Chip

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The whole point of Tony's reply is that it doesnt need to be an expert tuner to set it up properly on an "off the shelf" chip, it just needs to be someone who isnt a complete mong fucktard and can follow some basic instructions.

pa_sjo

I personally wouldn't want a high power engine running an off-the-shelf chip that's been 'set-up' by some not-so-mongtard mechanic on a CO machine at idle.

Chip

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Was this thread only about high power engines then?

Doesnt look that way, from how it reads it could be referring to something as simple as a stage 3 cossie IMHO, which lets face it, isnt exactly rocket science to get working!

foreigneRS

imo it's down to cost. ford owners are notoriously pikey and would rather pay £50 for a copy chip of unknown origin (possibly a motorsport chip where part load, cruise and idle are not so important) than whatever a proper chip would cost (and save in fuel and engine damage)

G2RSR

sounds about right also they will spend all there money building the engine then skimp out on the mapping

there reason being i have spent to much money on the thing anyway so i will go for a cheap mapping job to keep the cost down

pa_sjo

Oh, let me clarify - I consider a standard cossie to be a 'high power engine', in that it's producing approximately twice what it'd produce at atmospheric levels. A stage 3 YB is a 'very high power' engine, on the grand scale of things. Everything is relative.

Chip

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Blimey, you're easily pleased

pa_sjo

As I said, everything is relative. You have to classify it somehow. If you can't get your head around relativity.. well..

Chip

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I can indeed, and more importantly I can also get my head around the fact a reasonable state of tune for a fast road N/A motor is about the same as a standard cossie, but maybe you cant

tabetha

I had a EA chip, as a stop gap, before other things, wish now that I hadn't.
EA did the install/set up, and it was still crap despite my willingness to pay whatever it cost.
I have my mapping booked, but no dates till the 16th JULY, and that was a cancellation!!
Still at least it gives me time to get all the other bits done, and mapping is only £280, for triple maps.
I think that some tuners play a bit too safe fuelling wise, saves any comeback.
tabetha

scoooby slayer

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msd live map, my car went there with pretty much everything new just not set up good enough and he sorted it. good fuel consumption and no smoke just a few flames when you back off from a hard run

Charlie Chalk

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On boost my Pulsar is mid to high 11's, Jay said it was running sweet when we put the AFR on it!

Fiecos Dan

The other thing,

some people think a rally/race car tune or chip, is fine being rich on idle or cruise, as the car wont be @ those loads for any length of time.
But still no need.