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Old 13-04-2008, 05:49 PM
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hiya guys havnt had the escos long but after having a 200+ rst, 300 bhp in this isnt enough in the escos. anyone know much about these black injectors? read about them the other day in fast ford and im really interested just wondering if anyone has them fitted and what power? already run greens 3bar map sensor ect. i know the head gaskets gunna need changing but i need more power. dont we all ha ha! thanks matt.
Old 13-04-2008, 06:10 PM
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siemens black are awesome injectors, Bosch are old technology and the blacks are newer technology - (ps. before anyone moans i'm not saying Bosch are crap!)

The Siemens have a better spray pattern than bosch, all round a better injector

i've got 55lb Siemens blacks, but depending on what power you want depends on which injectors rate you go for; to be honest if i were you i'd go for the 83lb injectors, future proof then!
Old 13-04-2008, 08:48 PM
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Got Them In Mine, A1 Rally Sport Built The Engine Last Year And Fitted These Injectors, Steve Estimated 430 Bhp,

Runs A Lot Better Than It Did With The Greys In

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Originally Posted by dave green
Got Them In Mine, A1 Rally Sport Built The Engine Last Year And Fitted These Injectors, Steve Estimated 430 Bhp,

Runs A Lot Better Than It Did With The Greys In

Dave
What turbo do you have Dave?
Old 13-04-2008, 09:30 PM
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i have ordered some for my car. only heard good good things about them.
Old 13-04-2008, 09:59 PM
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Got sume for mine and expecting a nice 370 / 380 horse
Old 14-04-2008, 08:05 AM
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Keep thinking of ordering some for mine, but do i fit a .63 exhaust housing as well ??? mine has 400s and a .55 at the moment and made 372bhp on a DD RR.

Steve.

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You do all know that bosch and siemens are the same company?

The newer injectors were simply re branded as siemens.
Old 14-04-2008, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by cossie4i
Keep thinking of ordering some for mine, but do i fit a .63 exhaust housing as well ??? mine has 400s and a .55 at the moment and made 372bhp on a DD RR.

Steve.
yes you do fit the .63. hth
Old 14-04-2008, 08:57 AM
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me personally i would find a cheat housing (wrc) which were a .55 housing and use that ...... best of both worlds then ,not much lag and a quick spool up without running out of puff higher up in the range
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Originally Posted by Garage19
You do all know that bosch and siemens are the same company?

The newer injectors were simply re branded as siemens.
are you sure they are the same company? who bought who out?
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Siemens own bosch.
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that must of been one hell of a byout LOL
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T38 turbo fitted

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Got Them In Mine, A1 Rally Sport Built The Engine Last Year And Fitted These Injectors, Steve Estimated 430 Bhp,

Runs A Lot Better Than It Did With The Greys In

Dave
What turbo do you have Dave?
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i have them and have around 420..

its350bhp atw
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mine is at nms now having some fitted then mapped. I'll know if it was worth it Friday!
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