SapphyMike

Thinking of getting a bike at some point.

Never ridden one before, but the lure of something around 600cc appeals to me.

any tips etc on doing the direct access and what not?

the original

do DA before october.
600cc is plenty
then do a saferider

Alps Pacino

suzuki sv650, suzuki bandit 600, honda hornet 600, personally i'd recomend something sitty up as you will enjoy it more because there far easier to ride than a 600 sports bike imo

foreigneRS

if you fancy it, just do it. and do it sooner rather than later as it will get harder to pass (not necessarily a bad thing, but will be more expensive) and DAS courses are getting fully booked

joel_winders

i wouldn't advise getting on a 600cc super bike after passing your test unless you get it restricted, then get it unrestricted when you've got used to it a bit, nothing worse than binning one, its not like a bump in a car, one drop can effectivly mean a bent frame which would be a write off !

SapphyMike

Ta guys..

i'd get a 400cc, but i think i'm too big for one.. its only for a bit of fun / commute.. but i dont want anything gay lol

foreigneRS

no such thing as a 600cc super bike - 600's are not that powerful, unless you are really revving them. it's litre sports bikes and above that can be very sensitive to the throttle.

there are plenty of 600's that are fast enough without being mental - as mentioned above, bandit, hornet, fazer etc. anything smaller than 600 is too small for a bloke

TIFF

New R6

Chip

iTrader: (3)

600cc is MORE than enough to be learning with (learning as learning to ride fast, not passing your test I mean)

Personally though Id go for a retro cool ZXR750 from the early nineties or similar:

mrjenrst

mike i have a nice little 400 that might be for sale in the near future

A 400 for a year get no-claim's down and a bit of experience of sport's bike riding without the possibility of low/high siding.

Alps Pacino

The new r6 does 175mph thats pretty super imo especially for someone who has less than a weeks experience on a bike

Lee Reynolds

Get a 600. Fook a 400 off or anything like it. Youll only try to make a 400 do what it cant. Dont wind the throttle on until you can ride propely, its THAT SIMPLE beleive it or not!

Lee Reynolds

tBH if i was after another bike it would be something like alps

Alps Pacino

I had it out for the first time today, and the difference between my gsxr600 to the z1000 is unreal the torque the thou has is mental, giving it a little licking off the lights ended up on 1 wheel lol

Lee Reynolds

it looks different but awesome!

foreigneRS

yes, if you rev it hard. they don't have enough low down torque to be a problem to the inexperienced with a slight slip of the wrist

exactly - litre bikes have torque that 600's do not, and it's that torque that causes the trouble imo

mrjenrst

Horses for course's mate.
Tbh personaly i'd have a thou v-twin.
I got the 400 for a cheap commuter, and the insurance is 110 a year, it's not a rocket but it's no slouch neither.

It's an ex-racebike fully spec'd and it does go, it surprised me tbh.
140 easy, lift the front in 1st and 2nd.
And well slingable round the bend's.

People love the kudos of having a litre bike and the pub talk, but how many can actually say they can USE all of the bike's power range?
Very very few.

A well set up 400 can upset many BIG BIKE riders, that have the massive bhp, i've done it myself.

So a big cc bike DOES NOT mean a faster or better rider.
It only matter's on a track or in the pub

foreigneRS

me too - although the original calls it a tractor fucker will respect it's authority when it canes his r6 around snetty in a couple of weeks

SapphyMike

LOL.

MrJen - PM me a price please dude!

Dannn

Yeah - don't bother with a 400 - well underpowered.

600 a minimum.....

There are so many older bikes for sell now that are worth a punt and not the end of the world if you drop the fucker. How about an old FZR600, cheap a chips and a bucket loads of spares available....

I'm thinking of getting another bike if I can find one at the right price - RG500, old retro square 4 - 2 stroke. Four noisey smoking exhausts is proper environmentally friendly - NOT!LOL

SapphyMike

what make is an FZR600?

SapphyMike

s'ok - found it - Yamaha - looks nice hmmmm

Any decent places to do the DA with? How much is it?

kiddie

my uncle has a RD500LC thats in Marlborgh (sp) race colours thats been only done a few thousand miles, its mad power delivery!

kiddie

I sold this over Xmas to a stealer dealer for £1100 as I was desperate

1st bike, I rode a 125 years ago but this was my first proper road bike. It was perfect to learn on, and did get along well if you got the revs up

SapphyMike

that looks sweet!

kiddie

it was, I miss it atm! going to save and pick up another over winter. Either k4GSXR1000 or R1

NUTTIN RILLA

Where the best place to get leathers and stuff?

x-172

1 of these its what you want to be aiming for

not as soon as you've passed your test of course

Alps Pacino

I am starting to think that a dedicated track bike is the way forward

x-172

you can get some good bargains from j+s accessories if you keep an eye on their site.

NUTTIN RILLA

Got a link?

Dannn

Exactly - Fun!!

I rode an RG500 a few times about 14 years. One minute I was grinning ear to ear trying to keep the front wheel on the ground. The next I would be shitting a brick trying to stop the thing or trying to keep focused as it would start wobbling at any speed over 120!lol I kindly blew it up for mymate eventually. He got it fixed and sold it before it injured anyone!lol

x-172

http://www.jsaccessories.com/

https://secure.jandsclothing.co.uk//

SapphyMike

LOL.. sounds mad Dannn!

whats the DA cost?

mrjenrst

Cos they're wank

Right a 400 compared to a 600 power wise is less but as a new rider a 400 WILL ALWAYS be a better choice.
They're more nimble and easyer to ride. The price you pay is less and unless you have an off you will get virtually what you paid for it back because of the young/a1 licence.

A zxr400 is 62bhp an fzr600 is around 85 bhp but heavyer and harder to turn.
400 less insurance and 1000's more part's around.

Mike, ring russ at rsj out at dunswell. He is a1 for bike training, and a bloody nice bloke

320 bhp

go for it mate ive been past 3 weeks did direct access,do theory first,then cbt then i did 12 hour lesson 2 full days then test on the friday cost £500 tops

get a r6 thats what ive bought loving it

NUTTIN RILLA

Cheers bud, theres one not that far from me too

x-172

happy shoppin

Dannn

Really - I thought the one I owned in early nineties seemed pretty good and I hever had issues with its performance or turning it. Pissed all over 400's I met on roads including round the twisties. Have you ridden one ?

I think an FRZ600 is a good bike for the cash at the moment. Plus a few have been used for track day bikes and come with a few goodies and spares...

If 60hp is all your after then I would buy an RGV250 or RS250 as its something different...

Lee Reynolds

Mike i know a top place to do DA but youd have to travel over here from Hull.