smitsturbo

i baught a 350bhp saph yesterday & came off a roundabout sideways & mounted the curb, it minced the egsaust & broke a mount by pushing the engine up about 4 inches i started it strait after to reverse it off of the curb & it cut out after 10 seconds then i towed it away & left it over night in a garage, so today i changed the mount & egsaust no problem, pushed the white safety switch in in the boot & went to start it but no fuel pump & no spark so i checked to see if there was power going to the pump & there was none but the pump works fine after a wee test but still no startin it turns over fine aswell.........any ideas folks.....please

xr4x4rs

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check all the wiring to the crank sensor etc, engine loom

as you could of damaged something like them

smitsturbo

i already have checked all that

would an imobiliser imobilise a fuel pump & stop spark but still turn the engine over???

rapidcossie

crashed it first day?

sorry to hear that mate.

xr4x4rs

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immobiliser yes

but dpends on who wired it, could do starter,coil or fuke pump aor al 3 or just 2 lol

but if your not getting fuel pump or spark then im sure if the ecu hasnt picked up a crank sensor signal then they wont work well spark wise anyhow

fuel pump could be split wires when the exhauts come off etc

Richie.

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The engine cranking, ie starter motor solenoid supply is totally independent of the ECU. It is from the car loom

So the engine will turn over without the ECU even being in the car


When you put the ignition on does the fuel pump prime for a few seconds or does it stay on ?

smitsturbo

neither!

Richie.

iTrader: (5)

Did the whole exhaust come off ?

Have you checked the fuel pump wiring under the boot floor ?

Stoo

Gutted for you mate You'll get it sorted though.

smitsturbo

the egsaust was pushed under the car which then pushed the engine up out of the rubber mount,

i have gave the wiring a check & it all looks fine but why both no fuel or spark?

i have a mates cossie thats been getting robbed for bits so i'll try the crank sensor tomorow but if anybody has any other ideas??

Moonstone Mart

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have you tried the inertia switch inside the spare wheel well?


Mart.

BigErn

Inertia switch in the spare wheel well would be first to try mate. Give it a go and let us know.

smitsturbo

as said in the beggining, the switch has been done, but surely thats just a fuel cutoff not a spark cutoff

BigErn

Never read it properly, sorry mate.

No spark and no fuel? It hasnt bollocksed whatever alarm system you have on by any chance?

SS1

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thats some shunt to push up the engine via the xzorst mate

i would get it to a wheel alignment shop asap and get it checked out

smitsturbo

right after checking the crank sensor, all the wiring under the bonnet & underneath about 4 times, removing the ecu & refitting it, checking all the fuses & relays under the bonnet theres still no spark or fuel pump,. so im away to put it back to the garage that fitted the imobiliser & alarm ( about 3 miles away)

unless theres anything else you know of before i start spending???

rapidcossie

its exhaust not egsaust.

smitsturbo

thanks thats great

ur car looked lovely today in aberdeen

mechanic28

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sorry to hear tis fella!in hinsight might of been worth getting used to 350bhp cossie first rather then giving it large straight away! u say the engine was forced up!thats takes some force to do that!!have a look around make sure no wires are trapped, broke or been pulled out of any of the plugs in the engine bay!

grsford

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shit luck mate will needs pics

have a good look at all the wiring earths etc also on the engine wiring loom check that you have 12v feeds to both of the fuses also try your ecu in another car?

smitsturbo

my ecu has an ahmed bayjoo stg 3 chip so i doubt it would work in my mates standard cossie even though its been getting robbed for the last 2 days

grsford

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dont matter what chip it has in it does it make the fuel pump prime is all your looking for are you getting power to both the yellow relays on the engine bay wiring loom?

mechanic28

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i would not swap the ecus just yet as u may have a wire earthing out somewhere that will fry his ecu as well

grsford

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i meant try his ecu in a working car

mechanic28

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Lambchop

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shame that you bumped it mate but its a lesson for all! 2wd cossies can bite HARD!

any pics of the car? where is it from etc?

good luck!

ps this is a 4 door family car for the impending new one eh? lol

smitsturbo

sorted now as there was a blown fuse hidden behind the dash for the immobiliser or something, she lives on anyway

i'll get some pictures up tonight

Lambchop

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nice one mate!

wanna come take me for a spin?

might encourage me to get my wallet out

KSA-Cossie

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Bit of good news anyway m8, piiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiics

stevemex

Cool glad you got it going i havnt a clue about alarms at least you got your headlight fixed ha ha.

smitsturbo

i'll get a headlight for you through the week mate, cheers

forgot to say that when i got the cossie back up & running i hit a feasant & smashed the headlight