View Poll Results: what combo should i do
Keep 4wd for track use
7
23.33%
Keep 2wd using 205 block
4
13.33%
Take Engine out of 4x4 and put it in 2wd
17
56.67%
take all 2wd gearbox,diff exhaust etc and out it on 4wd
2
6.67%
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Ive got a BIG dilemma
17-06-2008, 11:38 AM
#51
does seem crazy the amount people spend on a basic rebuild with some of these companies when your local engineering shop will do it for far less.
Fair enough if its a 600bhp with specialist knowledge required, but on a 400 or so motor, as Tabetha says, its a piece of cake as its all standard bottom end parts!
Fair enough if its a 600bhp with specialist knowledge required, but on a 400 or so motor, as Tabetha says, its a piece of cake as its all standard bottom end parts!
17-06-2008, 02:26 PM
#54
does seem crazy the amount people spend on a basic rebuild with some of these companies when your local engineering shop will do it for far less.
Fair enough if its a 600bhp with specialist knowledge required, but on a 400 or so motor, as Tabetha says, its a piece of cake as its all standard bottom end parts!
Fair enough if its a 600bhp with specialist knowledge required, but on a 400 or so motor, as Tabetha says, its a piece of cake as its all standard bottom end parts!
Obviously if you are mechanically apt, then paying for a basic rebuild is not worth doing (and you can only blame one person if it goes wrong
), and below 350bhp, I agree that the standard engine is more than capable of being put back together as it was. However, to achieve a GENUINE 400bhp requires headwork and cams (which means pistons machining etc) and then there is the mapping. Personally, I would rather have some warranty and come-back than try and go it alone, but that is because I don't like getting grease under my nails 
.I think it a little unfair to criticise costs of tuners (unless it is impossible to for them to justify the hours put in to the build), as they have to earn a living and I'm sure you wouldn't do your own work for nothing
. Obviously it is nice to do a "deal" and feel you have been looked after, but I bet you'd soon get pissed off with your employer if he asked if you could do the same job for X amount less than he was currently paying you .
18-06-2008, 01:00 AM
#55
20K+ Super Poster.
I find it odd that some have the good rep they have, when they put out some shit, like everyone else they get things wrong from time to time, but a lot of people don't want to upset the "trend" by giving thier own experiences when bad, as they are scared to buck the popular opinion.
tabetha
tabetha
18-06-2008, 01:56 AM
#56
Unfortunately the parts are becoming increasingly hard to get hold of AND expensive. Just price up a rebuild yourself using genuine Cosworth parts and you will see how "cheap" even a basic engine rebuild is in parts alone. It's shocking for a Cosworth. You can obviously skimp and use cheap / second hand parts to keep the cost down, but an engine builder is unlikely to want to go down this route, especially when a certain degree of warranty is given.
Obviously if you are mechanically apt, then paying for a basic rebuild is not worth doing (and you can only blame one person if it goes wrong ), and below 350bhp, I agree that the standard engine is more than capable of being put back together as it was. However, to achieve a GENUINE 400bhp requires headwork and cams (which means pistons machining etc) and then there is the mapping. Personally, I would rather have some warranty and come-back than try and go it alone, but that is because I don't like getting grease under my nails .
), and below 350bhp, I agree that the standard engine is more than capable of being put back together as it was. However, to achieve a GENUINE 400bhp requires headwork and cams (which means pistons machining etc) and then there is the mapping. Personally, I would rather have some warranty and come-back than try and go it alone, but that is because I don't like getting grease under my nails .I think it a little unfair to criticise costs of tuners (unless it is impossible to for them to justify the hours put in to the build), as they have to earn a living and I'm sure you wouldn't do your own work for nothing . Obviously it is nice to do a "deal" and feel you have been looked after, but I bet you'd soon get pissed off with your employer if he asked if you could do the same job for X amount less than he was currently paying you .
. Obviously it is nice to do a "deal" and feel you have been looked after, but I bet you'd soon get pissed off with your employer if he asked if you could do the same job for X amount less than he was currently paying you .On the contrary though, if its a 600bhp motor you want, then realistically established tuners like Reyland or MAD or SCS or MSD or NMS etc make a lot of sense then as the amount of research and development involved make it far beyond what a local engineering firm would do.
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