Why does "urban" mean "black"?
#41
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Thrush, you are totally missng the fucking point Mostly as you have no idea what your talking about
For a start nobody describes Blazin Squad as Urban as they POP MUSIC not Urban
And the people you describe are black, as they famous ones you have heard of, but thats not what makes their songs urban you cabbage
Urban is DnB, Bassline/Garage, Dubstep, HipHop, etc, the music the majority of inner city yoof like. Hence the name.
A lot of the acts are black, the majority really,esp as SOME of the styles are of black origin.
But not a single type of Urban music is all black, and by my mind youd prob find DnB and Dubstep to be mostly white...
Skream, about the biggest name in Dubstep. White.
Skinnyman, big name in Uk HipHop. White.
Shabba D, big DnB MC. White.
And thats just a quick think of ones beginning with S
Fuck, I know its dead, but if Happy Hardcore was still big that would DEFFO be classed as urban, and thats almost 100% chav-spec white.
So to sum up, Urban only means black to someone who has no fucking clue what urban music is.
Same as Rock to me is a load of smelly hairy unwashed reject greebos, tho id put money im massivley wrong, but I know fuck all about it, and wouldnt start a thread asking why does "rock" mean "smelly white man with a guitar"
For a start nobody describes Blazin Squad as Urban as they POP MUSIC not Urban
And the people you describe are black, as they famous ones you have heard of, but thats not what makes their songs urban you cabbage
Urban is DnB, Bassline/Garage, Dubstep, HipHop, etc, the music the majority of inner city yoof like. Hence the name.
A lot of the acts are black, the majority really,esp as SOME of the styles are of black origin.
But not a single type of Urban music is all black, and by my mind youd prob find DnB and Dubstep to be mostly white...
Skream, about the biggest name in Dubstep. White.
Skinnyman, big name in Uk HipHop. White.
Shabba D, big DnB MC. White.
And thats just a quick think of ones beginning with S
Fuck, I know its dead, but if Happy Hardcore was still big that would DEFFO be classed as urban, and thats almost 100% chav-spec white.
So to sum up, Urban only means black to someone who has no fucking clue what urban music is.
Same as Rock to me is a load of smelly hairy unwashed reject greebos, tho id put money im massivley wrong, but I know fuck all about it, and wouldnt start a thread asking why does "rock" mean "smelly white man with a guitar"
Last edited by Stavros; 25-06-2008 at 07:18 PM.
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since when were poor areas mainly inhabited by blacks? i dont know what its like nowadays down south but up here theres more poor whites than any other shade.
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What abut 1 extra radio station on the bbc, the 'home of black music'...........I havent tuned in as i'm white & feel liike its kind of a reverse racism going on.
IMAGINE the shite that would come if we called some country music station the home of white music...
IMAGINE the shite that would come if we called some country music station the home of white music...
#45
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but some of that black music is by whites . its meant more as a discription of the styles rather than the colour of who actually sings it.
#47
Relevant because most "urban" music of black origin comes from mainly London, and Birmingham. Only recently has it branched out further.
Thrush - Nothing I need to say really? You've made yourself look a complete plum without my usual input.
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You always hear alot about things deticated to black music and black people etc etc
MOBO's for example...if there was a Music of white origin awards would it not be classed as racisit? so why not other way around?
Another thing I saw was on the news earlier where a asian officer of the MET has filed a complaint with the "Black policemans group" that he has been passed up on promotion due to his colour blah blah blah.
Is there a "White policemans group"?
Discuss.
MOBO's for example...if there was a Music of white origin awards would it not be classed as racisit? so why not other way around?
Another thing I saw was on the news earlier where a asian officer of the MET has filed a complaint with the "Black policemans group" that he has been passed up on promotion due to his colour blah blah blah.
Is there a "White policemans group"?
Discuss.
#50
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if the mention of the word black disgusts you enough to turn over then i think that 100% figure is slighly optimistic
#51
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You always hear alot about things deticated to black music and black people etc etc
MOBO's for example...if there was a Music of white origin awards would it not be classed as racisit? so why not other way around?
Another thing I saw was on the news earlier where a asian officer of the MET has filed a complaint with the "Black policemans group" that he has been passed up on promotion due to his colour blah blah blah.
Is there a "White policemans group"?
Discuss.
MOBO's for example...if there was a Music of white origin awards would it not be classed as racisit? so why not other way around?
Another thing I saw was on the news earlier where a asian officer of the MET has filed a complaint with the "Black policemans group" that he has been passed up on promotion due to his colour blah blah blah.
Is there a "White policemans group"?
Discuss.
#52
You always hear alot about things deticated to black music and black people etc etc
MOBO's for example...if there was a Music of white origin awards would it not be classed as racisit? so why not other way around?
Another thing I saw was on the news earlier where a asian officer of the MET has filed a complaint with the "Black policemans group" that he has been passed up on promotion due to his colour blah blah blah.
Is there a "White policemans group"?
Discuss.
MOBO's for example...if there was a Music of white origin awards would it not be classed as racisit? so why not other way around?
Another thing I saw was on the news earlier where a asian officer of the MET has filed a complaint with the "Black policemans group" that he has been passed up on promotion due to his colour blah blah blah.
Is there a "White policemans group"?
Discuss.
This is pretty basic stuff!
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If a black policeman has a group to support and stand up for him and a white policeman doesnt that doesnt sound like equality to me?
#55
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there no discrimination towards white people just because they white tho, not fucking difficualt to understand is it?
and WHY the fuck does every fucking thread thats remotley mentions people of a different colour or race to UK people get turned in to a fucking race thing by the same old folk with the same old silly agruments?
and WHY the fuck does every fucking thread thats remotley mentions people of a different colour or race to UK people get turned in to a fucking race thing by the same old folk with the same old silly agruments?
Last edited by Stavros; 25-06-2008 at 08:27 PM.
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there no discrimination towards white people just because they white tho, not fucking difficualt to understand is it?
and WHY the fuck does every fucking thread thats remotley mentions people of a different colour or race to UK people get turned in to a fucking race thing by the same old folk with the same old silly agruments?
and WHY the fuck does every fucking thread thats remotley mentions people of a different colour or race to UK people get turned in to a fucking race thing by the same old folk with the same old silly agruments?
if people keep mentioning race issues then thats obviously what people want to talk about.
#57
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You think a lot of white people dont get jobs as the companies has to recruit some more black/asian people?
More than the other way round because of whatever reason?
What about all the other, much more common, forms of discrimination?
More than the other way round because of whatever reason?
What about all the other, much more common, forms of discrimination?
Last edited by Stavros; 25-06-2008 at 08:38 PM.
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im not denying any forms of racism against others . you that said whites are not discriminated against because of their colour. everyones heard the stories reported about positive discimination in places like the police force or the fire service etc to make up the numbers to be seen to be being diverse and equal oppertunities employers?
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there no discrimination towards white people just because they white tho, not fucking difficualt to understand is it?
and WHY the fuck does every fucking thread thats remotley mentions people of a different colour or race to UK people get turned in to a fucking race thing by the same old folk with the same old silly agruments?
and WHY the fuck does every fucking thread thats remotley mentions people of a different colour or race to UK people get turned in to a fucking race thing by the same old folk with the same old silly agruments?
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It's just a fucking word that has been given a different definition, its not fucking difficult!
Take a look here, it will blow your delicate mind http://www.urbandictionary.com
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If it's "just a fucking word that has been given a different definition" then a) why is it causing a two page thread, and b) isn't that what I said? Yet everyone starts off to dissagree, yet slowly slowly are actually saying the definition HAS changed, which is what I said in the first place?
And UrbanDictionary? Are you fucking kidding me? That shit is more bollocks than whats on Wikipedia It's hardly Collins or Oxford now is it
And UrbanDictionary? Are you fucking kidding me? That shit is more bollocks than whats on Wikipedia It's hardly Collins or Oxford now is it
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THe point is not "why" steve, the point is "why not"...
Actually no, the point is, CossieRich seems to think he knows me, yet has never met me, so I simply stated that he cannot pass judgement as he has never met me... In the same way I can't pass judgement on anyone else as people as this is the internet
In a way tho, I must admit he is a little bit right... I am just as argumentative off the boards as I am on them Some might say irritating... I personally say "so fucking what, deal with it or fuck off"
Actually no, the point is, CossieRich seems to think he knows me, yet has never met me, so I simply stated that he cannot pass judgement as he has never met me... In the same way I can't pass judgement on anyone else as people as this is the internet
In a way tho, I must admit he is a little bit right... I am just as argumentative off the boards as I am on them Some might say irritating... I personally say "so fucking what, deal with it or fuck off"
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"Allowing positive discrimination would help organisations such as the police better reflect the communities they serve by recruiting more female and ethnic minority officers, said Ms Harman."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7474801.stm
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THe point is not "why" steve, the point is "why not"...
Actually no, the point is, CossieRich seems to think he knows me, yet has never met me, so I simply stated that he cannot pass judgement as he has never met me... In the same way I can't pass judgement on anyone else as people as this is the internet
In a way tho, I must admit he is a little bit right... I am just as argumentative off the boards as I am on them Some might say irritating... I personally say "so fucking what, deal with it or fuck off"
Actually no, the point is, CossieRich seems to think he knows me, yet has never met me, so I simply stated that he cannot pass judgement as he has never met me... In the same way I can't pass judgement on anyone else as people as this is the internet
In a way tho, I must admit he is a little bit right... I am just as argumentative off the boards as I am on them Some might say irritating... I personally say "so fucking what, deal with it or fuck off"
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If it's "just a fucking word that has been given a different definition" then a) why is it causing a two page thread, and b) isn't that what I said? Yet everyone starts off to dissagree, yet slowly slowly are actually saying the definition HAS changed, which is what I said in the first place?
And UrbanDictionary? Are you fucking kidding me? That shit is more bollocks than whats on Wikipedia It's hardly Collins or Oxford now is it
And UrbanDictionary? Are you fucking kidding me? That shit is more bollocks than whats on Wikipedia It's hardly Collins or Oxford now is it
you know i'm only kidding right don't want you to go all crazy guitar hero on me now