Rob84

Will a car fail if its front ARB is disconnected one side? i.e. no drop link....

Thanks in advance

Matt Baxter

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yes

Rob84

ok so would it still fail if both sides were disconnected?

Matt Baxter

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yeah mate it will deffo fail on a part(s) missing

Stavros

remove the whole ARB and its fine tho

Rob84

ah fuck... best wait till I get my drop link bracket repaired before MOT'ing. Thanks buddy

Matt Baxter

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it would still fail as a vehicle known to be fitted with an arb as standard and had it removed is a reason for rejection

Stavros

only if the MOT tester was being a cunt, as almost all modified cars have something removed that was there as standard that would fail if only 1 of em was missing...

G2RSR

my mates past with no ARBs on a mk4 escort probably he didnt know much about mk4 escorts so he did not know

C4llyT

Indeed, gotta be there if standard fit.

C4llyT

ARB's are specifically mentioned in testers manual.
Not being a cunt, doing his job properly more like.

Matt Baxter

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only doing his job though

It's Czech Mate

Well they cant fail you for no spare wheel or no seats if you take them out so I fail to see why you'd get failed on an ARB that was taken off

Matt Baxter

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HTH
http://www.motuk.co.uk/manual_240.htm

fraser9764

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i put a subaru justy through with no anti roll bar the other week because the bushes were knakered.
no questions asked, but then again, how many people know about subaru justys, most people dont know they exist let alone wether they have an anti roll bar

what car is it on?

dojj

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if it's got a spare wheel it's got to be legal

but that's not a safety issue, removing your arb will leave big bolts and holes where it would normally live so it's not the most obvious thing you can hide away is it

Matt Baxter

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not for the mot the old bill can do you for it tho

C4llyT

WTF

Testers don't make the rules up, follow their manual

If you've a problem, take it up with the ministry, don't come out with shit here and make yourself look stupid

C4llyT

No it hasn't

dojj

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why not then?

C4llyT

Dunno, do I work for the ministry?

MOT's are just a joke really, ministry man picked me up for failing track rod ends for play in them.
Said they had to be hanging apart before a fail, not just a bit of play.

Same for bad rust in sills etc out of prescribed areas, mate was picked up on that. Said only seen that applied correctly once, and that was when he stood on sill the car bent under his weight.

dojj

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there's always the argument that you can pass an mot and yet the old bill can nick you as soon as you drive out

It's Czech Mate

Nothing i have said is wrong :s apart from the fact the ARB is explicitly mentioned in the manual which i didnt know!!!!!

My point about the spare wheel and seats still stands correct.

You can pass woth no spare wheel yet fail with a bald spare

I once removed the rear seats from a car to pass the MOT as the rear seatbelt inertia reel was fooked, so before I took it to test station off came the seat and the bits the belt clips into and hey ho a pass. You arent obliged to test something that isnt there unless explicitly stated in the manual. ( like ARB's )

C4llyT

I should hope spare wheel point stands, as Rover sold cars with no spare, just a can of tyre weld

NEO™®©

nope cos it can still fail if its meant to have had one fitted

pee vee

and new ST focus too.. not that rover sold them,,,, they might not be out of business if they did

Twellsie

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so what if you have removed the ARB to run compression struts, would it still fail?

C4llyT

If one was originally fitted to that axle, it needs to be there.

Moose 130

and a spare wheel only becomes illegal when you fit it, so for the MOT it's not a requirement.

it might be advised if the tester wants to.