I'm devastated clarkson prooves an m3 is more economical than my beloved prius
23-06-2008, 08:39 AM
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I'm so glad he did that. I already get shed loads of stick at work. I went to our Slough office the other day in the csl and someone else pulled up behind me in a Prius.
I had to chuckle as I'm the company Energy Manager
I had to chuckle as I'm the company Energy Manager
23-06-2008, 08:44 AM
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Blimey, I've never heard from anyone who actually owns a prius before!
I thought they were bought as token good will gestures by celebrities wanting to do their bit.
The one in 'Reaper' always looks quite good. Shame they so bloody expensive.
I thought they were bought as token good will gestures by celebrities wanting to do their bit.
The one in 'Reaper' always looks quite good. Shame they so bloody expensive.
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23-06-2008, 08:49 AM
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I think any brand new model of car is not enviromentally friendly,
I prius new starts at 17k mine was used ,I only bought it for the cheap road tax as a run around car,and to save mileage on my evo fq,it was a waste to commute in my evo
I prius new starts at 17k mine was used ,I only bought it for the cheap road tax as a run around car,and to save mileage on my evo fq,it was a waste to commute in my evo
23-06-2008, 08:59 AM
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23-06-2008, 09:16 AM
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Does nobody elese realise it was a completely pointless test? The Prius was being driven on it's limits - flat out, and the Beemer was poodling round the track not even breaking a sweat! So naturally the Prius mpg was gonna be shit - all cars mpg is shit when you drive with the pedal on the floor!
Wonder what would have happend if you drove a Prius round the track with the pedal buried in the floor and then drove an M3 round the track with it's pedal buried in the floor, hmm?
Wonder what would have happend if you drove a Prius round the track with the pedal buried in the floor and then drove an M3 round the track with it's pedal buried in the floor, hmm?
23-06-2008, 09:22 AM
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Does nobody elese realise it was a completely pointless test? The Prius was being driven on it's limits - flat out, and the Beemer was poodling round the track not even breaking a sweat! So naturally the Prius mpg was gonna be shit - all cars mpg is shit when you drive with the pedal on the floor!
Wonder what would have happend if you drove a Prius round the track with the pedal buried in the floor and then drove an M3 round the track with it's pedal buried in the floor, hmm?
Wonder what would have happend if you drove a Prius round the track with the pedal buried in the floor and then drove an M3 round the track with it's pedal buried in the floor, hmm?
As a city car it's a better option but it's a case of people not understanding the details and jumping on a bandwagon. You can't blame them though as Tony has shown he saves on the Tax.
The total cost to the environment bit is absolutely right though.
23-06-2008, 09:23 AM
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Shitty pointless top gear as usual.
Cars are normally and bought driven a certain way, ie small diesel cars generally bought by geriatrics who poodle everywhere, and no doubt get 60mpg +, no one buys a "M" to go slow the same as a cossie.
I get this all the time, my yank friend has a prious and he keeps telling me your car would be much cheaper to run if you changed it or slowed down.
I say WTF, why do you think a I bought a cossie to do 30mph everywhere like you!!
I've put over Ł100 a week in the cossie, rarely I must admit, but am happy with the running costs as I must accept them for the sort of car it is.
I would rather do 100miles in the cossie than 500 in the prious anyday, but my bus pass also comes in handy!!
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Cars are normally and bought driven a certain way, ie small diesel cars generally bought by geriatrics who poodle everywhere, and no doubt get 60mpg +, no one buys a "M" to go slow the same as a cossie.
I get this all the time, my yank friend has a prious and he keeps telling me your car would be much cheaper to run if you changed it or slowed down.
I say WTF, why do you think a I bought a cossie to do 30mph everywhere like you!!
I've put over Ł100 a week in the cossie, rarely I must admit, but am happy with the running costs as I must accept them for the sort of car it is.
I would rather do 100miles in the cossie than 500 in the prious anyday, but my bus pass also comes in handy!!
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23-06-2008, 09:26 AM
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Does nobody elese realise it was a completely pointless test? The Prius was being driven on it's limits - flat out, and the Beemer was poodling round the track not even breaking a sweat! So naturally the Prius mpg was gonna be shit - all cars mpg is shit when you drive with the pedal on the floor!
Wonder what would have happend if you drove a Prius round the track with the pedal buried in the floor and then drove an M3 round the track with it's pedal buried in the floor, hmm?
Wonder what would have happend if you drove a Prius round the track with the pedal buried in the floor and then drove an M3 round the track with it's pedal buried in the floor, hmm?
23-06-2008, 09:35 AM
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I thought the Beemer had an advantage anyway as the Prius was having to deal with the aerodynamic restrictions while the beemer was in its areo slipstream
Same effect as sitting behind a truck on the motorway for greater fuel consumption, its not realistic
Same effect as sitting behind a truck on the motorway for greater fuel consumption, its not realistic
23-06-2008, 11:36 AM
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That was the exact point he was making though; it's not the car it's how you drive. How many Prius's do you see legging it up an down the motorway putting in a worse MPG figure than a decent diesel? I've seen loads.
As a city car it's a better option but it's a case of people not understanding the details and jumping on a bandwagon. You can't blame them though as Tony has shown he saves on the Tax.
The total cost to the environment bit is absolutely right though.
As a city car it's a better option but it's a case of people not understanding the details and jumping on a bandwagon. You can't blame them though as Tony has shown he saves on the Tax.
The total cost to the environment bit is absolutely right though.
as a piece of technology to show a step forward then they have a place.
the word that you are looking for is 'pootle'
http://www.wordwebonline.com/en/POOTLE
23-06-2008, 12:02 PM
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i mean that getting 55 - 58 mpg on a commute is not very good, not that you're talking rubbish 
i'm sure that you could get better with a small diesel.
if you are only interested in your wallet, does that mean that you bought the poo-us for the combination of low running costs through the MPG and tax? if so, would you not be better off with a small diesel or samll car with small petrol engine and LPG conversion? obviously depends on your annual mileage, cost of petrol vs diesel, depreciation etc
i'm sure that you could get better with a small diesel.if you are only interested in your wallet, does that mean that you bought the poo-us for the combination of low running costs through the MPG and tax? if so, would you not be better off with a small diesel or samll car with small petrol engine and LPG conversion? obviously depends on your annual mileage, cost of petrol vs diesel, depreciation etc
23-06-2008, 12:07 PM
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i mean that getting 55 - 58 mpg on a commute is not very good, not that you're talking rubbish i'm sure that you could get better with a small diesel.
if you are only interested in your wallet, does that mean that you bought the poo-us for the combination of low running costs through the MPG and tax? if so, would you not be better off with a small diesel or samll car with small petrol engine and LPG conversion? obviously depends on your annual mileage, cost of petrol vs diesel, depreciation etc
i'm sure that you could get better with a small diesel.if you are only interested in your wallet, does that mean that you bought the poo-us for the combination of low running costs through the MPG and tax? if so, would you not be better off with a small diesel or samll car with small petrol engine and LPG conversion? obviously depends on your annual mileage, cost of petrol vs diesel, depreciation etc
and is 0 pounds tax next year,i don't mind paying tax when it is used to run the country ,our tax is just wasted on bollox .I just wish to contribute less to golden brown.We are ripped off in this country
23-06-2008, 12:11 PM
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I just worked out that the amount of carbon I saved last year through my job is enough for me to do 6.5million miles in the CSL.
Fuck it, I'm going to sell it and commute in a tank
Fuck it, I'm going to sell it and commute in a tank
23-06-2008, 12:13 PM
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Anthony with the overdrive pulley AMG SL55 Merc who went to the ring with me and JJ is the CTO of a social responsibility company, he said that the Merc is used as an alternative to flying, so is still environmentally friendly.
Lies, damn lies, and statistics
Lies, damn lies, and statistics
23-06-2008, 12:30 PM
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The styling was right first time chip roflol
23-06-2008, 12:48 PM
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modern diesel is more economical but the car is too small, the poous doubles as a van is cvt auto and comes with all the toys and is seriously ugly like chip
and is 0 pounds tax next year,i don't mind paying tax when it is used to run the country ,our tax is just wasted on bollox .I just wish to contribute less to golden brown.We are ripped off in this country
and is 0 pounds tax next year,i don't mind paying tax when it is used to run the country ,our tax is just wasted on bollox .I just wish to contribute less to golden brown.We are ripped off in this country
as a matter of interest, did you also consider the civic hybrid? it's not the same shape as the 5 door european civc as it is based on the 2 door american coupe, but is better looking than the poo-us
http://www.honda.co.uk/car/civic/hybrid/
23-06-2008, 01:32 PM
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my missus has a honda civic diesel which is a similar size as the poo-us, but with a more practical interior/boot as the rear seats fold up as well as down, and she gets 55mpg on her commute of 25 miles each day from just outside bracknell to just outside slough. and we averaged over 60 mpg in it on a 150 mile trip up to norfolk, so the fuel economy is not a whole lot worse (although you have to take into account the additional cost of diesel compared to poo-us petrol). that could probably easily be improved upon if you don't mind some ruining the styling by fitting wheel covers etc and making it as hideous as a poo-us.
as a matter of interest, did you also consider the civic hybrid? it's not the same shape as the 5 door european civc as it is based on the 2 door american coupe, but is better looking than the poo-us
http://www.honda.co.uk/car/civic/hybrid/
as a matter of interest, did you also consider the civic hybrid? it's not the same shape as the 5 door european civc as it is based on the 2 door american coupe, but is better looking than the poo-us
http://www.honda.co.uk/car/civic/hybrid/
my poous has no wheel trims and if you think the wheel trims are ugly you want to see the wheel they are hiding with the trim
23-06-2008, 02:42 PM
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23-06-2008, 06:15 PM
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i always said they were crap lol they are supposed to be green what happens to all the batteries in the boot when they get scrapped or go tits up
btw a new battery for the poous (the one in the back) is over 1k & the last one i seen fail was just out of warranty not to good for the wallet
btw a new battery for the poous (the one in the back) is over 1k & the last one i seen fail was just out of warranty not to good for the wallet
23-06-2008, 09:52 PM
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pruis. shuch a boring car. When you buy a toyota dont you get a pipe a flat cap n glasses in the glove box? Cause 9 times out of 10 there is always a coffing dodger on there last legs driving them.
23-06-2008, 10:57 PM
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