brizie

I was also looking to put my rs turbo down to Si, but after reading this he doesn't seem as competent as he would like folk to believe!

dumped

This is a witch hunt as no one on here has actually seen the work bar Stu? Bit one sided really.

STUCOS

iTrader: (8)

Cars at my house any body local can come see,will post up pics of cage mounts when it,s warm enough to go out side,cheeRS stu

fuzzy

true but unless he's lying then it seems pretty black and white to me. and whats the point in lying? its not like its like the big tuning wars you get down south
do you think 130 minutes to fit a door card is reasonable? or 260 minutes to fit a strut brace etc etc....

lardypants

totally fucking rediculous that really takes the piss, what gets me is you paid it too !

RWD_cossie_wil

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Hmm, total hrs quoted as 65 hours, total bill comes to Ł850...

By my maths thats Ł13 Per hour... Not bad really considering the amount of jobs there are to do, looking at that list there is a hell of a lot of fiddly work to do there .. I have highlighted in red where I think the times are excessive, and blue where it sounds far too short to do a proper job..

Hard one to call really, final price sounds reasonable IMHO but the times are way out

STUCOS

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Correct will as i did state in the guy's defence earlier,he did give me a good discounted rate,but dosnt count for poor workman ship,

cheeRS stu

STUCOS

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Wil the l8 conversion,i had a sub loom made up by ryan so was just plug and play

cheeRS stu

Ade

Times stated sound a bit random in places, but the overall price sounds fair considering how much work has been done.
If there's still issues with the car I'm quite sure Simon would see you all right, he knows his stuff and is no rip off merchant.

Simon did a cracking job of doing a Zetec conversion on my Escort the other week... was at a fair price and everything was done well (and in a normal timescale with a receipt!).

RWD_cossie_wil

iTrader: (9)

Mate, I can understand where you are coming from, as it is a nightmare getting sub-standard work, but this is the last thing you should have done, not the first. Give the guy a chance to sort it out, go back with a list of whats wrong and CLAMLY and in a civilized manner explain what you feel is wrong, and what you would like done about it. It will get you a LOT further than just slating someone without giving them chance to remedy the situation.

Having a problem or complaint is not a problem, it's how the business deals with it that makes the difference, give the guys a chance to sort it out and see how you get on, you would be surprised how far you will get if you are reasonable and don't go in all guns blazing

If they refuse to help or sort it, then is the time to name and shame, not before they have had chance to sort it out. I can understand you being very pissed off, but mistakes happen from time to time.

fezzajsy

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shocker

STUCOS

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Wil i have spoken to him

cheeRS stu

RWD_cossie_wil

iTrader: (9)

What was the outcome mate? Trying not to take sides here just get it sorted for both of you, as I'm sure neither of you want hassle?

STUCOS

iTrader: (8)

As said above,offered to reweld cage mount points,once car mot's,that ws it,car over fueling,and reving it,s tits off after about 1 min of idle,said he couldnt adjust fueling as i run clossed loop on an msd chip,reply to one of the emails i sent him,was, im sorry your car doesnt meet your expectations,my car does i speced it,it,s his workman ship /presentation that didnt meet my expectation,any way can we lock this thread as this could go on for ever,and was never ment to go this far

cheeRS stu

sas

I would like to put my side across.

My name is Simon Smail and I operate Sitech Racing.

In my defence I feel I should point out the following.


I have said bring it back and will re-work any issues.. several times.

I have responed in a professional maner to evey email Stuart has sent me. I even welcome him in my home when he passes the front door to drop off spares in the evening or for a cup of tea if its late.
I replied to his last email on the 18th and heard nothing untill now.

The car is not taxed or MOT so I cannot take it for a drive to sort out fueling. I have said I will.

The time issues -
Fit AFR boss, the exhaust had to be removed and drilled then welded.
The door cards were carbon fibre - they had to be trimed and doors had to be drilled (they were not a good fit).
The exhaust was a side exit style exhaust which had to be modded to clear the cross member, also there were no mounting points so they had to be made.
Turbo heat shield had to be modded for Lambda also there was no mounting brackets so they had to be made.
So without going into the full detail most of the jobs on Stus car involved more than just bolting on.

The big issue on the car was the ABS brakes because the system was left without fluid in for 3 years the pump and block had siezed up whick is why the system had to be blead 3 times 2 pumps and a block untill we got it to work properly. This put the project back many weeks.

Simon.

The Youth.

iTrader: (1)

allways 2 side to every story, simon does seem to put up a bloody good defence IMO

stu you didn't mention the doorcards weren't standard

steve

STUCOS

iTrader: (8)

Sorry i did not say they were carbon,and only one was to be fitted as i had fitted the other 4 my self,and after 15 mins surely you should have noticed it didnt fit correctly,not 2+ hours,exhaust surely if that much trouble should have said no not fitting,my biggest grip was cage fit ments which when questioned simon replied after a week of recieving my email,that i had not speced mount type,now any safty gear,cage haress etc,should be fitted correctly as not there for show,car was ment to come back in a condition that it could be mot,d once i had painted front wings and fitted front bumper,well it,s no were near that,simon was given an open invetation to do what it needed as cost wasnt my first issue to a degree,think there was a big lack of comunication,which i here from other ppl,he has sortedout to a degree

cheeRS stu

Tangodeltasierra3

They are renaming very soon to Shite-ec

Stoo

Harsh, mate.

Simon's a nice guy, and I'm surprised to read about someone having issues with him. I hope it gets sorted, which I'm sure it will.

Also, I'm sooooooooooo fucking happy about not being a tuner in the Ford game. You get ripped to bits on here.

toff

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Its the norn for people jumping on the band wagon on here. Am sure there are a lot of tuners get bad mouthed by some and used fine by others.

Hope things are sorted Stu

Lambchop

iTrader: (1)

i think thats bang out of order tbh

i think simon has come across well and offered an explanation as to the time issues. fair play to that

STUCOS

iTrader: (8)

Yes some ppl like to stire it up,as said before this never started as a slagging match

cheeRS stu

fuzzy

what did it start as then?

RWD_cossie_wil

iTrader: (9)

Well, now that the two sides of the story have been put across, the solution seems simple to me.... Get the car MOT'd and taxed, then sort any outstanding work, then kiss and make up...

Pointless making enemies, I still think for the work in the list the ŁŁŁ was pretty good, so I am sure you two can come to an amicable arrangement and finsih a nice car on a good note?

col cos1

iTrader: (5)

i got done over by a supposidly local rs specialist about 18months back

charged me for work that wasent done

and fitted my grooved discs the wrong way round

Tangodeltasierra3

Sorry Simon i only read upto Page 2 when i posted as id read enough i though - Sitec rule!!!

Tangodeltasierra3

I bet it stopped in reverse fast though mate lol

pee vee

How do you do that then?
you got all adjustable beams and arms and stuff?

fuzzy

who was that? its always good to know the dodgy ones in my area.

col cos1

iTrader: (5)

theres only one bogus garage claiming to be an rs specialist local fuzzy

fuzzy

the only dodgy one i know is ace performance. pro motorsport isnt really local so they dont count. pm me there name if you dont want it broadcast

It's Czech Mate

I think Si has perfecty explained his position and it seems very reasonable, lots of fiddly jobs and an offer to sort any outstanding niggles. I wish more garages were like him!!!!

Fuck knows who else charges Ł13 per hour...seems ok to me

Ebonycossie4x4

iTrader: (4)

Excellent response from simon in my opinion. Ive just read the thread from start to finish and started off feeling as if you had been extremely ripped off.

then discovered the price and felt it was fair for the amount of fiddly jobs to be done.

Simon has then offered to put right the things you are unhappy with when the car is road LEGAL.

I dont think you can say fairer than that. I wish i got a response like that to my current predicament lol

Just my two cents...

ps. Oh and i think if you are a good tuner then the rest of youre (pleased) customers will stick up for you. Or anyone that understands the situation will atleast.

Like here for instance most people started off against the tuner. maybe now after his response that will change

dumped

col what do you mena by grooves? vanes or grooves?

col cos1

iTrader: (5)

grooves going the wrong way

ie left on right and vice versa

dumped

Its just i have had ap discs where they have directional vanes and would swear the grooves were the wrong way on them so decided if ap did not care which way they went either did I as the vane direction was much more important.

col cos1

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i will have pics giesa min

STUCOS

iTrader: (8)

But col did they swap your dff

cheeRS stu

col cos1

iTrader: (5)

cant find pics are on a disc

no stu but i got a new gearbox fitted and when i went to collect old one i was told the scrap man must of lifted it by accident,and there was nowt wrong with it except a slight crunch in 4th

i eventually got the box returned but now it doesnt crunch in 4th as its in my mates saph????answer me that

STUCOS

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Wil car will not be going back,as i dont have time to do the jobs needing redone,get it running correctly for mot,so the stile saw comes out this week end

cheeRS stu