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Old 18-06-2008, 04:27 PM
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re-doing my bathroom and probably going for a wall hung toilet with concealed cistern - any that you recommend or would avoid? with s-frame for hanging the toilet, not just the cistern. but the quality of the cistern and the flush buttons is important

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I'm no expert or a plumber either but when I did mine I got a "universal" one from Travis Perkins for about £15-£20
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im a plumber mate, ya need to make sure you have a decent fixing otherwise they rock on the wall (flexing wall) your better off getting 1 that bolts to the wall and the floor (the bracing on the back that is)

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Mines a macdee. Been fine in its 2 years. was about £150 iirc
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im a plumber mate, ya need to make sure you have a decent fixing otherwise they rock on the wall (flexing wall) your better off getting 1 that bolts to the wall and the floor (the bracing on the back that is)

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it would be. a new floor will be going in which it would bolt to at the bottom and to an external block wall behind, so should be plenty rigid

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I'm no expert or a plumber either but when I did mine I got a "universal" one from Travis Perkins for about £15-£20
it was more the s-frame as well as the cistern that i was asking about. sorry, should have made that clear

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Mines a macdee. Been fine in its 2 years. was about £150 iirc
thanks lee, will have a look for those
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go for a geberit frame and slimline cistern(comes as a pack for around£150)
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just make sure its acessible for when it leaks or needs repairing in the future,most properly installed ones have the removable panels for access but you do find some people that have "diy" them and then its a nightmare trying to get acess to them to carry out repairs
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Originally Posted by simhopper
go for a geberit frame and slimline cistern(comes as a pack for around£150)
i'll check them out, thanks

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just make sure its acessible for when it leaks or needs repairing in the future,most properly installed ones have the removable panels for access but you do find some people that have "diy" them and then its a nightmare trying to get acess to them to carry out repairs
i was thinking of having a panel that looks the same all tiled, but is held in place with a bead of sealant so that you can just slice the sealant to remove it
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id go for a grohe frame mate about the best on the market, i work for a distribution company who stocks them and well sell hundreds a month let me know what size frame you want an ill see what price i cn get you one for
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thanks matt, that'd be great

looking at the brochure, i can't see how the grohe frame fits to the wall behind it?
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for a tiled access panel use profab panels, cost a few quid but work a treat
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sounds good thanks, i'll look into them
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are you putting into a stud wall mate? if so doesnt need to attach to the wall just screw straight into the stud
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yes, but the frame still needs to be fixed to the wall behind the frame (a solid block wall) at the top (not just on the floor) for strength imo. see the picture below for the brackets on the top that go backwards.

going to do it a bit differently now and have the cistern seperate to the toilet holding frame as i want to locate the cistern offset to the side. so now on the look out for seperate frames and concealed cisterns (with air valve remote dual flush)

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you can get wall brakets for the grohe frames to mount on the wall you shouldnt need them tho
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oh yeah, seen them in the catalogue as an extra.
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so, i am on the hunt for good quality frames for wall hung toilets, and separate concealed cisterns (as narrow as possible, can be tall to get the volume) with remote dual flush.

also looking for a deep bath, but must be 1700 x 750 with side mounted taps. ideally with a shallow slope and one end and a steeper one at the other end (under the shower)

any ideas?
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most side mounted tap baths are double ended so will have plug in centre aswell

bathstore do the cheapest centre plug bath,and is one of the best for the price with a nice sturdy frame
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that's good to know, am going to look in there tomorrow
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ordered a bath, 2 basins and a wall hung toilet from bathstore that arrived today.

picked up a Grohe cistern (without frame etc) today that will be just the job thanks for the offer mattyb, but i had to have a good look through the catalogue at a local builders merchant and needed to be able to send it back easily if i couldn't get it to fit or whatever, so it was easier to buy from there in the end
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