would you have this carried out, if you have just lowered your car on springs ?

my old man phoned a well known mini tuner who said to him this wasn,t required but I believe this is wrong

discuss please

 

Okay, so let me get this right, you take your suspension apart, remove an item, refit a different item and rebuild everything and people think that they are going to get everything back in EXACTLY the same place to within a 60th of a degree without use of some kind of alignment device.

Sorry, but it is not possible.

Yes, on a general, bog-standard car with a tolerance of +/- 1 degree, it would be within tolerance to just remove and refit a component, but as soon as you alter something (like putting a lowering spring kit on), you are significantly altering the suspension and steering geometry. Now, take into account the different initial camber angle you will be set @. On a 30mm drop, this could increase the camber by about 1-1.5 degrees. This would mean an alteration to the toe to compensate for any difference of toe-out in turn, or even for normal driving.

Sorry if this does not sound clear, but as it is late on a Friday night, I may edit later to sound clearer.

 

mate i fully agree with you, this is my thinking

 

what other things have been altered on the suspension side of the mini? are they really as adjustable as you think in standard for... eg an Evo
or is it like most cars where unless its got trick bits on all you can do is adust the tracking and possibly camber?

for the cost of it a check up of the alignment wouldnt be a bad idea, as like you say things must have moved even just slightly when the car was lowered.

 

Im not to clued up on the mini suspension side of things, but I have always done an alignment check when doing anything to the suspension or steering,
My old man for some reason believe this tech

 

give the old giffer a slap

 

ill show him this thread when I see him next weekend, hopefully he will see sense

or I may say to myself fuck it and left him wear his tyres out

 

be a good son and do the latter of the two options

 

Im leaning more to that latter option, then say ' told you so '

 

 

imo any changes with suspension must be checked and adjusted to suit.

If that's what he's said then it is wrong.

Ffs i used to recommend it/and do it when i used to work on chavalier's and you know that there a cunt to do.

Not done any mini's yet but with it been a bmw the toe, and camber should be adjustable front and rear.

 

I think my old man is being daft