Ade

Quite agree that there's plenty like that who own Fords... and an equal ammount of folk who get their kicks using Auto-Glym....

With regards to the ones that matter though, I'd say the majority of big powered Fords are used far more for road racing than on the strip though.
And if that's their typical use its most likely they'll be built & set up with that in mind.....

JonnyBravo

I ran a 2 sec flat 60ft on A539's

They are shit though, can't beat a set of 888's for grip

sbd16v

id love to see that as about 2 years ago i was at pod and there was some quite R5's there now i have always loved them so went over for a chat, he started to tell me it was the fastest road legal one in the country 11 sometime iirc

to which i was impressesed it was only a few months after i had run 12.6 so i knew how hard it was to get into the 12's let alone the 11's.

so decided to have a look around the car when i see him on the full slicks and his mate was also i ask'd what there times were on them and they were his road legal times, i said how can they be the car aint road legal but as far as they were concernd changing the tyres did not make the ''car'' non road legal.

and funny enough a quick internet search and we get

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renault_5_GT_Turbo

**The current known fastest quarter-mile time for a GT Turbo, set by a member of the Renault Turbo Owners Club, stands at 11.46 seconds, an impressive time for a road legal, apart from slick tyres,**

pa_sjo

It wasn't speculation, he did run 13.1. That was when the car wasn't running full power (approx 280-300bhp) and he was at Brunters (and getting told off for being faster than a Noble that was being video'd). After the power was wound up a bit (to approx 330bhp), his times got slower (see TOTB), in the region of 13.3 iirc.

I'm not quite sure what the relevance is of "nearly 10 years ago".

Shonky

That was ade's nova, I've got some videos on youtube of it: http://youtube.com/v6ka

COMEDY DAN

There are defo R5's doing Low 11's, I remember being at Pod and being gutted.

couldnt get my head round, how with the money and knowledge on the RS scene we cant make an rs turbo do this.....!! But they can make a 1.4 French rocket do this.

Shonky

That's exactly what my mate didn't have, he got the car down from a 13.7 to an 11.3 without changing the power, no money makes you think about getting the best out of what you've got.

Tim

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My times from the thrash were 4.9 to 60 9.7 to 100 (they told me no one has been faster in an escort s2) last time at pod was 13.1 @ 122
which won the central day shootout, i done a 12.7 before at 115 so theres lots more to come it was just so slippy that day anyways engines out so we will never know on that 1 but the new engine were aiming for a terminal of 130 plus which will be fun have to see,not bad for a track car /road car.
tim

Turbo Zetec

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care to share with the rest of the ford community what makes you so fast?

matt p

The red RPM motorsport one has, 11.2 afaik 2+ bar of boost and not a lot inside it lol!

philpy-si

A few years back there was a White S2 in fast ford, which was jacked up at the back and low at the front for grip, road legal. Think it had TSW venoms, and Severn Valley written in big letters up the side, that did an 11.9 IIRC.

brizie

That was a load of shite tho, timing error

M K

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my best times are as follows

5.1 - 60mph
10.1 - 100mph
150.9 mph max speed (i have no wish to bother with top speed)

those times were on r888's (195/50/15)

my best 1/4 mile was at last years classic ford show @ santa pod

12.66 @ 115mph on crappy yoko A539's run at 15psi.

ALL RUN AT BETWEEN 250BHP - 275BHP APPROX


i will happily run slicks this weekend at central day if someone can bring me a set along on 6x15" ET35??? i only have my spare track tyres, ACB10 avons at the mo but does anyone think they will give me more grip over my yokos and YES the avon acb10 is a road legal tyre

AVON ACB10


i may be able to get 2 R888'S to run with as well but not 100% sure yet as there on my oz wheels which need group a wheel nuts and i havent got any lol

regards
marc

gus

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i will look if i still have my grp a nuts, you need the sleeved ones im guessing

M K

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Yeah mate, for m12x1.5

NUTS RuS

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Depending on the weather I'd run the Avon's over the Yoko's yes.

If the pressures are set correct they will be miles better.

I have some used 888's, Michelin's and possibly Dunlops all on 15" rims sat doing nothing.

Where is the event ?

M K

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its at santa pod tony,

other problem il have now is i have just had the car geometry set up and corner weighted etc and i run 2deg neg camber on the front wheels so far from ideal for pod lol but im always up for giving the car a proper beasting run after run

blacky.

i mguessing he is meaning classic ford this weekend

kennyA

11s for a FWD road legal car, that is quick.

here for comparison are some race car times.

ranging from 10.4 (white escos) to 10.6 (white CN car) to 12 - 13 secs for the other cars.

http://daten.ws-mack.de/Download.asp...Kat23/1_F3.wmv

XRT_si

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MK - Your welcome to borrow my R888s if you need some? Ill be at pod on 7/8th June.

Twellsie

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a powerfull engine

Turbo Zetec

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i think you'll fond thats not why he's in the 12's... as many others have similar power and get nowhere near those times

C10SSE

Do enlighten us all then if you know

Charlie Chalk

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Im sure Tim uses the NOS to help stop the boost spike in 1st, to help with grip.

Or something along them lines!

GavStyli

i think tim only activates his nos from 3rd gear, i wish i had his engine in mine ffs really impressed with it

Johnny Knoxville

11sec Fiesta

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ijzaw2IbhRE&feature=related

chris-m

andy nicholls got into the high tens on road legal tyres in his rover and low tens on slick tyres at 149mph terminals. a lot of it is down to traction control, set up, launch, and flat shifts etc not just outright power. he is down to 1.7s 60fts on his full setup in a fwd car!

Tim

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All i can say is that the car is set up for track most the time so as mk says the neg camber dont help,my car is far from a 1/4 mile car ,its always been good from the first time i ran 13 ,9 was my first go 5 years ago on the old mfi 1.6 engine lol,look at peoples terminal speed to see what power they have,as for the new engine i honesty dont know Karl and ollie are building it as we speak so i cannot tell you much apart from ts 1.6 and a cvh with some tweeks but should be good for a 130 terminal at the pod which should take some beating IMO dont know many fwd with 120 plus terminals anyway i recon you need 400 hp to get 120 plus, looking at 2wd cossie cars,suspention wise i run the ttechnics arp like christain etc and coilovers like others so dunno why its fast ,maybe its the driver lmao i always drive it like i stole it anyways as anyone will tell you.
tim

Turbo Zetec

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a guy i work with is getting consistent 125mph terminals with under 300bhp in a NA corsa . i'm sure he said his 60ft times were around the 2 dead mark.

driving it like you stole it definately helps though

Turbo Zetec

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now they're some awesome 60ft times! thats 4wd territory! i totally agree that the setup of the car is what makes the biggest difference

Linsay

That's why i like what you've acheived with it timmy

JonnyBravo

Yours always consistant Tim thats the main thing.

I don't believe you need 400hp to do 120 + though, we pulled 121mph with 266/288.

Whats your 60fts like ?

A lot of it is down to the driver though, power is useless if you can't pedal it, There was a 2wd Saph cossy a few years ago now that ran a 11.3 @ 130+ at the pod, 533hp, no nitrous.

TOTB is going to rock this year

timrud

The FWD at TOTB is always very exciting and unpredictable, think without those lads there it would be a far more boring day!

Jonny I think gearing plays an important part in terminal speed. Also power delivery, with NOS you get a nice lift on the torque curve all the way through the rev range.

For example, my car when it was on Phase 3.5 could never get more than a 109mph terminal. I never took it on the rollers but I can imagine how wank the curve would look . Peak power it probably matches your 120+ terminal car, but of course in reality the 120+ car is WAY faster

You gonna be at PVS dude?

JonnyBravo

That is true, I'm not going to agree it was nice though brutal springs to mind

timrud

Jonny, quick question on behalf of my mate with the blue NMS'd Nova...

He rang me today, and says he is thinking of chucking a 100 shot through the car just for PV. He is on standard rods, and the car only rev's to 7400..... what you reckon? Disaster or winner?

I think its gonna go tits up... but what do I know

Paddy

Whatever happened to that 400bhp+ FWD Nissan Micra from Scotland? Did he ever manage to get the power down well enough to run decent times compared to some above?

timrud

I remember that car! Blast from the past....

Also there was an MR2, which was ballisitc. I know its not FWD, but still another blast fromthe past. Remember 2 vids of it getting smoked off the line by a mile, but still winning. Sure it cracked a 10?

JonnyBravo

You may be on borrowed time running 100 shot on top of whatever power it already has

2 things break standard rods, big revs and lots of torque, torque just tends to bend them though. I don't think anyone has proven that power breaks the rods.

I'd be inclined to fit a kit though, start at 50hp and work up.

If it was my car I'd have it on 100hp hit, I'm obviously well aware of what might happen though and if it blew I'd just rebuild it with a stronger version of whatever breaks

I will be at PV, I'll be up there with a fair few people, can't wait no car to run anymore though, hopefully next year I'll get to run a Ford at PVS

JonnyBravo

Still about, was at totb last year iirc

Seriously rapid car, I don't think its run into the 10's just yet though, I'd like to be proved wrong though