R5FORD

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what do people think about the ST? im thinking about buying one in a couple of weeks but whats peoples overall opinion on them?

cheers

l0ubie

not my cup of tea!
heard that the fiesta is suppose to be just as good!

Stu.H

I went in a standard one, was unimpressed with the power, but could tell the handling was awesome.

I'd certainly get one if I had the wonga, and get it remapped, bigger IC etc

R5FORD

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so basically its got great handaling but shit power

i dont really want to mod it as iv got the cossie for speed.

Mike C

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The handling was fantastic for an FWD car. Wasn't that quick and felt even slower. Didn't excite at all. Felt well-screwed together, but had several problems with the ESP and the transmission in the early days, and for what it is, I think it's WAY too thirsty

R5FORD

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on average how many mpg?

PKA

Go for the Code:red 285 kit its the remap + exhaust + Induction kit for about Ł1,200 and that will give you 285 / 320+ lbs, and they are great cars to drive imo.

(also has a 1 year warranty on the parts if you engine goes wrong.)

Here is mine with the decals as well (Not everyones cuppa)






http://www.codered-performance.com/uk/shop/

PKA

I can get 32mpg but most of time its around 26/28 ...

pani_k

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what do you want the ST for? a sporty runaround? another toy?

FasterFords

Love mine, got it remapped with a dreamscience, so its around 260-270bhp and really flys now.

It is a bit heavy on fuel, 24-26mpg, but I don't do a great mileage, so I don't care

R5FORD

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nice motor mate and not bad mpg either

R5FORD

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run around really.. dont really fancy starting the cossie up everytime to pop to the shops anymore

Mike C

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I was only averaging about 24, which is only an average of about 2mpg more than the 6.0 Monaro I have now

Benni

Of course it's not, the Focus is a much better car.


Benni.

PKA

They are really reliable, the 3 main remaps are Code:red, Dream Sceince, Bluefin

They are all pretty much the same. befits are...

-> DS - you have 5 lives to reuse it. (Can be a second hand bargin on ebay)
-> CR - Only one to have a warranty just in case.
-> BF - Good history and been around the longest.

PKA

I agree I had the fiesta before, its really nice but the Focus is so much more.

Mike C

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The Fiesta is a better driving machine, it has a sensational chassis! Beats my previous favourite, the old DC2 Integra as the best handling FWD car ever for me

Just needs a bit more oomph! But the chassis can take it

R5FORD

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i dont think im going to be modding it in anyway.. at the max might just powder coat the wheels

Benni

I would of thought the Focus was the better driving machine, How come you say the Fieasta mate? The Focus is quicker and I assume it handles better?

Cheers, Benni.

pani_k

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fair enough. just running through my head a few of the options, there's the mazda 3 MPS which I think is the Duratec 2.3 motor with a turbo producing 256bhp. Saw one @ Power Eng but you can only get them in 5 door but they look pretty decent and not your average runaround box. Same sort of money I think maybe a bit cheaper for the mazda. Usual sort of BMW 3 series for that money but probably a bit boring compared to the ST.

You could get a Focus RS for the same money, maybe less and its still an RS and going to hold its value better than the ST will. Type R Civic, not a fan of those but again front wheel drive, hot hatch

R5FORD

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nah wana keep it ford mate.. dont ask me why as i honestly dont know but i really like the focus for some reason

Mike C

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The Focus is quicker and comes with more spec, but the Fiesta is a better handler. It's very rare that I truly like anything FWD, but the Fiesta ST is a gem. Spec it up to around the 200BHP and I'd say you've got a truly great little driving tool there

and while I've no experience of the ST185 version myself, when it was tested in EVO magazine a few months back, they said pretty much the same as I have, and that it should have came with even more grunt 'cos the chassis is just awesome

Benni

Fair enough, I wouldn't of thought the Fiesta handled better but I have not driven both so will have to take your word for it.

Benni.

pani_k

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Well you have the Focus RS and ST and given the choice, I'd take the RS every time. There's always a mondy ST if you fancy something bigger either diesel if you dont want the mpg to hurt or the petrol model

Mike C

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For a daily driver, I'd choose the ST. The RS is far more "hardcore"

R5FORD

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yh but then i have to import it over here etc so looks like the ST wins

Benni

Appart from perfomance, the ST is a much better car than the RS. Much nicer interior and build quality and so on...

Benni.

Dave Henshall

coming from a stg 3 escos, the std focus st is quicker in real terms, no lag, boost at 1500 rpm, and chuckable handling. the cossie had that cossie rush at 4K when it came on boost and if 'felt' quick , but you get the same rush as soon as you remap the st with a Ł400 haldheld bit of kit like the dreamscience , you dont even have to open the bonet, get on your knees or need any tools ffs!! plug in under the dash, press a couple of buttons as prompted on scrren and wait 5 mins, job done.

really pleased with mine had it just over a year now, the ONLY thing i'd say is a downside is the fuel consumptiopn, but it is a heavy car and is a 2.5L turbo, so what dya expect.

Dave Henshall

R5FORD,

you can even use the dreamsciecne in OZ, the st is badges as an XR5 over there

l0ubie

see!!!

RWD_cossie_wil

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Having been in a few ST's I have to say I think they are a fantastic car, but you HAVE to have it in orange, and it HAS to have the leather seats option, and the self leveling xenons

Mike C

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That's what I had. I only like the look of them in Orange. It makes the car! Performance Blue is nice, but too subtle. Don't like any of the other colours at all

Benni

The focus is still a better car in standard form.

andyt

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nice cars but Ł300 to tax a year is a right con

Diseasel

Best car i've owned without a doubt, i've got the dreamscience remap and lowered it on Wolf springs..still a great FWD shopper which is also great fun .

focuschivvy

go for an rs

but heres my old mans ST to help you decide.....

carmadhainesy

That blue ST looks very nice...

Mark Shead

I like mine even better with 280hp and rising

Mark

focuschivvy

that blue one has 360