packman

yea right it not the bike its how you ride it , theres always a smart arse and i think we have just found him !!! lol

packman

Yea the rebuild time on that is not sexy thou !!!! tickin bomb and when it does and it will it = ££££££££££

S1rst

Thats exactly my point mate, dont know the road in question but your obviously riding your bike closer to the limit than the new gixer or rr, and fair play as thats the only way an old kx would be able to stay in front. Like i said, if you have equal riding ability (both riding on or near the limits of the bike) the sportsbike will win 99% of the time of course, i dont think anyones doubting that, so i dont know if the 'smart arse' comment is aimed at me?

StephTell

Packman: we're agreeing so.....?

I really don't see why people find it so hard to believe that a supermoto can keep up with a sportsbike, have these people proper experience in the matter themselves?

Yes a sportsbike is more powerfull and will be better on long straights or long winding corners but a SM will be at an advantage on the short twisty stuff and it's abillity to brake much later and hammer out of corners like you would not believe...


Go and search youtube for examples, I'm sure you'll find some.

In the meanwhile, I'll go and ride rings around sportsbikes, ta very much.

StephTell

http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=Nj52VISJuWw

proper idiot this one! Looks like Malta, makes me realise how much I miss the place...

And one for the non-believers:

http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=Ea873VCY07s

StephTell

And another nice one:

http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=Ej9MkCSg59w

Check out the midcorner wheely at around 3 minutes

Don't forget: this is a 450...a lot less power compared to for example a Husaberg 650

foreigneRS

that wheelie is cool

that narrow, twisty road clearly gives the bike the advantage though, and the subaru is hardly going for it.

StephTell

It's not like the scoob is pootling around though and don't forget it has 4 wd and 4 wheels to put the power down and brake with!

foreigneRS

the scoob is pootling round. there are only a couple of corners there where it is wide enough to really use it.

i'm not saying the supermoto is not fast, i'd love one. but to say that it is faster than a rally car based on that is a joke. get the 2 of them around silverstone for example, and i think it would be a vastly different story. but who cares? it's all good fun

Mike Rainbird

iTrader: (3)

Steph you knob, they drive on the left like the UK in Malta .

I'd like to see someone "backing in" to a corner on a superbike like you can with a Supermoto . There is no way they can carry the same corner speed on a tight twisty road or circuit .

StephTell

LOL I'm not saying that a SM is as fast as a rallycar!

Mike: I said it LOOKS like Malta you cock...I have a staying permit of the island so I think I should know they drive on the wrong side of the road lol

And what is it with these people eh Mike? For some reason they don't understand the different dynamics between SM and SS bikes...I'd like to see you change your line mid-corner on a SS without getting into trouble!

Mike Rainbird

iTrader: (3)

They've obviously never ridden a 'crosser in their life and therefore have SB blinkers on .

I can remember out-braking and riding around the outside of my mate on his RG250 Gamma on my TS125X . The look of shock on his face was a picture . Mind you, he soon fucked off past me on the straight - 21bhp and 87mph flat out is never going to beat 37bhp and 115mph .

StephTell

Exactly! A crosser/SM is also very forgiving when compared to a SS!
Much easier to ride fast when you adapt to the ridingstyle!

foreigneRS

i have never ridden a crosser in my life that will all change next wednesday - got a 3 hour session booked

StephTell

Nice one! Wich one? And crosser or SM?

S1rst

Very true, and thats my point mate, its not actually the bike thats 'faster' or 'quicker' or whatever you want to call it, its how the rider uses the bike to its potential that counts, which is why someone on a supermoto can come out on top sometimes over sportsbikes, as many many sportsbike riders are no where near the limits of the bike on the road, whereas its easier to get a supermoto to its limits. I admit, my gixer 750 doesnt get close to its true potential on the road, as that would just be ridiculous and nigh on impossible on most roads anyway. A supermoto can handle its limits much easier on the road and look good whilst doing it in front of sportsbikes that are using say 50-75% of its potential.

Oh and i know exactly what your talking about mate when you mention the very tight corners with little/no straights, and the characteristics of a supermoto and motorcross bikes as i used to race competitively in motocross for years. Thinking about starting up again actually.

StephTell

Fair enough, we're seeing eye to eye then!

Never was keen on moto-X as the jumps used to freak me out lol
Liked dirtriding a lot though!

foreigneRS

will be a crosser on an off road course. probably only a 125 or 250 though

StephTell

Don't know if you get to choose but if you do:

250 4-stroke is much easier to ride than 125 2-stroke

but a 250 2-stroke is much more fun than a 250 4-stroke lol

Enjoy!

foreigneRS

will obviously try and get the baddest bugger we can just hope i don't fall off and rebreak my collarbone that i broke 7 weeks ago

philram

iTrader: (3)

the closest i could find.. toni up the inside of 2 world champs



and no supermoto thread is complete with out a xaus pic..

S1rst

Never knew xaus used to do supermoto. Awesome pic that!

S1rst

Some awesome powerslides here.......takes some big balls and plenty of skill to do these on a sports/super/gp bike.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbuqt1Zq-ds

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6bXq...eature=related

foreigneRS

that's the launch of the ducati

the original

I expect that's why all the uk circuit lap records are held by supermotos.

S1rst

the original

Ok, now I bought a supermoto, they are faster after all (on the lanes)