FAO: Escort RS Turbo Top Speed crew (Christian, etc.)
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So the 'top speed record' for escort rs turbos.. is this only valid if the engine is a 1.6 CVH? What about a 1.6 Zetec? ![Grin](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif)
I'm tempted to have a go, if a 16v engine of equal displacement is acceptable, but I certainly wouldn't want to throw a lot of money at a project for it to be discounted
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I'm tempted to have a go, if a 16v engine of equal displacement is acceptable, but I certainly wouldn't want to throw a lot of money at a project for it to be discounted
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It just needs to be an Escort as far as I can tell. It just so happens the fastest ones are CVH powered!
IIRC Ollie had a 1.9 CVH for a while....
IIRC Ollie had a 1.9 CVH for a while....
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Hmm that's a shame. There isn't really a 'rule' as such though is there, the current and most recent erst top speed holder exceeds 1.6L displacement doesn't he?
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there's nothing official, not like it's in the guiness book of records, so it doesnt really matter to anyone other than your peers IMHO
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BTW, tuning a 1600 zetec to the power levels required for a decent top speed are ridiculous. Turbo'd or not. The 1600 zetec is practically and untunable engine.....
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it wouldn't seem fair to compare a 16v to an 8v, even if they are the same displacement. you know as well as anybody that the extra flow capability of the extra valves gives an advantage, so you might as well be using a 1700 cvh or whatever.
are you thinking of doing something short stroke for high rpm power using the large bore to get a big valve area?
either way, it's always good to see others go for top speed runs and what they can achieve
are you thinking of doing something short stroke for high rpm power using the large bore to get a big valve area?
either way, it's always good to see others go for top speed runs and what they can achieve
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foreigneRS- for a few years i've contemplated building a de-stroked 1800cc zetec, to run relatively low boost but high rpm (say 9k).. sorting the crank/rods/pistons is the easy part - the head is the tricky area!!
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As far as I can tell, then engine just has to be in an Escort....
I mean, still needs to be a Ford engine of course, but doesn't say anywhere it has to be a CVH or it doesn't count......
I mean, still needs to be a Ford engine of course, but doesn't say anywhere it has to be a CVH or it doesn't count......
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I think the record for fwd escorts and escort rs turbos are two different things.
Its the CVH Turbo that makes the car the RS..... take away the turbo cvh which was only available in that model and its an Escort Turbo
its like asking why are we not counting YB engined escorts as its never been clarified that you have to drive the front wheels
Its the CVH Turbo that makes the car the RS..... take away the turbo cvh which was only available in that model and its an Escort Turbo
its like asking why are we not counting YB engined escorts as its never been clarified that you have to drive the front wheels
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Think most of us christian ollie me etc all had 1.6 last time ollies block was 1 of mine which he has now kept lol ,
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Tony we thought of the yb but the cvh just seems to be getting faster and faster lol.
I recon 160 plus takes some doin in an escort whatever mota u have let alone 170 plus lol ,dont seem to be many done it imo.
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Tony we thought of the yb but the cvh just seems to be getting faster and faster lol.
I recon 160 plus takes some doin in an escort whatever mota u have let alone 170 plus lol ,dont seem to be many done it imo.
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I think the record for fwd escorts and escort rs turbos are two different things.
Its the CVH Turbo that makes the car the RS..... take away the turbo cvh which was only available in that model and its an Escort Turbo
its like asking why are we not counting YB engined escorts as its never been clarified that you have to drive the front wheels
Its the CVH Turbo that makes the car the RS..... take away the turbo cvh which was only available in that model and its an Escort Turbo
its like asking why are we not counting YB engined escorts as its never been clarified that you have to drive the front wheels
agreed - Think people have a lot of respect for getting the best from the engine which came in the car
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Some interesting comments, keep 'em coming ![Grin](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif)
With regards to the YB argument, yeah I guess that's fair. I suppose it depends on what you're trying to beat - the only ERST top speed records on PF, as far as i'm aware, are based on 1.6 CVH's. Would attempting the same thing but with a 16v engine suddenly put it into an 'anything goes' category? It's a tricky one - I don't want to build something that someone will come along with a 800hp v8 in and trash it 6 months later![Surprised](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/bigcry.gif)
I suppose a fair question would be to the current top speed holder and the previous one; would you happily admit 'defeat' if a 1.6 16v erst beat you or would you claim it's not a fair competition?
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With regards to the YB argument, yeah I guess that's fair. I suppose it depends on what you're trying to beat - the only ERST top speed records on PF, as far as i'm aware, are based on 1.6 CVH's. Would attempting the same thing but with a 16v engine suddenly put it into an 'anything goes' category? It's a tricky one - I don't want to build something that someone will come along with a 800hp v8 in and trash it 6 months later
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I suppose a fair question would be to the current top speed holder and the previous one; would you happily admit 'defeat' if a 1.6 16v erst beat you or would you claim it's not a fair competition?
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Well sure, but there are limits. I don't think anyone has gotten over 350bhp with a CVH head as there simply isn't enough material in the head to port it enough, so that's kinda a dead stop. Is it worth spending a lot of money building a fine-line CVH at 350bhp in the chance that it may just pip the specific record, or perhaps try something different that is equally as-cool?
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For me the attraction is doing it with the proper engine. Mine actually has the block the it rolled out of the factory with and the original crank that is to this day unmachined.
As others have said, as soon as you take away the originality aspect, you might aswell fit a totally different engine. Why not put an Evo lump in there??
Whatever the case, in my mind, my competition is only 1600cc CVH's within their normal accepted terms (so obviously the minor overbores are not significant.
Thats my take on it anyway.
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For me the attraction is doing it with the proper engine. Mine actually has the block the it rolled out of the factory with and the original crank that is to this day unmachined.
As others have said, as soon as you take away the originality aspect, you might aswell fit a totally different engine. Why not put an Evo lump in there??
Whatever the case, in my mind, my competition is only 1600cc CVH's within their normal accepted terms (so obviously the minor overbores are not significant.
Thats my take on it anyway.
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Think most of us christian ollie me etc all had 1.6 last time ollies block was 1 of mine which he has now kept lol ,
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Tony we thought of the yb but the cvh just seems to be getting faster and faster lol.
I recon 160 plus takes some doin in an escort whatever mota u have let alone 170 plus lol ,dont seem to be many done it imo.
tim
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Tony we thought of the yb but the cvh just seems to be getting faster and faster lol.
I recon 160 plus takes some doin in an escort whatever mota u have let alone 170 plus lol ,dont seem to be many done it imo.
tim
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