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Old 19-06-2008, 08:33 PM
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thinking of running my 1994 1.7 td astra van on a mix of cooking oil and diesel mix probably 25% cooking oil and 75% diesel to start with to see how it goes . has any one got any advice or tips having done this . do i need to thin the cooking oil with something ? i seem to remember someone saying you need to mix it with a small amount of white sprit or something any other advice would be helpful , i know i will need to declare this for tax purposes many thanks Paul.
Old 19-06-2008, 09:05 PM
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just fill up 50% diesel to 50% cooking oil works a treat in mine....
Old 19-06-2008, 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by smartrs
i know i will need to declare this for tax purposes many thanks Paul.
you talk some shit lol
Old 19-06-2008, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Roosie
you talk some shit lol
no no all above board just want to do my bit for the envroiment
i'm sure some one said mix it with something to make it thinner, i'm gonna use oil stright from the supermarket as i cant seem to find a local supplyer of used stuff yet.
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Originally Posted by smartrs
no no all above board just want to do my bit for the envroiment
i'm sure some one said mix it with something to make it thinner, i'm gonna use oil stright from the supermarket as i cant seem to find a local supplyer of used stuff yet.
FOOK Off you own a cossie, Do your bit for the environment
Old 19-06-2008, 09:20 PM
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ok well i'm trying to off set my carbon foot print thats why the cossie has not run for ages !!
Old 19-06-2008, 09:38 PM
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paul what are you actually waiting for on the cossie??

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Originally Posted by Roosie
paul what are you actually waiting for on the cossie??

Him getting off his FAT arse.
Old 19-06-2008, 09:49 PM
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time and bottom end although i have theparts to do a patch job but not sure i want to go that route
Old 19-06-2008, 10:03 PM
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every car you have u dont do nothing with.

give me another engine shot of my old beast
Old 19-06-2008, 10:05 PM
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time its all to do with time and not having al the know how to take it on my self . i'm know looking for another engine for it
Old 20-06-2008, 03:38 AM
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Run it neat if you want to, I do on my mondeo 1.8TD, tescos Grapeseed oil is 97p a litre, same as veg oil near enough. Just mix it 50/50 if you want to be cautious, in the summer is much better for it as well. Don't need to declare tax either, just keep all your reciepts, as you are allowed 2500 litres a year before you have to start paying extra tax.
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Originally Posted by smartrs
time its all to do with time and not having al the know how to take it on my self . i'm know looking for another engine for it
just thought i will have a engine for sale when mine comes out of my 2wd as im getting my 4wd engine all done and sticking it in my 2wd
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As already said no need to declare an till you have used 2500 litres in one year & whos to know when you have? I run my disco & zx on it, i norm run 75%oil 25% diesel with no problems what so ever...

If you buy in bulk you can norm get it a bit cheaper to

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does anybody think a 1998 volvo 2.5 tdi would run on veg oil or a mix with diesel without any mods,cheers
Old 21-06-2008, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by james kiely
does anybody think a 1998 volvo 2.5 tdi would run on veg oil or a mix with diesel without any mods,cheers
is it a high pressure of low pressure set up? High pressure is not a good idea on chip fat apparently
Old 21-06-2008, 11:44 PM
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right got my self some tescos vegstable oil tonight but ended up paying about 120p a ltr for that ?? so dont seem to work out that much cheaper :-?
Old 21-06-2008, 11:45 PM
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My mate ran his astra TD on pure veg for ages, wouldnt start in winter so he had to start going 50/50 but in summer it was fine.
Old 21-06-2008, 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by smartrs
right got my self some tescos vegstable oil tonight but ended up paying about 120p a ltr for that ?? so dont seem to work out that much cheaper :-?

tesco do a cheaper version... but its ALWAYS sold out! as said before, buying in bulk is the cheapest way.

as for the cossie, pull your finger out!
Old 21-06-2008, 11:51 PM
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like i said i'm only trying a 75% - 25% mix in favor of deisal to start just cant seem to find the cheap cooking oil every one is on about
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Originally Posted by smartrs
right got my self some tescos vegstable oil tonight but ended up paying about 120p a ltr for that ?? so dont seem to work out that much cheaper :-?
IME you get less MPG on the veg oil, so its probably DEARER like that, not to mention all the hassle of filling up on it, fuck knows why you bothered at all at that price.
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Originally Posted by Chip
IME you get less MPG on the veg oil, so its probably DEARER like that, not to mention all the hassle of filling up on it, fuck knows why you bothered at all at that price.
around my way diesel is now £1.33 so it would be a good saving for me

looks like im off to tescos tomorrow
Old 21-06-2008, 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by MD Cos
tesco do a cheaper version... but its ALWAYS sold out! as said before, buying in bulk is the cheapest way.

as for the cossie, pull your finger out!
cossie is now on the move fingers crossed had a telephone with steve scott so things seem to be moving , its just having the time to do the car my self
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Originally Posted by MAD EVO 4
around my way diesel is now £1.33 so it would be a good saving for me

looks like im off to tescos tomorrow
1.20 and 45mpg is dearer than 1.33 and 50mpg
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Originally Posted by smartrs
cossie is now on the move fingers crossed had a telephone with steve scott so things seem to be moving , its just having the time to do the car my self

you planning something lairy? steve scott is a bit far to go for any regular sort of work...
Old 22-06-2008, 12:03 AM
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You get less MPG with used chip oil
in me Di transit i get more MPG with new oil than with diesel and it runs a hell of a lot better
Macro is about 86p per litre in 20 ltr drums
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Originally Posted by Chip
1.20 and 45mpg is dearer than 1.33 and 50mpg
ok smart arse
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Originally Posted by Chip
IME you get less MPG on the veg oil, so its probably DEARER like that, not to mention all the hassle of filling up on it, fuck knows why you bothered at all at that price.
this time was just a experment to see how the van runs on it if its fine i will either sorce it at a cheaper price or see if the local chippy can help but if its a complete diaster then i'll keep filling up at the pump , besides the next lot will be from cash and carry
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Originally Posted by MD Cos
you planning something lairy? steve scott is a bit far to go for any regular sort of work...
i've always used him well the 2 times i've been there and his prices seem to be very fair and a1 rally sport is only at sandy so not that far
i was thinking of just staying around the kinda power i got but i've got a thinking if the bottom end is being done why not start the ball rolling for a bit more, and with steve at least know i can drop the car to him and it will be done as i have not got the time at the minute to get the engine out
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thats fair enough mate... i know he's not a million miles away, but it seems like half way across the country when you've got a car on a trailer!


i'm half tempted to offer to rip it apart for you, but i think keily would kill me if i put ANOTHER dead ford in the garden
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lol its not in the best place at the moment half the reason o pulling my finger out now is the fact it was broke into last weekend at my parents place , my house is still like a building site hence not having the time to do it my self and i cant find any safe storage / workshop to let it a nightmare
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Originally Posted by smartrs
lol its not in the best place at the moment half the reason o pulling my finger out now is the fact it was broke into last weekend at my parents place , my house is still like a building site hence not having the time to do it my self and i cant find any safe storage / workshop to let it a nightmare

dodgy i'll keep an eye on mine then! did they attempt to steal it ()? or just take things from inside it?

what exactly needs doing to it? sum up the whole job in a sentence or so
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well attempt to steal it but all they go was my ultmate 80's cds from the glove box they poped the door lock and smashed the ignishion plastics and took the ecu cover off , there is nothing in the car to nick the head unit has been out for months and the car has not moved for 2 yrs as for what needs doing to it ... it has a broken diff which i have a second hand replacement for it , a bottom end tao which has been dignosed as little ends so pistons need replacing ,but the 205 block that is in it has been lined on number 4 after a crack in the bore a few years back and the idle adjust does not work on the ecu which i have a replacement ecu for it . as well as it needing new brakes as its sat for so long.
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so nothing too major really? just a thought about the brakes... they'll probably be seized, so instead of reconning or finding new 4 pots and rear calipers, why not go to red lodge or beck row scrappy and get some scorpio/4wd cossie brakes? they'll be cheaper off a scorpio while you're at it, you could get the 20mm rear ARB from one too

diff change is easy - under an hour

ecu is easy - under half an hour

engine could be out in a couple of hours too
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engine could be out in a couple of hours too
If only mine was 2wd.
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Originally Posted by SaffManLee
If only mine was 2wd.
got to take mine out today
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Yeah, I keep telling my self that too.
Fooking 4wd's
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im going to top up with veg oil in the land rover today
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I buy bio of the local hippy lol, 75p a litre. Mix 30 litres of bio to £10 of diesel-it stinks on startup but no smoke........runs a treat and fot the saving I shall continue. Vectra Di
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Originally Posted by SaffManLee
Yeah, I keep telling my self that too.
Fooking 4wd's
yours could be out in a couple of hours if you tried


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