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Old 04-06-2008, 10:25 AM
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anyone got a head for a cossie? must be perfect
Old 04-06-2008, 11:08 AM
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You need to specify precisely which model, as the different variations command different prices .
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
You need to specify precisely which model, as the different variations command different prices .

i thoguht a head was a head

its going on a 2wd engine
Old 04-06-2008, 11:13 AM
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3dr (2 bolt theromstat) or later Sapphire type ?
Old 04-06-2008, 11:14 AM
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Rainbird-'' Prices are on my website''
I say- "mike that quotes annoying''
Rainbird-" not as annoying as having a website that noone looks at"
have you checked mikes website roflol
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
3dr (2 bolt theromstat) or later Sapphire type ?

its going into a 88 saph.

and i havnt seen the block so not sure
Old 04-06-2008, 11:15 AM
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you wouldn't want to use an original 3 door head

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Old 04-06-2008, 11:18 AM
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which would be the best one to use mate?
Old 04-06-2008, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by R5FORD
which would be the best one to use mate?
For what?
Old 04-06-2008, 11:20 AM
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best head?

Any you can get that isnt skimmed to death LOL

Expect it to cost a few quid though!
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
For what?

for my 2wd saph engine..around 450bhp
Old 04-06-2008, 11:27 AM
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You could help by providing a bit more info .
1. A 2wd head will have the casting on the side to take a turbo damper, whereas a 4x4 one won't, so will require a Bailey / Spec-R hanger or bracket.
2. They come in various levels of condition / spec and whether you want a built up one or just a bare head.

Expect to pay £375-£475 depending on condition and date of manufacture (the latter being for a head cast (but still bare) to the later 4x4 spec, but still with the turbo damper mounting - the very last 2wd heads made).

Obviously I can also have these ported for you to a good 450bhp spec .
Old 04-06-2008, 11:29 AM
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mike il be sending it your way for porting.. but need to find one first.. you know of any?? i dont mind which damper i use tbh
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speedshack had a good 4wd head when i was in there last week.
Old 04-06-2008, 11:33 AM
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On the case .
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cheers mike now tell me how much your gona charge me for the headwork and what turbo to go for as i have no idea.. had so many diffrent options and not sure
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Stop moving the goal posts then .

A roller-bearing T38 will do 450bhp, but that will be about it's comfortable limit...

An externally gated GT30 0.63 a/r is a nice 450bhp turbo and will squeeze 500bhp if pushed (see Paul Ripley's dyno figures) . However, you would normally spec the whole engine around the minimum power required, in order to make it as responsive as possible.
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Stop moving the goal posts then .

A roller-bearing T38 will do 450bhp, but that will be about it's comfortable limit...

An externally gated GT30 0.63 a/r is a nice 450bhp turbo and will squeeze 500bhp if pushed (see Paul Ripley's dyno figures) . However, you would normally spec the whole engine around the minimum power required, in order to make it as responsive as possible.

ok lets call it 470minimum dont really want to go external now.
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actully lets call it 450
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T4 roller-bearing or GT30 internally gated. Then swing the cams for response and sacrifice some top-end . Those are your ONLY choices for 470bhp internally gated . I would go with the T4 personally, as it is bomb proof. But according to everyone, I'm stuck in the past .
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
T4 roller-bearing or GT30 internally gated. Then swing the cams for response and sacrifice some top-end . Those are your ONLY choices for 470bhp internally gated . I would go with the T4 personally, as it is bomb proof. But according to everyone, I'm stuck in the past .
price me up on a internaly gated gt30 then mike.. and no its not on your website
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
T4 roller-bearing or GT30 internally gated. Then swing the cams for response and sacrifice some top-end . Those are your ONLY choices for 470bhp internally gated . I would go with the T4 personally, as it is bomb proof. But according to everyone, I'm stuck in the past .

and yes i agree with being stuck in the past..

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Oit, fuck all wrong with gold wheels!

But you wanna see how Rainbird does his hair...............80'sRus!
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Originally Posted by Yeti Racing
Oit, fuck all wrong with gold wheels!

But you wanna see how Rainbird does his hair...............80'sRus!

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Originally Posted by R5FORD
anyone got a head for a cossie? must be perfect
alright mate; i hve a spare complete head which measures over 138mm; pretty sure its from a 2wd but not 100% sure

£425

how quickly do you need it? as its still attatched to a block
Old 04-06-2008, 12:23 PM
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mike,your head prices are a bit out!!!!!!!!!!

£450 for an unskimmed 4x4 head!!

i will have 20 off you please.
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Originally Posted by LHD220Turbo
alright mate; i hve a spare complete head which measures over 138mm; pretty sure its from a 2wd but not 100% sure

£425

how quickly do you need it? as its still attatched to a block

hi mate, would need it soonish.. let me see if mike has sorted me anything if not il let you know matey.
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the early 3-door head was fitted to the early 2wd saphs aswell
Old 04-06-2008, 06:39 PM
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someone was giving one away on here the other day aswell,try doing a search for it to see if its still up for grabs,it was in GD area aswell.
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Originally Posted by LHD220Turbo
alright mate; i hve a spare complete head which measures over 138mm; pretty sure its from a 2wd but not 100% sure

£425

how quickly do you need it? as its still attatched to a block

well past it best then as it will now be very close into the valve seat area

I have a 4x4 head that measures 138.75mm that perfectly flat if your interested
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Originally Posted by st3v3
someone was giving one away on here the other day aswell,try doing a search for it to see if its still up for grabs,it was in GD area aswell.
That was me mate, but that head would be no good for 450+ as it was already skimed to death.

If it helps I paid £650 fairly recently for a bare 2wd head, although it had already had a lot of work done.

An unskimmed head will be weighing in at comfortably £700+, or at least that's what I found when I was looking for one.
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you can have my cnc head for 2k, and il buy another one
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Originally Posted by Mitsy FQ
you wouldn't want to use an original 3 door head
why?my 88 saff had a 3 door engine from new in it!
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Originally Posted by silky16v
well past it best then as it will now be very close into the valve seat area

I have a 4x4 head that measures 138.75mm that perfectly flat if your interested
? joking right? i think the head i've got measures 138.54, so it must be past its best? although yours is a whole .21mm more and yours is OK?
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anything over 138.4 im sure will be ok
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Originally Posted by JTECHSAFF
you can have my cnc head for 2k, and il buy another one

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Originally Posted by LHD220Turbo
? joking right? i think the head i've got measures 138.54, so it must be past its best? although yours is a whole .21mm more and yours is OK?

no any head past 138mm is deemed past its best ford say any lower than 138.68 and you can have issues, i've personnally had a head at 138mm on a low comp engine running 380bhp and had no issues

If you go off ford manual 138.68mm is the lowest a head should be,
but you can get away with running them as low as 138mm but its not advisable as you can get valve contact when the heads are that low
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Originally Posted by silky16v
no any head past 138mm is deemed past its best ford say any lower than 138.68 and you can have issues, i've personnally had a head at 138mm on a low comp engine running 380bhp and had no issues

If you go off ford manual 138.68mm is the lowest a head should be,
but you can get away with running them as low as 138mm but its not advisable as you can get valve contact when the heads are that low

mate pm me a price for the head please.
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Originally Posted by R5FORD
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in my resto thread..its a work of art....

expensive though
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Originally Posted by Cosworth Rallyesport
mike,your head prices are a bit out!!!!!!!!!!

£450 for an unskimmed 4x4 head!!

i will have 20 off you please.
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