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Old 08-04-2008, 08:23 PM
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Default Max BHP on cosworth t3 turbo ?

tried the search function but 't3' is too short a search term to be searched for...

so as the thread title... whats the max bhp you could see using a cosworth t3?

thanks in advance
Old 08-04-2008, 08:31 PM
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thinks its around 320 on dark greens
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that would be running a fair bit of boost prob around 26psi ish
Old 08-04-2008, 08:32 PM
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cheers... its not actually going on a a YB engine, but just curious as to what he could be looking at producing if all goes perfectly to plan.
Old 08-04-2008, 08:58 PM
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one last question... are 2wd and 4wd t3 turbos the same spec?
Old 08-04-2008, 09:36 PM
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Old one of mine made 329bhp on greens and RS 500 cooler @ 23psi spike tailing off to 14psi.
Old 09-04-2008, 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by BigErn
Old one of mine made 329bhp on greens and RS 500 cooler @ 23psi spike tailing off to 14psi.
.........sorry mate but that just sounds wrong...................and Ben if it's not going in a cossie then how the fuck do we know what it'll make...???.............is it going in a.....mini.......a gsxr 1000.............a horse n kart......................
Old 09-04-2008, 07:17 AM
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on greens and 4wd cooler my 3wd car did 295 bhp 317 ft lb at 20 psi and yes a 4wd turbo is slightly bigger front housing iirc
Old 09-04-2008, 07:29 AM
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mine did 309bhp on greys with a 1.7bar spike tailing off to 1.5, now runs 1.9, tailing off to 1.7 so who knows lol
Old 09-04-2008, 08:00 AM
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Having spoken to Stu and him doing the chip on my car, peaking at around 26psi he is confident it can make a genuine 310bhp Ben

Mine is on 803's, 4x4 'cooler and Grp A Headgasket, everything else completely standard
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Originally Posted by Red16
one last question... are 2wd and 4wd t3 turbos the same spec?
The 4x4 T3 has a slightly bigger front wheel, to the 2wd
Old 09-04-2008, 12:19 PM
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Pete, I wasnt convinced by it either but I had a graph saying it was.
As long as my cars are set up fine I couldnt give a monkeys what the figures are anyhoo. Id have said it was more likely to be just over 300 on that one tbh. It used to shift canny though so that was fine by me. Lol.

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This for the ZT??
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Originally Posted by Jay.
on greens and 4wd cooler my 3wd car did 295 bhp 317 ft lb at 20 psi and yes a 4wd turbo is slightly bigger front housing iirc
3wd???????
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I think he asked this on my behalf. He's getting excited enough for the both of us!! lol


My spec is:
2.1 Zetec Turbo
Eagle Low comp pistons (About 8.5)
Eagle Steel H-Section Rods
arp conrod bolts
440cc/min Injectors
Hybrid Cosworth T3 with 360Bearing, I needed an extended actuator rod so I'm guessing it could be a 4x4
-31 actuator
3bar map
Pro Alloy front mount intercooler
Pro Alloy alloy rad
Cosworth fuel pump
Stage 2 CTS Gearbox
AP PAddle Clutch
Emerald ECU
Magnex 2.5" Bore Exhaust
Wideband Lambda
EGT

300bhp and similar torque is the target. Time will tell.
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I'm surprised by those figures, I've got a t3 on my 2 wheel drive and I'm fitting a pace rs500 intercooler, dark greens, 3 bar map sensor & Ahmed Bayoo stage 3 chip and I was hoping for 330bhp I've also got a panel filter & system on there and I'm going to be using Mark Shead to set it up, looks like I'm going to be disappointed
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I'm surprised by those figures, I've got a t3 on my 2 wheel drive and I'm fitting a pace rs500 intercooler, dark greens, 3 bar map sensor & Ahmed Bayoo stage 3 chip and I was hoping for 330bhp I've also got a panel filter & system on there and I'm going to be using Mark Shead to set it up, looks like I'm going to be disappointed
330bhp is not impossible but if it does it wont last very long
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Originally Posted by R6Franky
I think he asked this on my behalf. He's getting excited enough for the both of us!! lol


My spec is:
2.1 Zetec Turbo
Eagle Low comp pistons (About 8.5)
Eagle Steel H-Section Rods
arp conrod bolts
440cc/min Injectors
Hybrid Cosworth T3 with 360Bearing, I needed an extended actuator rod so I'm guessing it could be a 4x4
-31 actuator
3bar map
Pro Alloy front mount intercooler
Pro Alloy alloy rad
Cosworth fuel pump
Stage 2 CTS Gearbox
AP PAddle Clutch
Emerald ECU
Magnex 2.5" Bore Exhaust
Wideband Lambda
EGT

300bhp and similar torque is the target. Time will tell.

What cars this little lot in then? As if your from Shields I'll have to keep my eyes open for it
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Originally Posted by BigErn
Pete, I wasnt convinced by it either but I had a graph saying it was.
As long as my cars are set up fine I couldnt give a monkeys what the figures are anyhoo. Id have said it was more likely to be just over 300 on that one tbh. It used to shift canny though so that was fine by me. Lol.

i can vouch for that as the car in question i used to own and yes it did shift canny big time
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Originally Posted by hoylaE26
3wd???????

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Old 09-04-2008, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Pasty Palmer
I'm surprised by those figures, I've got a t3 on my 2 wheel drive and I'm fitting a pace rs500 intercooler, dark greens, 3 bar map sensor & Ahmed Bayoo stage 3 chip and I was hoping for 330bhp I've also got a panel filter & system on there and I'm going to be using Mark Shead to set it up, looks like I'm going to be disappointed
A well set up stage 3 car won't disappoint you m8,but you will want more power.
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When I spoke to Karl Norris about this he reccomended to get the
T3 upgraded to a 360 degree bearing and get the blades cutback... this should allow the turbo to last a lot longer.
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Originally Posted by milkman
What cars this little lot in then? As if your from Shields I'll have to keep my eyes open for it
Black Series 2. Its been a long time coming. Resto thread is coming to a close eventually. Its booked in at the electricians a week today for wiring and alarm. Run in asap for a full tune in Norwich by Dave at Emerald on the 16th May.

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Originally Posted by R6Franky
I think he asked this on my behalf. He's getting excited enough for the both of us!! lol


My spec is:
2.1 Zetec Turbo
JE Low comp pistons (About 8.5)
Eagle Steel H-Section Rods
arp conrod bolts
Rover M16 inlet manifold
Custom tubular exhaust manifold
440cc/min Injectors
Hybrid Cosworth T3 with 360Bearing, I needed an extended actuator rod so I'm guessing it could be a 4x4
-31 actuator
3bar map
Pro Alloy front mount intercooler
Pro Alloy alloy rad
Cosworth fuel pump
Stage 2 CTS Gearbox
AP PAddle Clutch
Emerald ECU
Magnex 2.5" Bore Exhaust
Wideband Lambda
EGT

300bhp and similar torque is the target. Time will tell.
edited a few things

Originally Posted by Charlie Chalk
This for the ZT??
yup

Originally Posted by pete mcrash
and Ben if it's not going in a cossie then how the fuck do we know what it'll make...???.............is it going in a.....mini.......a gsxr 1000.............a horse n kart......................
simple... i didnt ask what power it'd make on the engine i was thinking about... i just asked about how much bhp it could actually flow the air to produce, so what ever engine its bolted to wouldnt alter that figure... if it did compressor maps would be completely useless
Old 09-04-2008, 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman
What cars this little lot in then? As if your from Shields I'll have to keep my eyes open for it
he's got a thread on it in the resto section
Old 09-04-2008, 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Pasty Palmer
I'm surprised by those figures, I've got a t3 on my 2 wheel drive and I'm fitting a pace rs500 intercooler, dark greens, 3 bar map sensor & Ahmed Bayoo stage 3 chip and I was hoping for 330bhp I've also got a panel filter & system on there and I'm going to be using Mark Shead to set it up, looks like I'm going to be disappointed

Thats old money mate, people quoted that at Stg 3 330 bhp conversion when in reality it aint...

I am sure Mark will do the biz tho
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