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Old 25-06-2008, 07:17 PM
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Thrush, you are totally missng the fucking point Mostly as you have no idea what your talking about

For a start nobody describes Blazin Squad as Urban as they POP MUSIC not Urban

And the people you describe are black, as they famous ones you have heard of, but thats not what makes their songs urban you cabbage

Urban is DnB, Bassline/Garage, Dubstep, HipHop, etc, the music the majority of inner city yoof like. Hence the name.

A lot of the acts are black, the majority really,esp as SOME of the styles are of black origin.

But not a single type of Urban music is all black, and by my mind youd prob find DnB and Dubstep to be mostly white...

Skream, about the biggest name in Dubstep. White.
Skinnyman, big name in Uk HipHop. White.
Shabba D, big DnB MC. White.

And thats just a quick think of ones beginning with S

Fuck, I know its dead, but if Happy Hardcore was still big that would DEFFO be classed as urban, and thats almost 100% chav-spec white.

So to sum up, Urban only means black to someone who has no fucking clue what urban music is.

Same as Rock to me is a load of smelly hairy unwashed reject greebos, tho id put money im massivley wrong, but I know fuck all about it, and wouldnt start a thread asking why does "rock" mean "smelly white man with a guitar"

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Old 25-06-2008, 07:33 PM
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since when were poor areas mainly inhabited by blacks? i dont know what its like nowadays down south but up here theres more poor whites than any other shade.
Old 25-06-2008, 07:36 PM
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What abut 1 extra radio station on the bbc, the 'home of black music'...........I havent tuned in as i'm white & feel liike its kind of a reverse racism going on.

IMAGINE the shite that would come if we called some country music station the home of white music...
Old 25-06-2008, 07:40 PM
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but some of that black music is by whites . its meant more as a discription of the styles rather than the colour of who actually sings it.
Old 25-06-2008, 07:44 PM
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Old 25-06-2008, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by fuzzy
since when were poor areas mainly inhabited by blacks? i dont know what its like nowadays down south but up here theres more poor whites than any other shade.
Applies to the majority of large cities in England I would reckon, especially throughout the 70s and 80s.

Relevant because most "urban" music of black origin comes from mainly London, and Birmingham. Only recently has it branched out further.

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Originally Posted by fuzzy
but some of that black music is by whites . its meant more as a discription of the styles rather than the colour of who actually sings it.
All I know is that everytime I find that station I listen to a good song then it spouts about home of black music and I switch over..... and I am 100% not racist.
Old 25-06-2008, 08:11 PM
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You always hear alot about things deticated to black music and black people etc etc

MOBO's for example...if there was a Music of white origin awards would it not be classed as racisit? so why not other way around?

Another thing I saw was on the news earlier where a asian officer of the MET has filed a complaint with the "Black policemans group" that he has been passed up on promotion due to his colour blah blah blah.

Is there a "White policemans group"?

Discuss.
Old 25-06-2008, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by SillyFezzaMk1
All I know is that everytime I find that station I listen to a good song then it spouts about home of black music and I switch over..... and I am 100% not racist.
if the mention of the word black disgusts you enough to turn over then i think that 100% figure is slighly optimistic
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Originally Posted by rapidcossie
You always hear alot about things deticated to black music and black people etc etc

MOBO's for example...if there was a Music of white origin awards would it not be classed as racisit? so why not other way around?

Another thing I saw was on the news earlier where a asian officer of the MET has filed a complaint with the "Black policemans group" that he has been passed up on promotion due to his colour blah blah blah.

Is there a "White policemans group"?

Discuss.
of course not because everyone knows racism only works one way.
Old 25-06-2008, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by rapidcossie
You always hear alot about things deticated to black music and black people etc etc

MOBO's for example...if there was a Music of white origin awards would it not be classed as racisit? so why not other way around?

Another thing I saw was on the news earlier where a asian officer of the MET has filed a complaint with the "Black policemans group" that he has been passed up on promotion due to his colour blah blah blah.

Is there a "White policemans group"?

Discuss.
Because it's about representation of a repressed minority.

This is pretty basic stuff!
Old 25-06-2008, 08:20 PM
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but is anyone really repressed these days by colour? isnt there many more cases of "positive discrimination" these days ?
Old 25-06-2008, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by RichardPON
Because it's about representation of a repressed minority.

This is pretty basic stuff!
Thought it was about giving everyone equal rights?

If a black policeman has a group to support and stand up for him and a white policeman doesnt that doesnt sound like equality to me?
Old 25-06-2008, 08:26 PM
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there no discrimination towards white people just because they white tho, not fucking difficualt to understand is it?

and WHY the fuck does every fucking thread thats remotley mentions people of a different colour or race to UK people get turned in to a fucking race thing by the same old folk with the same old silly agruments?

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Old 25-06-2008, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Stavros
there no discrimination towards white people just because they white tho, not fucking difficualt to understand is it?

and WHY the fuck does every fucking thread thats remotley mentions people of a different colour or race to UK people get turned in to a fucking race thing by the same old folk with the same old silly agruments?
surely in a cases of positive discrimination to make quotas then that is discriminating against the white person because they werent considered due to being the 'wrong' colour' in the first place?
if people keep mentioning race issues then thats obviously what people want to talk about.
Old 25-06-2008, 08:37 PM
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You think a lot of white people dont get jobs as the companies has to recruit some more black/asian people?

More than the other way round because of whatever reason?

What about all the other, much more common, forms of discrimination?

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Old 25-06-2008, 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by fuzzy
if the mention of the word black disgusts you enough to turn over then i think that 100% figure is slighly optimistic
Dont be silly, my missus is Indian, i've got mates who are black, some chinese, indian, pakistani etc..
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Originally Posted by Stavros
You think a lot of white people dont get jobs as the companies has to recruit some more black/asian people?

More than the other way round because of whatever reason?

What about all the other, much more common, forms of discrimination?
im not denying any forms of racism against others . you that said whites are not discriminated against because of their colour. everyones heard the stories reported about positive discimination in places like the police force or the fire service etc to make up the numbers to be seen to be being diverse and equal oppertunities employers?
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Originally Posted by SillyFezzaMk1
Dont be silly, my missus is Indian, i've got mates who are black, some chinese, indian, pakistani etc..
why turn over your radio at the mention of the word black then?
Old 25-06-2008, 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Stavros
there no discrimination towards white people just because they white tho, not fucking difficualt to understand is it?

and WHY the fuck does every fucking thread thats remotley mentions people of a different colour or race to UK people get turned in to a fucking race thing by the same old folk with the same old silly agruments?
Balance?
Old 26-06-2008, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Chip
Rich, you are slightly misinterpreting what "thrush" is.

Thrush is something that irritates cocks and cunts.

And seems to be irritating you too, so which are you?

Thrush also means an irritating/irritated cunt Chippa. Exactly what the human version of thrush on here is
Old 26-06-2008, 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by CossieRich
Thrush also means an irritating/irritated cunt Chippa. Exactly what the human version of thrush on here is
No, the thrush refers to the thing irritating the cunt, the cunt is still called a cunt.
Old 26-06-2008, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by CossieRich
Thrush also means an irritating/irritated cunt Chippa. Exactly what the human version of thrush on here is
Have you ever met the "human version" of myself? No? Then you have no basis for judgement, sorry. This is the internet pal - lighten up
Old 26-06-2008, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Thrush
Have you ever met the "human version" of myself? No? Then you have no basis for judgement, sorry. This is the internet pal - lighten up
So you loads different on the net?

Why?
Old 26-06-2008, 11:54 AM
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Well everyone else claims to be Steve, so I thought I would aswell.....
Old 26-06-2008, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Paddy
Why? Have you only just started learning the English language?

Here's 2 new words for you to look up which may help explain it: 1. Slang 2. Derivation.

Together we can raise the lowest common denominator.
Exactly what I was going to say, only less intellectually, and probably ruder.

It's just a fucking word that has been given a different definition, its not fucking difficult!

Take a look here, it will blow your delicate mind http://www.urbandictionary.com
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If it's "just a fucking word that has been given a different definition" then a) why is it causing a two page thread, and b) isn't that what I said? Yet everyone starts off to dissagree, yet slowly slowly are actually saying the definition HAS changed, which is what I said in the first place?

And UrbanDictionary? Are you fucking kidding me? That shit is more bollocks than whats on Wikipedia It's hardly Collins or Oxford now is it
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Originally Posted by Thrush
Well everyone else claims to be Steve, so I thought I would aswell.....
Why would you claim to be if your not?
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THe point is not "why" steve, the point is "why not"...

Actually no, the point is, CossieRich seems to think he knows me, yet has never met me, so I simply stated that he cannot pass judgement as he has never met me... In the same way I can't pass judgement on anyone else as people as this is the internet

In a way tho, I must admit he is a little bit right... I am just as argumentative off the boards as I am on them Some might say irritating... I personally say "so fucking what, deal with it or fuck off"
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I personally say, try not to talk about something you know nothing about and are completely wrong about, ie this thread
Old 26-06-2008, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Thrush
THe point is not "why" steve, the point is "why not"...

Actually no, the point is, CossieRich seems to think he knows me, yet has never met me, so I simply stated that he cannot pass judgement as he has never met me... In the same way I can't pass judgement on anyone else as people as this is the internet

In a way tho, I must admit he is a little bit right... I am just as argumentative off the boards as I am on them Some might say irritating... I personally say "so fucking what, deal with it or fuck off"
I was mearly saying that your username reflects you on here.
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NO you didn't, you said "human version", not "internet persona"
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Originally Posted by Thrush
If it's "just a fucking word that has been given a different definition" then a) why is it causing a two page thread, and b) isn't that what I said? Yet everyone starts off to dissagree, yet slowly slowly are actually saying the definition HAS changed, which is what I said in the first place?

And UrbanDictionary? Are you fucking kidding me? That shit is more bollocks than whats on Wikipedia It's hardly Collins or Oxford now is it
is it because people might think it's black, and therefore not give it the relevance it deserves?









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WTF does Guitar Hero have to do with it? I've not even got that game!
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Originally Posted by Thrush
WTF does Guitar Hero have to do with it? I've not even got that game!
stavros' greebo smelling tattoo'd heathen guitar smashing view of "rock" music types

you've got a guitar haven't you?
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The new "IQ" small car from toyota is specifically marketted as "urban" and in all the press shots is white
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