OMEX Rev Limiter With Launch Control On My Escos
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Gimic - waste of money . But then you are of "that" age .
holding somert at revs to get a launch its hardly a gimic....is it....unless am missing somert...
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Gimic - waste of money . But then you are of "that" age .
Yeah, nice one Mike
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i'd steer clear of the spark cut launch
as that fouls the plugs badly,
unless it has sequential spark cut
which will reduce fouling but is still
not as good as ignition retard LC.
as that fouls the plugs badly,
unless it has sequential spark cut
which will reduce fouling but is still
not as good as ignition retard LC.
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His car is a track car, with track geometry, so what is the point in going launching with it and trying to hunt down times with 330bhp ? 13s and that is it - whoopy-do . As I said, gimic . When he then has enough power to make it worth while, he can break the transmission any time he wants (like YUM) with the launch control on his T6 . Funny, but I haven't bothered having this enabled, as I can't see the point in destroying my transmission / clutch for the sake of 0.3s - it's not like we are part of a Race Team and NEED to chase every second .
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I can't see the point in destroying my transmission / clutch for the sake of 0.3s - it's not like we are part of a Race Team and NEED to chase every second .
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Originally Posted by Stavros
Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
I can't see the point in destroying my transmission / clutch for the sake of 0.3s - it's not like we are part of a Race Team and NEED to chase every second .
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Originally Posted by Stavros
Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
I can't see the point in destroying my transmission / clutch for the sake of 0.3s - it's not like we are part of a Race Team and NEED to chase every second .
Indeed, I think Stav misses the point somewhat in what you enjoy Mike.
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Mike, just cause you are not into Gangsta launches doesnt mean he cant be
1st gear is pretty strong anyway on the 4wd box, so he can probably do several before it dies
1st gear is pretty strong anyway on the 4wd box, so he can probably do several before it dies
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Mike, just cause you are not into Gangsta launches doesnt mean he cant be
1st gear is pretty strong anyway on the 4wd box, so he can probably do several before it dies
1st gear is pretty strong anyway on the 4wd box, so he can probably do several before it dies
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Originally Posted by Stavros
Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
I can't see the point in destroying my transmission / clutch for the sake of 0.3s - it's not like we are part of a Race Team and NEED to chase every second .
Indeed, I think Stav misses the point somewhat in what you enjoy Mike.
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I originally wanted stu to custom map my car with the als ect but he doesnt do P8 using the pectel baby board he uses his own software
Live map we cant do using genuine Pectel P8 hardware but then neither can anyone else to my knowledge. (Bar using a decrypted version and then re-encrypting)
Just to clarify for those who may be confused...
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Gimmick - waste of money . But then you are of "that" age .
and Btw you sold me a set of Adjustable top mounts so i can swap my geometry with ease marking one setting for road use and one for track use why not one for drag use aswell?
All i ever here is my saph is the fastest on greens blah blah and my cars the quickest at this ect i dont mind listening to this as im interested but as you said you have been doing this for 12 years ad according to you going to brunters to have your Car remapped with a new turbo doesnt excited you
when you said on the phone whats the point you car will only do a 13.6 at best well its a 13.6 to beat then isnt it
maybe you should tell the TOTB boys that they shouldnt use there track cars for drag racing and drag cars for track racing
Also how the hell am i meant to be able launch a 500+ hp Car when i have no experience of launching any 4wd car other than at traffic lights ect wasnt born knowing how to drive in every style was you?
Sounds like someone is getting a bit long in the tooth for all this fast car malarkey praps you should take up bowls, crib or bridge
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Originally Posted by leecavturbo
i'd steer clear of the spark cut launch
as that fouls the plugs badly unless it has sequential spark cut
which will reduce fouling but is still not as good as ignition retard LC.
as that fouls the plugs badly unless it has sequential spark cut
which will reduce fouling but is still not as good as ignition retard LC.
can you still retain the ALS, W Inj, AIR inj, and Launch control all on a P8 and custom map it? how much is this?
cheers
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Originally Posted by leecavturbo
i'd steer clear of the spark cut launch
as that fouls the plugs badly unless it has sequential spark cut
which will reduce fouling but is still not as good as ignition retard LC.
as that fouls the plugs badly unless it has sequential spark cut
which will reduce fouling but is still not as good as ignition retard LC.
can you still retain the ALS, W Inj, AIR inj, and Launch control all on a P8 and custom map it? how much is this?
cheers
I said almost, as there is currently no LC software available for it. You would need the L8 for that sadly.
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Mike, just cause you are not into Gangsta launches doesnt mean he cant be
1st gear is pretty strong anyway on the 4wd box, so he can probably do several before it dies
1st gear is pretty strong anyway on the 4wd box, so he can probably do several before it dies
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Originally Posted by martin-reyland
Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Mike, just cause you are not into Gangsta launches doesnt mean he cant be
1st gear is pretty strong anyway on the 4wd box, so he can probably do several before it dies
1st gear is pretty strong anyway on the 4wd box, so he can probably do several before it dies
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Originally Posted by RWD_cossie_wil
Originally Posted by martin-reyland
Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Mike, just cause you are not into Gangsta launches doesnt mean he cant be
1st gear is pretty strong anyway on the 4wd box, so he can probably do several before it dies
1st gear is pretty strong anyway on the 4wd box, so he can probably do several before it dies
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PROBLEM!
ok here are the instructions
Got the buttom in a temp place and the spaded the 2 ends and taped up
then i got both of the Earths one from the botton andone from the unit its self and spaded them onto another it of wire whitch goes straiht to the battery
i then runs the one red and two blue to the front of the car where the coil pack goes, once this is done i unplug the coil pack plug and see there is a red wire in the middle and 2 black either side
i put the 2 blues to the blacks and the red to the red
i know its not the neatest job at the moment but i wanted to get it working first and then sort out where everything is going so if i had any probs i could sort them out
anyway all wired up switch on the ignition and nothing
no pretty lights flasheing or fuck all hold the bottons ect press them just wont lite up
can someone please confirm that my wiring is all fine and in the right place and where it should be please
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Got the buttom in a temp place and the spaded the 2 ends and taped up
then i got both of the Earths one from the botton andone from the unit its self and spaded them onto another it of wire whitch goes straiht to the battery
i then runs the one red and two blue to the front of the car where the coil pack goes, once this is done i unplug the coil pack plug and see there is a red wire in the middle and 2 black either side
i put the 2 blues to the blacks and the red to the red
i know its not the neatest job at the moment but i wanted to get it working first and then sort out where everything is going so if i had any probs i could sort them out
anyway all wired up switch on the ignition and nothing
no pretty lights flasheing or fuck all hold the bottons ect press them just wont lite up
can someone please confirm that my wiring is all fine and in the right place and where it should be please
cheers
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I know with coils the colours are usually the wrong way round, so black is usually pos+. So you haven't got the wires the wrong way round? Is red definitly positive on your coilpack wiring?
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if you look the stack dash rev counter wire goes to the black wire on the left would that need to go to the pos+ or one of the neg's?
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Mike
Doesnt sound like a gimick to me.
Originally Posted by cossiemanden
I had it on my car for a year, worked GREAT
took of about 0,3 sec of my quartetmile time also
took of about 0,3 sec of my quartetmile time also
Sorry, but this would not take any time off a quarter mile time if launched well with out it.
All it does is aid the launch rev's, so if your capable of holding rev's with the throttle. job done.
PS, i have one of these (twin coil version) on my Xr2 for the main rev limiter, and did try it on my cossie.
it works fine on my xr2tt, launching at 4500 rpm, but on the cossie, it caused a powerloss once lauched, either due to a split second of weak spark or fouled the plug's, and caused bogging everytime.
Tried it only on Coil pack p8, didn't try it on gpA coil setup.
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Originally Posted by Fiecos Dan
Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Mike
Doesnt sound like a gimick to me.
Originally Posted by cossiemanden
I had it on my car for a year, worked GREAT
took of about 0,3 sec of my quartetmile time also
took of about 0,3 sec of my quartetmile time also
Sorry, but this would not take any time off a quarter mile time if launched well with out it.
All it does is aid the launch rev's, so if your capable of holding rev's with the throttle. job done.
PS, i have one of these (twin coil version) on my Xr2 for the main rev limiter, and did try it on my cossie.
it works fine on my xr2tt, launching at 4500 rpm, but on the cossie, it caused a powerloss once lauched, either due to a split second of weak spark or fouled the plug's, and caused bogging everytime.
Tried it only on Coil pack p8, didn't try it on gpA coil setup.
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Originally Posted by RWD_cossie_wil
Originally Posted by Fiecos Dan
Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Mike
Doesnt sound like a gimick to me.
Originally Posted by cossiemanden
I had it on my car for a year, worked GREAT
took of about 0,3 sec of my quartetmile time also
took of about 0,3 sec of my quartetmile time also
Sorry, but this would not take any time off a quarter mile time if launched well with out it.
All it does is aid the launch rev's, so if your capable of holding rev's with the throttle. job done.
PS, i have one of these (twin coil version) on my Xr2 for the main rev limiter, and did try it on my cossie.
it works fine on my xr2tt, launching at 4500 rpm, but on the cossie, it caused a powerloss once lauched, either due to a split second of weak spark or fouled the plug's, and caused bogging everytime.
Tried it only on Coil pack p8, didn't try it on gpA coil setup.
Also if you dont let off the button until you are actually moving, it stops the car over revving, not such an issue on a 4wd car, but on a fwd car in particuar that can be very useful.
Ie if you have it set to 4000rpm, and in first gear that represent 20mph, then until the car itself (ie the car NOT just the driven wheels) is doing about 18mph, keeping the button pressed stops the wheels ending up doing 30mph bouncing off the limiter, and nearer to 10% slip is a LOT better at accelerating the car than the wheels doing 3 times the speed of the car.
So they definately have their uses, I havent tried one on an escos, so cant comment on that specific application from expererience, but Id expect it to at the very least improve consistancy, particuarly if its an inexperienced person driving it.
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Fiecos Dan will be round at the weekend for some testing
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rapidcossie Yes mate taking the car to Santapod for some fun dont tell mike tho he wants me to just look at the car inbetween track days
Thats exactly why i want one, i have no Experience launching a car at all "other than at the lights pissing about" (tramp city)
I know im am going to have to find the perfect RPM where the car doesnt Tramp, Doesnt Bog down and doesnt light the wheels up, once that has been found i can set that in the rev limiter and the concentrate on getting it through the gears
its all a learning curve at the end of the day and what fun you can have along the way after all isnt that what its al about, having fun?
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i thought that last night when i was fitting it and while it may look shit i have left it hanging so i can hold it with my right index against the steering wheel and when i want to let of i do so this is just for now but i realised i have to hold it while, holding the wheel and changing gear all while trying to perfect a Launch, so if it makes me feel better it will do for now
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rapidcossie Yes mate taking the car to Santapod for some fun dont tell mike tho he wants me to just look at the car inbetween track days
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but Id expect it to at the very least improve consistency, particularly if its an inexperienced person driving it.
but Id expect it to at the very least improve consistency, particularly if its an inexperienced person driving it.
I know im am going to have to find the perfect RPM where the car doesnt Tramp, Doesnt Bog down and doesnt light the wheels up, once that has been found i can set that in the rev limiter and the concentrate on getting it through the gears
its all a learning curve at the end of the day and what fun you can have along the way after all isnt that what its al about, having fun?
Rick
i thought that last night when i was fitting it and while it may look shit i have left it hanging so i can hold it with my right index against the steering wheel and when i want to let of i do so this is just for now but i realised i have to hold it while, holding the wheel and changing gear all while trying to perfect a Launch, so if it makes me feel better it will do for now
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Originally Posted by RWD_cossie_wil
Originally Posted by Fiecos Dan
Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Mike
Doesnt sound like a gimick to me.
Originally Posted by cossiemanden
I had it on my car for a year, worked GREAT
took of about 0,3 sec of my quartetmile time also
took of about 0,3 sec of my quartetmile time also
Sorry, but this would not take any time off a quarter mile time if launched well with out it.
All it does is aid the launch rev's, so if your capable of holding rev's with the throttle. job done.
PS, i have one of these (twin coil version) on my Xr2 for the main rev limiter, and did try it on my cossie.
it works fine on my xr2tt, launching at 4500 rpm, but on the cossie, it caused a powerloss once lauched, either due to a split second of weak spark or fouled the plug's, and caused bogging everytime.
Tried it only on Coil pack p8, didn't try it on gpA coil setup.
Not on this setup your not,
ment to hold throttle part open, to stop over fueling.
As for button position i found best on the handbrake lever, as then you can load up the transmission, and let it go when releasing the handbrake.
And i agree with Chip, about aiding consistancey, and allowing concentration to be used else where, but only if kit works.
This might work well on Ben's Escos with his Anti lag, but then it might not be needed at all.
We'll see at weekend when we go and test the best ways to launch Bens car before he goes to the pod.
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for the moment its hanging out where the wiper stalk is so it can be droped when i turn the wheel
For a more permanent solution my steering wheel has 2 bottons either side of the Horn so where the horn wires come in up through the middle im hoping i can put the LC wires there and then that way i can turn the wheel withput it ripping them out
For a more permanent solution my steering wheel has 2 bottons either side of the Horn so where the horn wires come in up through the middle im hoping i can put the LC wires there and then that way i can turn the wheel withput it ripping them out
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Dan, who cares about overfuelling?
It will pop and bang its tits off which Ben will probably like, lol
If its on the gear lever, you can use it to full throttle shift with as well, with more pops and bangs
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It will pop and bang its tits off which Ben will probably like, lol
If its on the gear lever, you can use it to full throttle shift with as well, with more pops and bangs
* warning, may cause death of turbo or engine or driver *
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Dan, who cares about overfuelling?
It will pop and bang its tits off which Ben will probably like, lol
If its on the gear lever, you can use it to full throttle shift with as well, with more pops and bangs
* warning, may cause death of turbo or engine or driver *
It will pop and bang its tits off which Ben will probably like, lol
If its on the gear lever, you can use it to full throttle shift with as well, with more pops and bangs
* warning, may cause death of turbo or engine or driver *
i got ALS for all the pops and bangs i will ever need, dan knows all about this