do say their 10w-60 is a true syntheitc, I personally do not know as we have not been able to get enough tech data to be sure, and this is an oil we have not had tested yet.

They do have a loyal following though.

Cheers

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Wot about Millers 5w-50 is that a fully synthetic oil.Am thinking of using this in my 400 bhp new engined cossie.Your advice would be much appreciated.
Again I do not know if it is a true syntheitc or not, however I would not go for a 5w-50 in a 400BHP car, the reason for this is because of the amount of VI Improver needed to keep the oil in grade.

Because the oil has such a large viscosity gap, they have to prop up the oil if you like with VI Improver and addatives to keep the oil stable and in grade, these addatives and VI improver get consumed quite quick. This grade does have a habbit of shearing down quite early because of this, a lot of manufacturers are phasing it out.

Go for something far more stable, like a true PAO/Ester 5w-40 or 10w-50 depending on use.

Cheers

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bumpin this useful post with another question

not sure which 10w40 semi-synthetic oil to go for in the BMW....any advice over castrol performance, fuchs titan xtr, silkolene xtr and motul 4100 turbolight?

i dont need anything amazing, its just my runaround hence the choice of semi.....only thing which might have a say to the choice is its done 150k and does a lot of short journeys...

any advice Guy/Simon?

thanks
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Hi mate,

Vauxhall C20 LET
Hybrid Turbo, EDS Phase 3.5, 20psi.
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Which oil is best please?

Also best gearbox oil for a Vauxhall F28 gearbox please?


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