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Old 23-04-2008, 10:07 PM
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Default Diesel V's Petrol--Whats cheaper to run NOW

A while ago it used to be cheaper to run a Diesel than a petrol.......

Whats the score now........ Would you buy a petrol over a diesel car???

Just got me thinking earlier.........as i filled up my LPG Audi
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I just went from a C230 Kompressor Merc to a 1.8D Escort van, hoooooooooooooooring cheaper... Don't think it's quite the same performance though

0-60 Get bored counting...
0-90 Good luck

Not the comparison you were looking for i'm sure but it is saving me a heap of money to buy a Cossie
Old 24-04-2008, 08:57 AM
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an eassy one to work out how much is diesel per litre and how much is petrol at the moment i have no idea as i never look if the car needs fuel i just fill it up at the closest fuel station at the time pay and drive off

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Good point - but it all depends on the milages you do. All i know it cost me Ł62 to fill up my Golf diesel - Ł62 what a fookn joke.
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Originally Posted by Bobby Singh
Good point - but it all depends on the milages you do. All i know it cost me Ł62 to fill up my Golf diesel - Ł62 what a fookn joke.
Yep it's disgusting isn't it?

Last time i filled up the Merc i thought i would limit the fill to Ł60 but thought it would click around Ł56ish but i had to STOP filling at Ł60!!!
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I'd say for short journies around town etc., petrol would be cheaper. For the longer trips, definitely diesel.

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Originally Posted by Bobby Singh
Good point - but it all depends on the milages you do. All i know it cost me Ł62 to fill up my Golf diesel - Ł62 what a fookn joke.
47.78 to fill my poo us to the brim last night 44.28 litres has a 45 litre tank did 490 miles on that so that works out at 9.75 pence per mile
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Originally Posted by Mitsy FQ
47.78 to fill my poo us to the brim last night 44.28 litres has a 45 litre tank did 490 miles on that so that works out at 9.75 pence per mile
What is that you're driving?
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my worse fill up price was on the way too wales land cruiser amazon 90 litre tank diesel towing two jet skis 70 litre tank on one 50 litre on the other + 4 20 lire jerry cans total price Ł418 got a lecture from jobsworth at the station that i needed a licence to have that much fuel this did not include the two stroke oil that the jet ski's used
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Originally Posted by Mitsy FQ
47.78 to fill my poo us to the brim last night 44.28 litres has a 45 litre tank did 490 miles on that so that works out at 9.75 pence per mile
Impressive - Im currently doing 500 miles per week
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Originally Posted by lowsonae86
What is that you're driving?
for the last twoo weeks I have been driving a toyota prius or poous i have called it
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Ah i seeeee

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Originally Posted by Mitsy FQ
my worse fill up price was on the way too wales land cruiser amazon 90 litre tank diesel towing two jet skis 70 litre tank on one 50 litre on the other + 4 20 lire jerry cans total price Ł418 got a lecture from jobsworth at the station that i needed a licence to have that much fuel this did not include the two stroke oil that the jet ski's used

WHat sort of licence - a HGV one? You should of told him to cunt off and slapped some hard cash in his face
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i laugh at comments about how much it is to fill up.

i had a mate a few years ago who'd put a tenner in his mk2 fiesta and say "look! LOOK! ged, half a tank!! not many cars get half a tank from a tenner!"

?!?!? lol the size of your tank doesnt relate to mpg LOL!!

like when people say "it only cost me Ł30 to fill up HEHEHEHE" !! that doesnt mean you get any more of less mpg than someone elses who's cost Ł60 to fill up?!?!
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Originally Posted by Graceland
WHat sort of licence - a HGV one? You should of told him to cunt off and slapped some hard cash in his face
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Originally Posted by Bobby Singh
Impressive - Im currently doing 500 miles per week
10 k and my poo us is yours lol
This week I am driving the poous aggressively i suspect it will drop to around 40 -45 mpg they aren't slow off the mark using constant variable transmission and the 1500 cc petrol engine and massive torque from the elctric motor are both used when accelerating so it has two engines when needed
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Originally Posted by foreverwhite
i laugh at comments about how much it is to fill up.

i had a mate a few years ago who'd put a tenner in his mk2 fiesta and say "look! LOOK! ged, half a tank!! not many cars get half a tank from a tenner!"

?!?!? lol the size of your tank doesnt relate to mpg LOL!!

like when people say "it only cost me Ł30 to fill up HEHEHEHE" !! that doesnt mean you get any more of less mpg than someone elses who's cost Ł60 to fill up?!?!
Very valid point there but it does feel slightly when it costs less to fill
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Originally Posted by foreverwhite
i laugh at comments about how much it is to fill up.

i had a mate a few years ago who'd put a tenner in his mk2 fiesta and say "look! LOOK! ged, half a tank!! not many cars get half a tank from a tenner!"

?!?!? lol the size of your tank doesnt relate to mpg LOL!!

like when people say "it only cost me Ł30 to fill up HEHEHEHE" !! that doesnt mean you get any more of less mpg than someone elses who's cost Ł60 to fill up?!?!
the size of your tank does affect mpg due to the weight 90 litres is twice as much as 45 and is therefore twice the weight you are halling up them there hills

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Originally Posted by Mitsy FQ
the size of your tank does affect mpg due to the weight
Hardly, unless you're driving an F1 car
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Originally Posted by lowsonae86
Hardly, unless you're driving an F1 car
i stand by my statement weight is everything bit like those people who by the lightest latest super bike 160 kg then sit on it and the bike now weighs 460 kg
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Originally Posted by Mitsy FQ
i stand by my statement weight is everything bit like those people who by the lightest latest super bike 160 kg then sit on it and the bike now weighs 460 kg
Yeah that is true like but for every day cars, i don't think mpg will be greately effected by your fuel weight to be honest. Maybe tiny but hardly noticable...
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Originally Posted by lowsonae86
Yeah that is true like but for every day cars, i don't think mpg will be greately effected by your fuel weight to be honest. Maybe tiny but hardly noticable...
on a small cc low power out put car weight seriously affects mpg
as we know power out puts on modern run of the mill cars have doubled since the early 80's but performance hasn't due to the weight of the cars doubling with safety features and gadgets all modern fuel eco friendly cars have huge amounts spent on weight saving as do performance cars like the evo and scoobies

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Originally Posted by Mitsy FQ
on a small cc low power out put car weight seriously affects mpg
We could go back and fore with this all day...

Yes it will effect but i fill mine up every time just to save going to the petrol station all the time

Every 5-7 days with the Merc
Every 2 weeks with the van
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even with the continuing price increases its by far cheaper dependent on vehicle to run a diesel compared to petrol. i run a escort turbo diesel run about and i am getting 500 miles to a tank, another qusetion does anyone know anything about diesel tuning isn it worth it? the escort runs mechanical injection
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Overall I think it's got to be close when you take into account overall running costs.

An important factor to remember is that when the modern diesels go wrong they are invariably more expensive than petrols to fix! Just had some warranty work done on a 55 plate X-type Diesel [yes, the bodykitted mondeo] and it needed new injectors. Their bill would have been over Ł2000.

How much would a similar thing cost on a petrol? Half that?

So all that money you save in a years diesel motoring could be wiped out in an instant.
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well a decent mid sie saloon driven carefully will do 35mpg on petrol IMO. Petrol is around 108p per litre

So,( 108 * 4.546 ) / 35 = 14p per mile

Now I gues its safe to say that same car on diesel will do around 45mpg combined,with diesel at 117p

So (117 *4.546 ) / 45 = 11.8p per mile 272.31

now contrast that with the above petrol car doing around 30mpg on lpg, at 60p per litre

SO now we have (60 * 4.546 ) / 30 = 9.07p per mile.

The governmnt will fuck us on lpg eventually tho, lets be honest but its a good ride in the mid term

To answer the OP,derv is still cheaper

Also bear in mind what youre paying, I bought an lpg car for 100 quid with 8 month mot on it, if youre paying out for the conversion you may take more time than you think to break even, same if a diesel model costs more than petrol new, or has higher residuals
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Originally Posted by Paddy
Overall I think it's got to be close when you take into account overall running costs.

An important factor to remember is that when the modern diesels go wrong they are invariably more expensive than petrols to fix! Just had some warranty work done on a 55 plate X-type Diesel [yes, the bodykitted mondeo] and it needed new injectors. Their bill would have been over Ł2000.

How much would a similar thing cost on a petrol? Half that?

So all that money you save in a years diesel motoring could be wiped out in an instant.
more like a quater of that
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One thing i always think is, although the fuel prices are rising at a ridiculous rate, everybody is in the same boat...
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Well if diesel costs 1.15 per litre

and petrol costs 1.05 per litre doesn't that mean that a petrol car is 9% cheaper for each litre

So if your diesel does 45mpg you petrol would need to do within 9% of thay to be more cost effective (fuel -wise) which is give or take 41mpg

My petrol 2.0 does 30mpg so i'd still go with diesels for day to day running but dont think things costs more anyways? And like Paddy said don't they cost loads to fix?

Plus my car is alot more fun to drive than a silly diesel!!
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Just seen what you put alistair quite similair

And we both come back woth the same result
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imo most people with petrol cars just drive them most people with a diesel tend to drive more economical 40-45 mpg is what i got out of my golf tdi when i drove it like my petrol
lets face it none of us are really bothered about how much fuel we burn in litres poluting the atmosphere what bothers us is the amount of money it now cost us to burn that fuel.We cannot control the amount it cost us the only thing we can control to reduce this excessive rip off i s the amount we use

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if youve got a diesel doing 40mpg, and a petrol doing 36mpg, cost is roughly the same with prices the way they are.
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Originally Posted by foreverwhite
if youve got a diesel doing 40mpg, and a petrol doing 36mpg, cost is roughly the same with prices the way they are.
Which is what I said
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Originally Posted by alan12112
Which is what I said
which is probaly why the tax man has a higher fuel duty on diesel money grabbing twat
if every one in the country parked their cars up and used no fuel and got a push bike you would find that the tax man would have aŁ3000 road fund licence on push bikes next lol

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people need to stop worrying about the cost of juice.

if they dont get the money from juice, they'll get it from somewhere else.

i say they should double the income tax for Joe Dackys PMSL
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Originally Posted by foreverwhite
people need to stop worrying about the cost of juice.

if they dont get the money from juice, they'll get it from somewhere else.

i say they should double the income tax for Joe Dackys PMSL
No, we just need a government who doesnt haemorrhage money from every orifice on pointless campaigns like supporting chavy teenage sluts who cant keep in in their knickers, lazy trash who cant be arsed working, supporting the americans in blowing up this years arbitrary country.........
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Originally Posted by alistairolsen
No, we just need a government who doesnt haemorrhage money from every orifice on pointless campaigns like supporting chavy teenage sluts who cant keep in in their knickers, lazy trash who cant be arsed working, supporting the americans in blowing up this years arbitrary country.........
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Did no one watch that program the other day on tv it said we have 10 million legal immigrants and rising
only 700 thousand are at work and the rest are on benefits the main reason for the rising costs


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