looks good to me and not a bad price

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Innovate-Motor...d=p3286.c0.m14

 

good stuff...i have one

 

matt check the innovate forum out and see the ever getting longer list of faults

 

I see, any others about for the same sort of cash


Jay did you get the pic?

 

trigger-wheels.co.uk
I just bought a TECH EDGE 2J1 from these, Ł136.99 all in with controller lambda etc.
I was very impressed by the tech edge site as well, so helpful, trigger wheels are the uk importers for Tech Edge, they use proper widebands such as BOSCH LSU 4.2 etc, not a micky mouse one like LSM11 which is not a proper wideband, but used on some Autronic and Motech.
tabetha

 

This one
http://trigger-wheels.com/store/index1.html

 

Yes, also on egay.
tabetha

 

The TechEdge one is a bit old skool now, it's the result of several years of trial-and-error to get the product working right. The new stuff thats out on the market now is much simpler/elegant, which appeals more to me. For that reason, I recommend the PLX stuff (www.plxdevices.com), which doesn't require calibration (like the proper widebands you'd find on engine dynos etc).

 

What a brilliant system!

 

That wideband kit looks good!

 

those plx displays look superb, especially the realtime plot

 

I used to have an original tech edge one about 6 years ago, was a very good bit of kit but the sensors were prohibitvely expensive so ive swapped over to using innovate gear now instead.

 

If you seem them in real life they look a bit cheap and gimmicky IMHO, and the "needle" isnt easy to read while its moving about, but its not a bad idea anyway.

We've been looking at these type of displays for a product im helping a friend of mine develop, the actual screens themselves can be had for about a tenner a pop, its amazing how cheap this technology now is, so im sure it will become very common to see soon.

Personally if its something important id sooner have a no nonsense physical needle.

 

I was referring to the PLX wideband controller inparticular, the gauges are down to personal preference

 

i thought that might be the case

 

From the Tech Edge site these days....

we advise you to perform an auto-cal operation when you receive your new unit and sensor. Calibration is the process of making the unit read as accurately as possible. 3A/3E is shipped pre-calibration to a real sensor but different sensor families exist and this requires a re-calibration with the actual sensor you have.
Bosch sensors have a neat inbuilt calibration resistor that our units work with (see image at right). Once a sensor is calibrated, very good accuracy is maintained when another sensor of the same type is substituted. The major reason for having a calibration function is to initially calibrate the unit to a sensor, and then to account for any aging of the sensor (or control unit) that affects its calibration. Calibration need not be carried out regularly (as some other manufacturers suggest).

 

Matt, there's nothing wrong with innovate stuff, mines been faultless!!!

Just don't get Jay to fit it!!!! As he obviously has problems!!!

The PLX one looks cool too, just been on their site and instantly added a $1000 worth of stuff to the wish list!!!!

 

ive had 2 Innovate LS1s go faulty on me (analog outputs die) and had to be replaced under warranty. aparently there's no protection on the analog circuits and if they ever touch earth it'll blow the DAC chip

heard LOADS of people with the sme problems too.

however ignoring that design fault, it's pretty good. as accurate as you need it, cheap, and looks good. features are pretty good also with datalogging, digital out, analog outs etc. etc.

if you do go for one i'd advise going for a reputable reseller who you know you'll have no problems with returning the unit if it does go faulty, as otherwise youve got to deal with Innovate in the states direct

 

I've tried the Innovate LC-1, NGK AFX, PLX SM-AFR, Zeitronix and the TechEdge (older, original one).. They were all reliable (but yes the LC-1 isn't very robust as per Jim's comments).. my current favourite is the PLX!

 

Tech edge doesn't need calibration, as such, as everything zeroed, but doing so every six months or so ensures continued accuracy, the connector block resistor is burnt with a laser to change it's resistance to match.
Must say I am well impressed by build quality, and they can be reflashed if necessary, my mapper prefers tech edge so I have gone with that.
tabetha

 

so what one should i go for

 

one that works

 

thanks

 

well matt i will only have kev and rick babbling on about how they have never had a issue and that there the best thing since sliced bread but the innovate arnt the reliable bit of kit thats raved about if tech edge use a bosch sensor then thats a cheap option but aem are good