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Old 01-06-2008, 03:25 PM
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Will Group a oz cosworth wheels fit on my fiesta they 15x7 et33 because someone told me that the pcd is diffferent on the group a wheels.
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group a wheels have 14mm studs dont know if thats what you mean ?
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pcd is not different at all,your friend talks shite!
Old 01-06-2008, 05:46 PM
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Iam almost certain the PCD is exactly the same but just check it to be sure.
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PCD os the same but the wheel nuts are different as said amd using the wrong nuts will allow them to pull through and off the hub !!!
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You need a set of the proper grp-A nuts. They are sleeve nuts with a wide collar that fit right through the wheel. Not difficult to get hold of tbh.
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i will get a sent then iv got a machine shop at work so i can get a set of collars made up to fit the wheels.
Old 01-06-2008, 07:16 PM
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The hub bore of the grp a wheel might well be out - you might need a spigot to get them sitting on the disc/hub centrally. Get a pair of measuring calipers on the wheel and hub to check.
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you want the proper nuts as they are wider than normal ones,also make sure the mags arent cracked ANYWHERE! as they are impossible to repair properly
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Originally Posted by S1
You need a set of the proper grp-A nuts. They are sleeve nuts with a wide collar that fit right through the wheel. Not difficult to get hold of tbh.

using group a wheel nuts on a group a rim with std studs isnt going to make a shit of differance, and isnt going to hold the wheel on properly.
now if you used group a studs with group a nuts that would work(obviously)

the sleeve type nuts that people use to go through group a sleeves is just a conversion to fit group a wheels to std studs, they are not a motorsport item at all.

as long as thats cleared up !
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Originally Posted by markk
using group a wheel nuts on a group a rim with std studs isnt going to make a shit of differance, and isnt going to hold the wheel on properly.
now if you used group a studs with group a nuts that would work(obviously)

the sleeve type nuts that people use to go through group a sleeves is just a conversion to fit group a wheels to std studs, they are not a motorsport item at all.

as long as thats cleared up !
thats what i thought group a nuts are the 14 mm one that are 22 mm socket arnt they ?
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Originally Posted by J1mbo
thats what i thought group a nuts are the 14 mm one that are 22 mm socket arnt they ?

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Originally Posted by J1mbo
thats what i thought group a nuts are the 14 mm one that are 22 mm socket arnt they ?
later ones are,early ones were nearer 12.5mm with 19mm hex.
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Originally Posted by S1
You need a set of the proper grp-A nuts. They are sleeve nuts with a wide collar that fit right through the wheel. Not difficult to get hold of tbh.

no they are not,sleeved conversion nuts are about as group A as dumpvalves and cone air filters!!!

to much max power here me thinks!!
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Originally Posted by Cosworth Rallyesport
later ones are,early ones were nearer 12.5mm with 19mm hex.
ooh ryt lol neva new that so there is difference between the early and late ones but is there any difference between graven and tarmac hubs ?
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are these ok to use on the group a wheels to fit on to my car.http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/cosworth-rally...2em118Q2el1247
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My Grp-A sleaved nuts had 21mm heads

The Focus WRC OZ Mags had a different PCD

Will fit your fiesta but you maybe need a 2-3mm spacer
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thay are of a cosworth they look like the ones in your sig but 15" also can magnesium wheels be powder coated.

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Personally from experience I would never touch a Mag wheel older then 10 years now as they are a age deteriorating material and I have never ever had a decent magnesium wheel refurb and certainly wouldn't touch the likes of Ian Jemison again.

If you have a rally team and you can afford the 400/500 wheels they use in a season then thats different but for the road user stick to alloy not matter how good they look.

All in my opinion from personal experience of course... i'm sure others will disagree
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Originally Posted by Donk1
thay are of a cosworth they look like the ones in your sig but 15" also can magnesium wheels be powder coated.
You shouldn't really powdercoat them as they can deteriorate considerably in strength under the heat.
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Originally Posted by Paul Ripley
Personally from experience I would never touch a Mag wheel older then 10 years now as they are a age deteriorating material and I have never ever had a decent magnesium wheel refurb and certainly wouldn't touch the likes of Ian Jemison again.

If you have a rally team and you can afford the 400/500 wheels they use in a season then thats different but for the road user stick to alloy not matter how good they look.

All in my opinion from personal experience of course... i'm sure others will disagree
im with paul on this one,dont talk to us about magnesium rims
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Originally Posted by Donk1
thay are of a cosworth they look like the ones in your sig but 15" also can magnesium wheels be powder coated.
Were they the ones on ebay btw? If it was, did you win em?
I was bidding on these:http://offer.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll
But missed out
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Originally Posted by Cosworth Rallyesport
no they are not,sleeved conversion nuts are about as group A as dumpvalves and cone air filters!!!

to much max power here me thinks!!
How about you post a pic of the proper nut then instead of trying to look all clever and putting people down.

As far as I was made aware when I bought my wheels the nuts that came with them were group A but I would genuinely like to know what the proper item looks like.
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Originally Posted by S1
How about you post a pic of the proper nut then instead of trying to look all clever and putting people down.

As far as I was made aware when I bought my wheels the nuts that came with them were group A but I would genuinely like to know what the proper item looks like.

they look like any other wheel nut!!

whats clever about that?
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and as they will only fit a group A stud which is nothing like standard why are we even discussing it????
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Originally Posted by Donk1
are these ok to use on the group a wheels to fit on to my car.http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/cosworth-rally...2em118Q2el1247

they are perfect,exactly made for using group A wheels on standard studs,

good seller that bloke as well,gets some real pukka groupA bits in stock all the time,
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Originally Posted by Cosworth Rallyesport
they are perfect,exactly made for using group A wheels on standard studs,

good seller that bloke as well,gets some real pukka groupA bits in stock all the time,
haha that made me laff
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heres some group A ones,not sure what pauls are!!!
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