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Old 28-05-2008 | 01:14 PM
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hi mates, have a decision thats been bugging me for a while! got an escort mk1, which I am fitting the arches of the zakspeed replica in here. now its time for the engine choice to see how am I going to cut the gearbox tunnel etc. sooo, will I fit a cossie? or maybe another engine? and if I buy one from england, what are the prices there?

and I am still deciding about colour, white black?

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you carnt fit an rs trbo gearbox as there fwd

so you need a rwd gearbox, and a cossie t5 would do the job depending onwhat engine you are using
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Cossie lump.......no other engine IMHO
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Cossie lump.......no other engine IMHO
Exactly mate
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stay away from the cvh!

what's your budget?

could go pinto, xflow, cossie (na or turbo) , (zetec na or turbo), duratec (na or turbo), s2000 and so on.

my choice would be NA duratec tbh.
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or an rs turbo?

jesus wept!
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well, am planning that first I will sort out the shell, than the engine. hmm not that of a high budget im afraid to tell you the truth i dont have much of an idea regarding engines. searched on ebay for duratec, found this? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...ksid=p3907.m29

what you lot think? will it make some good bhp, and what about the gearbox etc?

know jack shit to be honest
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Originally Posted by Markb_s1
stay away from the cvh!

what's your budget?

could go pinto, xflow, cossie (na or turbo) , (zetec na or turbo), duratec (na or turbo), s2000 and so on.

my choice would be NA duratec tbh.
all good choices,remember the xe on boddies is popular too!
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If you're on a budget - zetec engine on a type 9 sierra box with clutch bits miix and matched to fit.
Should be relatively straight forward.

Cossie would be nice but I cant see it being cheap, plus with the amount of power you'll 'probably' need a more expensive rear-end setup.

Its all down to money..as usual.
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thankx for the reply mate. well zetec sounds good, I just need a bit of power than the normal 1600cc pushrod. have u any ideas about prices etc pls? will the Quaife ATB diff match with this all?

pls bare with me as im no good with engines!
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what about a rover?
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I love Cossies so would probably go that way, but TBH cheapest option for reliable power and easy fitting would be a SR20 engine and box from a 200SX.
Over 200bhp stock, rev well, last for ever even at 300bhp or so, bits are cheap and easy, etc etc.

Saying stuff like a massive V8 or Supra engine is retarded unless you have no fucking idea how big and hard to fit thatd be.

Not to mention this sounds like a budget car...
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how much will the sr20 cost me stavros! and thankx for the reply mate.
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i know what id do, was thinking of doing it to my MK1 last year, but sold it (big mistake)

Ford or chevy small block V8, reliable, simple and lots of horses for your money!

and sounds amazing!!!
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liking the sr20! and it doesnt cost that much either. the prob is, would people like laugh when they see a nissan engine into a ford?

lee any links for a chevy or a ford v8 lol?
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Originally Posted by Ryan_3
liking the sr20! and it doesnt cost that much either. the prob is, would people like laugh when they see a nissan engine into a ford?

lee any links for a chevy or a ford v8 lol?
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its a bit expensive though eh?
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Originally Posted by Ryan_3

lee any links for a chevy or a ford v8 lol?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJnewxZHRRs&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEWqEW8eDrQ

bloddy hell if that dont convince u then nothing will. You can get a sorted V8 pushing around 400 for very little money! no stupid turbos or electrics, just fuel and a spark.

hell if you dont do it i will. anyone want to buy an escort cos or px on a mk1

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Originally Posted by gar mae
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yeah, fcuking bargain mate, i dont think
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if it's got to be cheap i'd say either a pinto (even though i don't really like the things, but you coudl get one in there dead cheap on the standard crossmember, gearbox etc!) or a zetec. the zetec in mine cost me Ł750 including the twin carbs, raceline water rail, dunnell sump, dunnell mounts and a few other bits. it's only in there temporarily while i get used to the grip levels in the car but the last few times it was run up put out bang on 172 bhp every time. xe is another decent option but i suspect it will be lightly more expensive... more powerful though in all likelihood.

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if it's got to be cheap i'd say either a pinto (even though i don't really like the things, but you coudl get one in there dead cheap on the standard crossmember, gearbox etc!) or a zetec. the zetec in mine cost me Ł750 including the twin carbs, raceline water rail, dunnell sump, dunnell mounts and a few other bits. it's only in there temporarily while i get used to the grip levels in the car but the last few times it was run up put out bang on 172 bhp every time. xe is another decent option but i suspect it will be lightly more expensive... more powerful though in all likelihood.
you can get a 2nd hand 5.7 litre V8 and gearbox delivered on a pallet for Ł500 and easily standard double the bhp of a pinto

Real Steel V8 specialists, in middlesex
http://www.realsteel.co.uk/

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you can get a 2nd hand 5.7 litre V8 and gearbox delivered on a pallet for Ł500 and easily standard double the bhp of a pinto

Real Steel V8 specialists, in middlesex
http://www.realsteel.co.uk/

it's hassle though... what are you mounting that on? standard crossmember?
how heavy is it?
what you gonna do for a propshaft, and a rear diff when the english axle shits itself? decent axle can set you back 2-4k easy!

i let my pinto go for 120 quid, and a pair of twin 40s for 150. then all you need is rs2000 engine mount and prop, plus an exhaust.
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the 5.7 litre v8 sounds good. about the diff I m using the Quaife ATB diff Ford english 22T, and a normal axle with tramp bars and have to buy quaife shafts. will it still be not good enough?

lee mate do they deliver to malta though? and what I have to buy extra apart for the prop shaft. thankx and sorry for my stupid questions
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i would go for an all alloy n/a from whatever (ford origin will be easiest)

things just get silly when you have a turbo and they become less driveable and need more and more things uprating
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any more clues pls mate about the all aloy?

I ve been thinking more about the rover v8 and the sr20 engine to tell you the truth. can I ask a Question? I am finding rover v8's taken out from land rovers. should these do the job or there totally different? thankx for your help!
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the 5.7 litre v8 sounds good. about the diff I m using the Quaife ATB diff Ford english 22T, and a normal axle with tramp bars and have to buy quaife shafts. will it still be not good enough?

lee mate do they deliver to malta though? and what I have to buy extra apart for the prop shaft. thankx and sorry for my stupid questions

what width tyres are you running on the back?
if you have any decent grip i reckon the axle will shit itself.

that said some of the harris lot over here have been drag racing on slicks with decent torque without any problems.
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any more clues pls mate about the all aloy?

I ve been thinking more about the rover v8 and the sr20 engine to tell you the truth. can I ask a Question? I am finding rover v8's taken out from land rovers. should these do the job or there totally different? thankx for your help!

all alloy = duratec great engines and current favourite for old fords wanting plenty of NA grunt.
have a look here... and that's only a 2.0
http://www.turbosport.co.uk/showthread.php?t=125031

bear in mind that you'll have to sort something with the bellhousing as they're not standard ford bolt pattern. should imagine bits are easily available though.

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Originally Posted by Markb_s1
it's hassle though... what are you mounting that on? standard crossmember?
how heavy is it?
what you gonna do for a propshaft, and a rear diff when the english axle shits itself? decent axle can set you back 2-4k easy!

i let my pinto go for 120 quid, and a pair of twin 40s for 150. then all you need is rs2000 engine mount and prop, plus an exhaust.
im not sure on the running gear, ive never done one before. but anyone with a bit on knowledge and welding skills can knock up a crosmember etc.

yeh an axle can cost 2-4 k but there are other things, but thats if you want shiny, new hi spec magazing type build. if you just want a cheap car which the emphasis is more on go than show and brand names then it can be done for far less money

i think an old IRS jaguar unit would fit fairly easy, any propshaft can be easily cut/altered to suit

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any more clues pls mate about the all aloy?

I ve been thinking more about the rover v8 and the sr20 engine to tell you the truth. can I ask a Question? I am finding rover v8's taken out from land rovers. should these do the job or there totally different? thankx for your help!
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the 5.7 litre v8 sounds good. about the diff I m using the Quaife ATB diff Ford english 22T, and a normal axle with tramp bars and have to buy quaife shafts. will it still be not good enough?

lee mate do they deliver to malta though? and what I have to buy extra apart for the prop shaft. thankx and sorry for my stupid questions
Mate i cant give you any solid advise as i kept with the x flow in my mk1, so have no physical experience with a mk1 and a V8.

Any V8 will do. the old rover lump are cheap and plentiful, and easy to work on, cheap to rebuild as well, and a good reliable base. if u aim for bigger power in the future id advise a ford or chevy block, as there is much more available tuning wise. go for a small block, it will fit fairly easy and is relativly light.

i should think they will ship as its on a pallet

as said above yes any thing can cost a lot, bit it doesnt have to if ur not fussed about it all being bling bling shiny new branded stuff, then you can easily build a nice quick car for little out lay and just your time!

you best bet is to check out www.oldskoolford.co.uk there are a loads of V8 mk1s lurking on the forum. Try to contact 'Retro AL' he knows a lot of stuff!
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. Try to contact 'Retro AL' he knows a lot of stuff!

lol... especially since his car was on such a tight budget

seriously though.. al's a good bet or try northern bloke (andy) on turbo sport.. he has a zakspeed arched rover v8 mk1 in castrol colours which i think he did all himself.
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yeah mate that was my inspiration lol! shall I buy that arches, will it look good?


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