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Old Apr 22, 2008 | 07:20 PM
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how much do they cost ruthly with a dorm and windows etc

can you do it on a council house
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Old Apr 22, 2008 | 07:31 PM
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depends if you can get permission really
then look out as the skys the limit

don't forget you need to do walls and fire safety and access etc to factor in before you start putting in a stronger floor etc and you've also got to get the rest of the structure restructured to support the shell of the foor

neighbour done it for just under £16k with a toilet and shower in there as well as extrending the foor to be square at the rear
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For a builder to do the lot its rarely under 18k for a semi.
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Old Apr 22, 2008 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Lee Reynolds
For a builder to do the lot its rarely under 18k for a semi.

change your builder
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Old Apr 22, 2008 | 08:12 PM
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cousin is getting his done for around £20k on a 4 bed det.
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Old Apr 22, 2008 | 08:27 PM
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as said ,propper regulations job ,18k+





oh and i am a builder as is Lee

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Originally Posted by danneth
change your builder
i think lee is spot on,he aint talking a ramsey ladder and a floor for your
Scalextrics!!

costs a fortune for the insulation required on its own!
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Old Apr 22, 2008 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by danneth
change your builder
I think your find lee is a builder?
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Originally Posted by danneth
change your builder

Change me?
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Old Apr 22, 2008 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by dovboy
i think lee is spot on,he aint talking a ramsey ladder and a floor for your
Scalextrics!!

costs a fortune for the insulation required on its own!
Spot on, its rediculous the insulation in it now. Folk dont realise when they get the quote theres about 1500 quids worth in it plus fitting!
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Old Apr 22, 2008 | 09:32 PM
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depends if things like the floor joists need strengthening, if purlins need cutting, how complex the stair shape is, how big it is, how much work needs doing on the upstairs to fit a stair in etc
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Originally Posted by Lee Reynolds
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sorry didn't know you was a builder lee.. but IMO for a basic loft conversion 18k is very expensive, but everyone prices are different
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Originally Posted by Lee Reynolds
Spot on, its rediculous the insulation in it now. Folk dont realise when they get the quote theres about 1500 quids worth in it plus fitting!

lack of info on the quote ?
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i done the plans for one over a double garage at a place in suffolk, it was a piece of piss, it did include a stair, and the cheapest price we could get was £35k!
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Originally Posted by danneth
lack of info on the quote ?
Dont need to spec it into a quote when its clearly indicated on a detailed drawing
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Originally Posted by Lee Reynolds
Dont need to spec it into a quote when its clearly indicated on a detailed drawing

so do folk realise or not then p.s if your a builder why aren't you using me as your sparks
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Originally Posted by danneth
sorry didn't know you was a builder lee.. but IMO for a basic loft conversion 18k is very expensive, but everyone prices are different

Its not expensive in any way at all. I dont know where you get prices in your head from, but do a realistic take off from a loft conversion drawing and tell me where the profit comes from once everyone and everythings been paid for.
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Originally Posted by Lee Reynolds
Its not expensive in any way at all. I dont know where you get prices in your head from, but do a realistic take off from a loft conversion drawing and tell me where the profit comes from once everyone and everythings been paid for.

i get my prices from my dads company, who specalises in this kind of work
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Originally Posted by danneth
so do folk realise or not then p.s if your a builder why aren't you using me as your sparks

People(customers) realise there is XX amount of kingspan in it as they see the drawing, but they dont realise what it costs. 100mm kingspan retails at about 35 quid per 2.4 x 1.2 sheet!
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Originally Posted by danneth
i get my prices from my dads company, who specalises in this kind of work
Well if hes doing them cheaper than this good luck to him...
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Old Apr 22, 2008 | 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Lee Reynolds
Well if hes doing them cheaper than this good luck to him...

you only need luck when your starting out not when your established, im not saying there all cheaper lee some people like to have this and that obviously houses are very different in size, but from the first post just sounds like a basic one with a dorm and window
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Old Apr 22, 2008 | 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by danneth
you only need luck when your starting out not when your established, im not saying there all cheaper lee some people like to have this and that obviously houses are very different in size, but from the first post just sounds like a basic one with a dorm and window

Yeah but basic ones arent that much cheaper than a slightly more complex one as its the actual outlay of getting the loft habitable and getting access. Once all thats done then anything can be done at reasonable cost.

Anyways if hes happy with that then fine! Is he vat reg?
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Old Apr 22, 2008 | 10:09 PM
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not all houses are suited to it, i've looked at a few for feasibility and they are either too small, or roof too shallow, or too much structural work required, or losing a small bedroom to fit in a stair meaning gaining a crap-sized loft room wouldnt be worth it.

most can be converted though. as long as its not a flat-roofed house haha

also i've had to do a few plans for people to get retrospective building regs where they've had builders who didnt tell them about regs, and its a real PITA to put them right usually!
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we've got a massive loft space, but there is no where to put the stairs other than through the toilet or the box room so it's going to have to be a ladder and floorboards for now
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Old Apr 23, 2008 | 01:36 PM
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there is things you can get which are halfway between a stair and a ladder, so they are easier for getting up than a ladder and dont take up a load of space. also there is alternative tread staircases which save space, but i wouldnt like to navigate one after a few drinks. otherwise its spiral, but they aint cheap....

one of the problems with the stair is making it land somewhere in the loft which has 2m headroom. and quite often i have had people want to have 2 bedrooms up there but they dont realise the stair has to land between the 2 rooms. you dont want to be walking through one room to get to the other.
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