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Old 09-04-2008 | 09:14 AM
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at the risk of over running Mike's thread, I've got more if you wanna see them... incredible cars!
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Originally Posted by Markb_s1
at the risk of over running Mike's thread, I've got more if you wanna see them... incredible cars!
Do it mate, Sure Mike won't mind!
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You asked for it!!!













what's left of the original car by the time they were finished with it????





bag tanks used to live in the tunnel..














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also... not quite space framed but one being built by a guy on turbosport..
















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I just like the car.

Has this ever been black, or is that another car that I saw down Southend?
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the gp5 one?

that's not finished yet..

there is another one that was being built which i think is finished but as for south end, i'd have no idea...
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Originally Posted by Markb_s1
the gp5 one?

that's not finished yet..

there is another one that was being built which i think is finished but as for south end, i'd have no idea...

I'm talking about Adrian's car (when it had a Cossie lump in)?
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for me!
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Stunning pics! Nice one Mark

Mike, have you come across Adrian's car on track in your Escort yet then?
Old 09-04-2008 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Dan
Stunning pics! Nice one Mark

Mike, have you come across Adrian's car on track in your Escort yet then?
No, read post No. 45 .
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
I'm talking about Adrian's car (when it had a Cossie lump in)?

according to turbo sport, it has been white for at least the last 12+ years ??? (as there are pics at brands still white with the blue stripe)
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Originally Posted by Jay.
one of the best threads in ages

What he said, Awesome pics
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Originally Posted by EsCosRacer
am IN LOVE with the spaceframe 1

are these bodykits still available ?

fraid not.. at least not easily.

there's a guy (also on turbosport) building one with carbon panels based on an original kit that was bought when they were still available so he may be able to sort you out if you want one. (and who doesn't!?!?!?) think he's in NZ though.

if i'd've known i could possibly get my hands on that it i wouldn't have gone for the group 2 zakspeed kit that i have.
then again.. mine only just fits the garage so would be looking at something considerably larger for the gp5 spec one.
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Originally Posted by Markb_s1
also... not quite space framed but one being built by a guy on turbosport..
















Where is that ? I see the RS1700 T in the background and there was a guy building one of those on here quite a while ago, somewhere abroad iirc

Excellent thread though, can't get over how wide those Zakspeeds were !
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think that one's in SA.
and yes, i believe that is a 1700t in the background. the bloke's obviously not shy with his cars!
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Got to be same bloke as I'm sure it was SA too.

The build on that 1700T was mental, how on earth he had managed to track down so many parts for a car that never really did much lol
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Thank god the new PF search engine works LOL

https://passionford.com/forum/showth...ghlight=rs1700
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escort mk.2's are THE best cars.
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Agreed, they are just VERY expensive lol
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lol, as you and i know.

but at least we have one.
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Originally Posted by dave cos4x4
lol, as you and i know.

but at least we have one.
I want one now!
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Originally Posted by dave cos4x4
lol, as you and i know.

but at least we have one.
Not if you have 4 doors. And if you have 2 doors,mk1's are better.
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Originally Posted by dave cos4x4
lol, as you and i know.

but at least we have one.
Old 09-04-2008 | 05:36 PM
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Dan,

get one, but you will spend Ł000's on it.

BRIGSPORT,

we have 2 door models,, and i well prefer mk.2's.
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Get one, but dont expect to have it built within 12 months, or even 2 years LOL

They are awesome cars but I refuse to get into huge debt over one so its done when its done
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
I just like the car.

Has this ever been black, or is that another car that I saw down Southend?
Always been white Mike from wot i can remember, but then again it has been 20yrs + since it first hit the streets.

Steve
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Originally Posted by JonnyBravo
, how on earth he had managed to track down so many parts for a car that never really did much lol

Because most of the 17 built up rally spec RS1700T's cars were taken to South Africa to compete in Non-Homologated rallies when the project was cancelled by Stuart Turner. They were VERY sucessful and it was a glimpse of what might have been.
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If the car has steel floors and most of its bodywork its a group 4 racer thats had the arches and turbo engine to move it up to Gp5.
The genuine Gp5 cars had an alluminum spaceframe and floors, the only orininal parts used where the roof and pillars, everything else was made. The fuel tanks where bladder bags that sat in the prop tunnel, they also used to have the oil tank in the passenger seat area ..all highly illegal now including the spaceframe.. rumours have it that Zakspeed are going to build one up again after the sucess they had with the Ludwigs Capri, the Wurth sponsored Championship winning car .. incidently the first Gp 5 Escort is the famous Alan Mann XOO in red and gold .. that had an electric fan blowing into the air box to call it a super charger and thus move it up to Gp 5 back in 68/69 ..

Adrian gave up racing because he wasnt enjoying it anymore, and solely does trackdays now ..hes a mechanicaly sympathetic driver as he still uses an english axle in it , albeit with Atlas side gears ... weight is probably around 800kg (est guess) shame hes not racing anymore .. be good to see the old gals winning outright again ..

Next year this one is coming out to play in the DMN championship ..
About as far as we can go without spaceframing and making the car illegal for most championships ... its basicly conforms to the old Gp4 regs but the engine would put it into Gp5 being a turbo unit.
That said the Hysterical Rallying elligibilty scrutineer would have a heart attack as theres not a lot of Gp4 rally parts used

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That is AWESOME
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Originally Posted by JonnyBravo
Got to be same bloke as I'm sure it was SA too.

The build on that 1700T was mental, how on earth he had managed to track down so many parts for a car that never really did much lol
Originally Posted by Markb_s1
think that one's in SA.
and yes, i believe that is a 1700t in the background. the bloke's obviously not shy with his cars!

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isnt that the one that says F**CKED on the head? from yeeeeeeears ago
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Originally Posted by EsCosRacer
is that a 1700T ??
Being built in South Africa and it is a RS1700T
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Originally Posted by retromotorsport
If the car has steel floors and most of its bodywork its a group 4 racer thats had the arches and turbo engine to move it up to Gp5.
The genuine Gp5 cars had an alluminum spaceframe and floors, the only orininal parts used where the roof and pillars, everything else was made. The fuel tanks where bladder bags that sat in the prop tunnel, they also used to have the oil tank in the passenger seat area ..all highly illegal now including the spaceframe.. rumours have it that Zakspeed are going to build one up again after the sucess they had with the Ludwigs Capri, the Wurth sponsored Championship winning car .. incidently the first Gp 5 Escort is the famous Alan Mann XOO in red and gold .. that had an electric fan blowing into the air box to call it a super charger and thus move it up to Gp 5 back in 68/69 ..

Adrian gave up racing because he wasnt enjoying it anymore, and solely does trackdays now ..hes a mechanicaly sympathetic driver as he still uses an english axle in it , albeit with Atlas side gears ... weight is probably around 800kg (est guess) shame hes not racing anymore .. be good to see the old gals winning outright again ..

Next year this one is coming out to play in the DMN championship ..
About as far as we can go without spaceframing and making the car illegal for most championships ... its basicly conforms to the old Gp4 regs but the engine would put it into Gp5 being a turbo unit.
That said the Hysterical Rallying elligibilty scrutineer would have a heart attack as theres not a lot of Gp4 rally parts used




















everytime i see this it just gets better Gary!
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Wow Gary, I was always impressed wth your work when I was a regular on TS. Haaven't seen much for ages but that is seriously impressive fab work
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i read somewhere about zakspeed rebuilding one - think it may have been an article in a german magazine or something. it may have been a capri.

if anyone goes to the 'ring, the zakspeed workshop is right there on the corner where the road through nuerburg joins the main road by the GP circuit and hotel. pop in and have a look if you can

check this one out on the karrusel



some pictures of a restored one here

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Best thread for AGES!!!
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Originally Posted by foreigneRS

some pictures of a restored one here

http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/1032052

That one looks like a converted Gp4 ... it still has its lower A pillars and chassis legs.

Got to say though ... Adrians car is up there with the Gp2/4/5 racers from the ETTC and the Supersaloons/Thunderloons of the 70/80's when racing was racing ... when a guy who built his car in the shed went up against works teams. And Zakspeed spanked BMW's arse with the Capris and Escorts ... the sight, the sound the smell of the Thundersaloons and the ETTC cars of the late 70's early 80's just cant be matched today with the BTTC etc ..

In the " loons " you had VW Beatles with F5000 chassis under them, 3 door Sierras, 6 linked and running Porsche V8's, Escorts with Hart420R's, Mantas with 7L 8's etc .. and in the ETCC you had " batmobiles" BMW's and Porsche's and Ford banging wing mirrors.

" what do you need to go racing in this championship ? "

" a big set of ...... balls"

I long for the day that Thundersaloons come back, Rob Crompton is trying to get it re-started and has tracked a few cars down, he owns the Vauxhall Belmont thundersaloon with the 7L chevy V8 and huge arches that raced back in the day, it still comes out, done some rounds with the DMN alongside Martin in his Rs500 and Tony Ryans Loon (allthough its hard to tell whos car is who's with those two they swap a lot ) .. allthough he normally covers all the cars in oil as it leaks ... a lot .

And Bernard still sprints his 2.6 Millington Diamond engine ex loon
http://www.srh-motorsport-photograph...p49257160.html

a Gp4 Zakspeed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aql4DvOc4XI

and onboard in a wet Berg Cup run
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkSAzILny3M
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Originally Posted by Dan
Best thread for AGES!!!
What he said



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