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Old 02-07-2008, 08:39 PM
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Default waterproof bathroom ceiling speakers

anyone got any experience of waterproof speakers?

i'm looking at fitting a pair in the bathroom ceiling, and want good sound quality (not just background music quality).

as i'll be using a squeezebox, active speakers would be ideal, otherwise i also need to consider amplification (probably above the ceiling in the loft - volume control not an issue as the squeezebox has a variable output).

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Old 02-07-2008, 08:40 PM
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I remember Kenwood used to make some "Marine" speakers back in the day.

Maybe worth checking their website?
Old 02-07-2008, 08:56 PM
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sony as well.

remember that car/boat spkrs are 4ohm, lots of home hifi won't like that. check the back of the amplifier, it'll say something like "6-8ohms"

you can go higher, but not lower (although if you're not going too loud, should be ok)
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You can just wire them in series, you but will have to get 4 speakers as opposed to 2.
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fusion do marine speakers. And if that not good enough quality for you so do boston acoustics (if you want to remorgage)
Old 02-07-2008, 09:02 PM
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water resistant speakers and good quality don't really mix. It would be worth getting some quality speakers but makesure they are plastic rimmed. and not paper cone. Don't install directly above bath or shower and i think you be ok.
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seen that bose do some marine ones that look like they'll do the job



http://www.bose.com/controller?event...hebox.jsp#tabs
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bose also do a really good wall mounted speaker designed for garden use, they sound very good and i think they are self amplified too

though not ceiling speakers they are very cheep on ebay and ALWAYS forsale due to alot of places using them !!!!!
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If there is going to be no electrics in the bathroom, just use normal speakers IMHO

The marine ones are for boats etc, unless ur gonna mount em in ur jacuzzi
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i don't want to fit something and have to change them a couple of months down the line as the humidity has made them soggy or mouldy or something. i'd rather buy proper gear in the first place.

there are loads of options of outdoor wall mounted speakers, but they look crap. ceiling speakers are more subtle
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As said BOSE!
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Since the advent of the RIB market, there are absolutely loads of marine speakers available these days. you can spend as little or as much as you want to these days.

Only slight word of caution is to make sure that the resistance of the speakers is matched to the output of the amp, as most marine speakers are geared to work with car style 12v amps (which IIRC work at 8ohm?), and the domestic amps tend to work at 4ohm (May be other way around - as said - been a long long time!)

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Yeh other way round
Home audio is 8ohms, but as I said before, just need to get 4 speakers and wire them in series

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Bose most definatly
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thanks for all the advice so far, especially about the impedance. although i really only want 2 speakers as the room is not that big.

Originally Posted by Matt J
To be honest if you're going to use the vari out of the s/box then I wouldnt worry too much about the quality of the speakers
i know that you're an audiophile Matt, so i respect what you are saying. the squeezebox will also be playing mp3 (mostly 192 bitrate) so the sound quality is not perfect from source. but i still want some speakers with a decent range as i cannot stand music sounding like it's coming out of a biscuit tin.

have you heard a squeezebox? the variable output is on the RCA output and not like the variable output from a headphone socket

need to also source a small amp - guess it can be just a power amp as the volume is varied by remote on the squeezebox?
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will do mate if i do it that is. waiting to hear about a job that i went for interview for - if i get it i am moving house so i will not be building in swanky audio gear

any advice on an amp please? will a power amp be all i need? ideally small, it will be up the loft so if possible not affected by dust - but i guess you don't get any amps without ventage for the power transistors? i won't need a massive power output though
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What are you using to control sound etc? What is a squeeze box?
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CAUTION KEEP YOUR DISTANCE!!
Nick is singing in the shower

My wife keeps on at me to do this too

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Originally Posted by costina
CAUTION KEEP YOUR DISTANCE!!
Nick is singing in the shower

My wife keeps on at me to do this too

Paul
you're not wrong - check out the bath mounted microphone

http://www.crosswater.co.uk/products...asp?BrandID=41

Matt - that looks ideal with a low voltage transformer as well. spot on if it goes loud enough. speakers say 'compatible with amplifiers 10 -80 W'. the last thing that you want to do is overdrive an amp and get clipping which can damage speakers.

Originally Posted by dvid
What are you using to control sound etc? What is a squeeze box?
a squeezebox is a wireless music player. i have all of my music on a little 'server' under my stairs that is hard wired to my wireless router. a little program runs on that server to 'serve' up the music to any connected squeezebox, and i have 1 in the kitchen and 1 in the bedroom. they can play different music, or can be synchronised together - great for parties where you can have the same music throughout the house and/or garden exactly in time

you just have a lovely big display and a remote control to point at it to select your music. you
can also connect to the server software by pc, laptop, mobile phone or whatever and tell it what to play. will be brilliant to have a track of a fart sound and get it to play really loud in the bathroom when a guest goes for a dump

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found this site

www.in-ceilingspeakers.co.uk

i'm looking at this, as it's effectively 2 speakers in 1. speakercraft DT6 Zero. need to have a listen though.

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great news thanks Matt
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need some 'cover fire'?
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that's it

the supplier couldn't get hold of the DT6 Zero that they quoted me for, so supplied the AIM7 DT instead which is better

still not fitted yet though
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