louie1

I take it tony is your best friend (no disrespect to tony)
All this because i said late sapphire.
Anyway if (cosworth) did build a 4wd using a 205 block then you would be wrong aswell so i am not going to admit feckall until someone can prove it
Please can someone prove the above i so want to be right.(will you admit you are wrong then stu)

Turbosystems

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why
you made a statement based on no facts what so ever and then proceeded to argue with experts.Did you argue with your Teachers at school when they tried to teach you

dovboy

i'm sorry but wtf are you talking about!

tony has YB stamped on his butt cheek!!

CossieRich

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Louie1

STFU with your arrogance and bullshit. You are ruining a thread where someone has asked for help with your petty squabbling because you were corrected by 2 of the biggest tuners in the business.

joffy

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ive got a genuine 1984 early model medium sized turbo 2wd escort cosworth built by ford and its got a knock sensor and flames down the side, and rockets that come out of the exhausts and a yellow light on the top and a sensor that changes all traffic lights to green, and unless tony or stu can prove me wrong then im right so there

Bart

Problem solved, new cps was faulty. Changed it for another new one and it started without a problem. Thanks for all the help and pointing me where to find the problem!!!

louie1

NO! i said firstly that late sapphires have a knock sensor FACT! and in saying LATE i meant the last off the sapphires made. obviously i didnt qoute car registrations or exact vin numbers as i dont THINK! that every 4wd has a knock sensor. I would like someone to provide some information, to support what fords may have done with early built 4wd's ie using a 205 block with no knock sensor ect. (like fords never done anything out of the ordinary)
mitsy fq,dovboy,cossierich,joffy age 6. there is more to life than butt kissing even if it does say yb
as for bart glad you have sorted your car mate. i apologise to yourself if you think i spoiled your thread after all i only started with advice until people started being petty.

Stu @ M Developments

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This was Pettty?

Grow up mate. It was very good accurate advice so that all who were reading it would have the correct facts. including you.

cossie604

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I think ive got your cars sister car sat in my garage...its the same except its not got flames, insted its got bubbles...unless this bit was aftermarket, can anyone confirm?

ps dont suppose you've got a spare rocket have you? Mines been missing one for years and its really gonna show up in concours

louie1

Ok stu, there is obviously no discussion here, just childish comments.! (cossie604 age 5)you again say that there are no 4wd cosworths ever built without a knock sensor, all i said was do you know that for fact, or could you possibly see sense that maybe there is????

cabrio zo

Glad you got it sorted when our crank sensor failed coulnd't get the thing to start full stop

I think the 4x4 205 block dicussion is an interesting thought, how many 4x4's were produced? 12k? IIRC they had to do 2,500 homogolation (or was it 5k?) so could some of the other 9,500 that were produced differ slightly?

They may NOT have produced any 4x4's with 205 blocks but COULD 4x4 be feasible without L8, 200 block and knock sensor etc etc? All hypotheticalof course, we like 'debate' on PF. Sounds like a case for Mulder and Scully

Z

Turbosystems

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Do you know for a fact that any where built with l6 and the old 205 block.
Stu and I are not aware of of any.
A point was just clarified for you and others that late is facelift model,and you seem to have taken this personaly.
Now you have taken it upon yourself to guess peoples ages as 5-6 years old you are making yourself look one of these

Paul_RS

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This may sound silly, but can a 205 block support the front diff ok? I know the casting was thicker on the 200 block to take the added strain of the front diff...

louie1

no mitsy just fed up of stupid replies including your own.not knocking stu or tony as i dont even know them but,can they possibly know everything?
i do not know of any 205 engined 4wd just put up a point that there maybe some built and wanted others to join in and not just get a load of defensive comments because you all have to gang up on someone elses opinion. thats all. not a matter of being right or wrong just finding out what maybe.

CossieRich

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just in case you couldnt make yourself look any more of a mong than you already have, ive highlighted your own words so you can see for yourself. Your argument on here is of something you say you do not know of anyway. You are just here for amusement surely.

BTW Tony is Misty FQ. Hope that helps with your learning curve on PF. Be sure to drop in sometime with somemore bullshit to add to the mixing pot

Turbosystems

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you should have just asked
did ford ever use a 205 block and no knock sensor in a 4x4

cabrio zo

So, is it possible, if unlikely? Just unreported on any having been found by any tuners, experts, garages, breakers, enthusiasts, backyard builders or clairvoyants etc as being found to exist - needle haystack for this pruported hypothetical factory build?

Z

louie1

well done for your observation RICH. no need to highlight it for me as i wrote it!.
you now say that my arguement is something that i haven't seen anyway.thats correct as i haven't, but does that mean there isnt one because I HAVENT SEEN ONE!!!!! I DONT KNOW THATS WHY I ASKED. i just think it maybe possible however slim.
I am happy to take the name mong you gave, me as long as you take the name chief butt kisser as you are ultimatley the best at it. . i hate to be like this if you stop so will I. roflol. I bet you are a nice bloke really.

As for you mitsy fair comment: did ford ever use a 205 block and no knock sensor in a 4x4
what cosworth would you describe as a facelift model??

cossie604

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Pweesssse mwister be ma fwend

louie1

And another one well done.

cossie604

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If you dont be ma fwend i'll tell teacher that you touched me

CossieRich

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except neither Stu or Misty (Tony) are the tuner of my cossie, so i wouldnt be kissing their butt. Im just trying to show you that your debate has no weight as by your own admission their is nothing to debate.

JTECH James

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early 4x4s (i had one)89\90 g plate, indeed had 200 blocks and knock sensors.

all 4x4s did. as said by two very well respected tuners above.

a facelift saff (i have one now) k plate, is a 92 spec, revised dash, green top closed loop, which runs the same block, knock sensor as the early ones.


louie 1 stop being a div ffs

louie1

sounds like the teacher beat you on a regular basis.

louie1

so to hope fully end this. i cant have a opinion. unless its the same as who is the most popular on here!

cossie604

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Thats it pick on the five year old insted of sticking to your argument against the members of passionford...im gonna tell my daddy of you

cossie604

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You did not come on here with a simple opinon. You came on here being arrogant and rather rude to a couple of the most respected ford tuners in the uk scene.....you just took it to heart when they rightly so bit back

Turbosystems

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carry on the way your going and the whole of pf will want give you a beating
can you please go and annoy someone else
are you related to dingy or are you just a complete dinguin

cossie604

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tbh teacher did beat me regular...she was abit of a kinky whore and she liked to dominate me as i approached my mid teens...and people put state education down

louie1

Its very big of you to type these messages.
nobody has managed to type anything constructive or interesting about my opinion on here than to say its bullshit.
i thought this was a friendly ford site?

JTECH James

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its not a case of popular, its just right and wrong.

4x4s had 200 blocks and knock sensors. fact.

how do we know? because the 4x4s were revised to cure problems with earlier engines, and ford advertised this fact.


what your saying about using leftover 205s is bollocks, its like saying some focus rs were made in white, because ford had some paint left from the previous model


dont tell me, not all 4x4s were 4x4 afterall ,as they used the leftover t5 boxes......rofl

Nicole

louie1

what your saying about using leftover 205s is bollocks, its like saying some focus rs were made in white, because ford had some paint left from the previous model


dont tell me, not all 4x4s were 4x4 afterall ,as they used the leftover t5 boxes......rofl[/QUOTE]

thats actually funny.
all i asked was for constructive information not stupid replies and insults.
i wondered if they might of built a 4wd with a 205 block and found it to be weak and therefore replaced.

JTECH James

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no,it was found a problem area on the 2wd, so revised for 4x4 production

ford\cosworth already knew it was a weak spot, hence the rs500 having a stronger block years previously
and the 200 block is quite similar to that used and tested in the 500

cossie604

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Thats not wondering, or asking a question....that's verging on belittlement. You cant just start bleating this aint a firendly place or people just didnt answer you after they've sat there and read your posts....as all your posts bar the first one which Stu edited for you to make it clearer for the less educated that float around these forums have been made to read like this one ive quoted ie quite patronising. Its ok tho...buy me a chocolate muffin and i'll forgive you for calling me a five year old

pee vee

well unless they made some 4x4 cossies on L6 ecu. then they all had a knock sensor..

the management wouldn't of worked properly without it. not safely for warranties anyway.

ever seen a factory 4x4 cos that isnt on L8 or P8? thought not. lol

cabrio zo

cossie604

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Thats about as constructive as me bringing to the table the story of my teacher wanting to walk over my back in her high heels whilst calling me a naughty boy

louie1

Ok, i am stubborn as are most of you in this thread. (my opinion) not fact.
i can understand why they used a different block in a 500 as it was built to race, the 4wd was built to be safe to drive thats why i made the comment about the 205 in the first place as fords often used parts from earlier models to build new one's.
As for you stu i will happily buy you a muffin if you can send me a picture of your 1984 2wd escort cosworth

JTECH James

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the 4x4 was going to be used in motorsport....not watched and rally then?

and it was to be the most produced cossie aswell,12000 saffs iirc, so reliability would have been in the design plans im sure