Evo 7's. How many types are there?
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Evo 7's. How many types are there?
i know of the GSR and RS but are there any others and also what are the differences and whih ones are best for which purposes?
thanx people
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The only one thats radically different is the RS, which is basically a 'Poverty model', well, that was how it was originally sold, that was aimed at the Rally Teams etc. It comes with no luxuries (Steel wheels etc), because the Rally guys will just be taking that stuff off anyway. The RS models had stronger drivetrain (Rear diff/driveshafts etc).
Other than that, Evo's come in GSR form, which from Evo 6 onwards equates to around 280bhp. The Evo 6 Tommi Makinen was basically early Evo 7 spec but in an Evo 6 body. After that, you get into the 'FQ' versions which are just tuning packages that are bolted on in the UK.
So, for example, the FQ 300 has an HKS Exhaust and Air Filter right through to the FQ400 which has a whole lot of bits and is a fooking expensive way into a 400bhp Evo in all honesty.
They don't have their individual purposes, more that at the time of purchase, the buyer had a little more money to spend if he went for a better model, just as with any car.
In summary, most Evo 7's are GSR's, but if you plan to tune it heavily you'd do well to buy an RS, will save a £3000 RS rear diff conversion later on, but they are rare and what started out as a poverty model has become one of the more desireable!!
Other than that, Evo's come in GSR form, which from Evo 6 onwards equates to around 280bhp. The Evo 6 Tommi Makinen was basically early Evo 7 spec but in an Evo 6 body. After that, you get into the 'FQ' versions which are just tuning packages that are bolted on in the UK.
So, for example, the FQ 300 has an HKS Exhaust and Air Filter right through to the FQ400 which has a whole lot of bits and is a fooking expensive way into a 400bhp Evo in all honesty.
They don't have their individual purposes, more that at the time of purchase, the buyer had a little more money to spend if he went for a better model, just as with any car.
In summary, most Evo 7's are GSR's, but if you plan to tune it heavily you'd do well to buy an RS, will save a £3000 RS rear diff conversion later on, but they are rare and what started out as a poverty model has become one of the more desireable!!
09-02-2008, 08:08 PM
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a much better description of a RS is a motorsport or rally sport version,
not poverty,not many rally crews running 100k pukka group ?N cars would be classed as poverty!!
not poverty,not many rally crews running 100k pukka group ?N cars would be classed as poverty!!
09-02-2008, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
The only one thats radically different is the RS, which is basically a 'Poverty model', well, that was how it was originally sold, that was aimed at the Rally Teams etc. It comes with no luxuries (Steel wheels etc), because the Rally guys will just be taking that stuff off anyway. The RS models had stronger drivetrain (Rear diff/driveshafts etc).
Other than that, Evo's come in GSR form, which from Evo 6 onwards equates to around 280bhp. The Evo 6 Tommi Makinen was basically early Evo 7 spec but in an Evo 6 body. After that, you get into the 'FQ' versions which are just tuning packages that are bolted on in the UK.
So, for example, the FQ 300 has an HKS Exhaust and Air Filter right through to the FQ400 which has a whole lot of bits and is a fooking expensive way into a 400bhp Evo in all honesty.
They don't have their individual purposes, more that at the time of purchase, the buyer had a little more money to spend if he went for a better model, just as with any car.
In summary, most Evo 7's are GSR's, but if you plan to tune it heavily you'd do well to buy an RS, will save a £3000 RS rear diff conversion later on, but they are rare and what started out as a poverty model has become one of the more desireable!!
Other than that, Evo's come in GSR form, which from Evo 6 onwards equates to around 280bhp. The Evo 6 Tommi Makinen was basically early Evo 7 spec but in an Evo 6 body. After that, you get into the 'FQ' versions which are just tuning packages that are bolted on in the UK.
So, for example, the FQ 300 has an HKS Exhaust and Air Filter right through to the FQ400 which has a whole lot of bits and is a fooking expensive way into a 400bhp Evo in all honesty.
They don't have their individual purposes, more that at the time of purchase, the buyer had a little more money to spend if he went for a better model, just as with any car.
In summary, most Evo 7's are GSR's, but if you plan to tune it heavily you'd do well to buy an RS, will save a £3000 RS rear diff conversion later on, but they are rare and what started out as a poverty model has become one of the more desireable!!
quite glad theres not that many versions like the scoobs.
so 400bhp can be achived for less money if you bought a normal GSR or RS than th extra cost on top for a FQ400?????
09-02-2008, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 4x4
Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
The only one thats radically different is the RS, which is basically a 'Poverty model', well, that was how it was originally sold, that was aimed at the Rally Teams etc. It comes with no luxuries (Steel wheels etc), because the Rally guys will just be taking that stuff off anyway. The RS models had stronger drivetrain (Rear diff/driveshafts etc).
Other than that, Evo's come in GSR form, which from Evo 6 onwards equates to around 280bhp. The Evo 6 Tommi Makinen was basically early Evo 7 spec but in an Evo 6 body. After that, you get into the 'FQ' versions which are just tuning packages that are bolted on in the UK.
So, for example, the FQ 300 has an HKS Exhaust and Air Filter right through to the FQ400 which has a whole lot of bits and is a fooking expensive way into a 400bhp Evo in all honesty.
They don't have their individual purposes, more that at the time of purchase, the buyer had a little more money to spend if he went for a better model, just as with any car.
In summary, most Evo 7's are GSR's, but if you plan to tune it heavily you'd do well to buy an RS, will save a £3000 RS rear diff conversion later on, but they are rare and what started out as a poverty model has become one of the more desireable!!
Other than that, Evo's come in GSR form, which from Evo 6 onwards equates to around 280bhp. The Evo 6 Tommi Makinen was basically early Evo 7 spec but in an Evo 6 body. After that, you get into the 'FQ' versions which are just tuning packages that are bolted on in the UK.
So, for example, the FQ 300 has an HKS Exhaust and Air Filter right through to the FQ400 which has a whole lot of bits and is a fooking expensive way into a 400bhp Evo in all honesty.
They don't have their individual purposes, more that at the time of purchase, the buyer had a little more money to spend if he went for a better model, just as with any car.
In summary, most Evo 7's are GSR's, but if you plan to tune it heavily you'd do well to buy an RS, will save a £3000 RS rear diff conversion later on, but they are rare and what started out as a poverty model has become one of the more desireable!!
quite glad theres not that many versions like the scoobs.
so 400bhp can be achived for less money if you bought a normal GSR or RS than th extra cost on top for a FQ400?????
09-02-2008, 08:15 PM
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I will be in the market for an Evo7/8 in the not to distant, so the advice above has been a big help. I still have not got round to reading up on options/specs models etc.
Christian
What sorta money would it cost to convert say a bog standard RS to around 500bhp? It will still have to be good on the road as it will be my daily drive. Although I am not too bothered about fuel consumption as I commute to work. Will the standard bottom end take much?
Christian
What sorta money would it cost to convert say a bog standard RS to around 500bhp? It will still have to be good on the road as it will be my daily drive. Although I am not too bothered about fuel consumption as I commute to work. Will the standard bottom end take much?
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Originally Posted by Cosworth Rallyesport
Originally Posted by 4x4
Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
The only one thats radically different is the RS, which is basically a 'Poverty model', well, that was how it was originally sold, that was aimed at the Rally Teams etc. It comes with no luxuries (Steel wheels etc), because the Rally guys will just be taking that stuff off anyway. The RS models had stronger drivetrain (Rear diff/driveshafts etc).
Other than that, Evo's come in GSR form, which from Evo 6 onwards equates to around 280bhp. The Evo 6 Tommi Makinen was basically early Evo 7 spec but in an Evo 6 body. After that, you get into the 'FQ' versions which are just tuning packages that are bolted on in the UK.
So, for example, the FQ 300 has an HKS Exhaust and Air Filter right through to the FQ400 which has a whole lot of bits and is a fooking expensive way into a 400bhp Evo in all honesty.
They don't have their individual purposes, more that at the time of purchase, the buyer had a little more money to spend if he went for a better model, just as with any car.
In summary, most Evo 7's are GSR's, but if you plan to tune it heavily you'd do well to buy an RS, will save a £3000 RS rear diff conversion later on, but they are rare and what started out as a poverty model has become one of the more desireable!!
Other than that, Evo's come in GSR form, which from Evo 6 onwards equates to around 280bhp. The Evo 6 Tommi Makinen was basically early Evo 7 spec but in an Evo 6 body. After that, you get into the 'FQ' versions which are just tuning packages that are bolted on in the UK.
So, for example, the FQ 300 has an HKS Exhaust and Air Filter right through to the FQ400 which has a whole lot of bits and is a fooking expensive way into a 400bhp Evo in all honesty.
They don't have their individual purposes, more that at the time of purchase, the buyer had a little more money to spend if he went for a better model, just as with any car.
In summary, most Evo 7's are GSR's, but if you plan to tune it heavily you'd do well to buy an RS, will save a £3000 RS rear diff conversion later on, but they are rare and what started out as a poverty model has become one of the more desireable!!
quite glad theres not that many versions like the scoobs.
so 400bhp can be achived for less money if you bought a normal GSR or RS than th extra cost on top for a FQ400?????
.was only asking as thats the impression i got from christian. Can only people willing to give info please post....
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There is an evo 7 extreme as well that comes with red front and rear bumpers side skirts and rear spoiler blade no sure if it was mechanically any different
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Originally Posted by Homer.
There is an evo 7 extreme as well that comes with red front and rear bumpers side skirts and rear spoiler blade no sure if it was mechanically any different
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and there's a GTA aswell
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Mitsubishi-Lan...QQcmdZViewItem
Shocking seats and auto box
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Mitsubishi-Lan...QQcmdZViewItem
Shocking seats and auto box
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The FQ300 is a nice all rounder.
I had mine for just over a year and done many miles on track as well as using it every day and had nothing out of the ordinary go wrong. Just the usuals e.g. clutch / tyres / brakes
I had mine for just over a year and done many miles on track as well as using it every day and had nothing out of the ordinary go wrong. Just the usuals e.g. clutch / tyres / brakes
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Originally Posted by Cosworth Rallyesport
Originally Posted by 4x4
Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
The only one thats radically different is the RS, which is basically a 'Poverty model', well, that was how it was originally sold, that was aimed at the Rally Teams etc. It comes with no luxuries (Steel wheels etc), because the Rally guys will just be taking that stuff off anyway. The RS models had stronger drivetrain (Rear diff/driveshafts etc).
Other than that, Evo's come in GSR form, which from Evo 6 onwards equates to around 280bhp. The Evo 6 Tommi Makinen was basically early Evo 7 spec but in an Evo 6 body. After that, you get into the 'FQ' versions which are just tuning packages that are bolted on in the UK.
So, for example, the FQ 300 has an HKS Exhaust and Air Filter right through to the FQ400 which has a whole lot of bits and is a fooking expensive way into a 400bhp Evo in all honesty.
They don't have their individual purposes, more that at the time of purchase, the buyer had a little more money to spend if he went for a better model, just as with any car.
In summary, most Evo 7's are GSR's, but if you plan to tune it heavily you'd do well to buy an RS, will save a £3000 RS rear diff conversion later on, but they are rare and what started out as a poverty model has become one of the more desireable!!
Other than that, Evo's come in GSR form, which from Evo 6 onwards equates to around 280bhp. The Evo 6 Tommi Makinen was basically early Evo 7 spec but in an Evo 6 body. After that, you get into the 'FQ' versions which are just tuning packages that are bolted on in the UK.
So, for example, the FQ 300 has an HKS Exhaust and Air Filter right through to the FQ400 which has a whole lot of bits and is a fooking expensive way into a 400bhp Evo in all honesty.
They don't have their individual purposes, more that at the time of purchase, the buyer had a little more money to spend if he went for a better model, just as with any car.
In summary, most Evo 7's are GSR's, but if you plan to tune it heavily you'd do well to buy an RS, will save a £3000 RS rear diff conversion later on, but they are rare and what started out as a poverty model has become one of the more desireable!!
quite glad theres not that many versions like the scoobs.
so 400bhp can be achived for less money if you bought a normal GSR or RS than th extra cost on top for a FQ400?????
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about the power evos can take i think it was in a jap mag
that it is not the power but the torque that kills the rods
and the limit is 380 lb/ft torque -yeah it confuses me too.
If you want a good solid evo an evo 5 onwards is a good
starting point as the 4 engine is weaker as you start tuning
the engine properly and some later evos come with DCCD
( driver controlled center differential) that means you have
a 3 point adjustment depending on weather conditions but
you can buy a motec diff controller to upgrade this so you
can set it to exactly what you want like martin hadlands skyline
box
speak to norris designs or rc developments as they have been
tuning evos for years and will be able to offer you advice based
on experience.
that it is not the power but the torque that kills the rods
and the limit is 380 lb/ft torque -yeah it confuses me too.
If you want a good solid evo an evo 5 onwards is a good
starting point as the 4 engine is weaker as you start tuning
the engine properly and some later evos come with DCCD
( driver controlled center differential) that means you have
a 3 point adjustment depending on weather conditions but
you can buy a motec diff controller to upgrade this so you
can set it to exactly what you want like martin hadlands skyline
box
speak to norris designs or rc developments as they have been
tuning evos for years and will be able to offer you advice based
on experience.
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[quote="yardy2186"] some later evos come with DCCD
( driver controlled center differential) that means you have
a 3 point adjustment depending on weather conditions but
you can buy a motec diff controller to upgrade this so you
can set it to exactly what you want like martin hadlands skyline
box
quote]
Rubbish.... DCCD is a subaru type R thing... evos have ACD on the later ones. ( active centre diff)
yes it has three setting but no you certainly cannot shift the power from the front to back etc... dont comment on things you know nothing about.
( driver controlled center differential) that means you have
a 3 point adjustment depending on weather conditions but
you can buy a motec diff controller to upgrade this so you
can set it to exactly what you want like martin hadlands skyline
box
quote]
Rubbish.... DCCD is a subaru type R thing... evos have ACD on the later ones. ( active centre diff)
yes it has three setting but no you certainly cannot shift the power from the front to back etc... dont comment on things you know nothing about.
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[quote="Ollie6RS2"]
getting more and more common on here now though,so much bad advise on here it needs a name change!!
Originally Posted by yardy2186
some later evos come with DCCD
( driver controlled center differential) that means you have
a 3 point adjustment depending on weather conditions but
you can buy a motec diff controller to upgrade this so you
can set it to exactly what you want like martin hadlands skyline
box
quote]
Rubbish.... DCCD is a subaru type R thing... evos have ACD on the later ones. ( active centre diff)
yes it has three setting but no you certainly cannot shift the power from the front to back etc... dont comment on things you know nothing about.
( driver controlled center differential) that means you have
a 3 point adjustment depending on weather conditions but
you can buy a motec diff controller to upgrade this so you
can set it to exactly what you want like martin hadlands skyline
box
quote]
Rubbish.... DCCD is a subaru type R thing... evos have ACD on the later ones. ( active centre diff)
yes it has three setting but no you certainly cannot shift the power from the front to back etc... dont comment on things you know nothing about.
10-02-2008, 10:11 AM
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[quote="Ollie6RS2"]
i seen something about this before.i know its not calls dccd but this is quoted from motes website and reading tht sounds like it can be adjusted 
Originally Posted by yardy2186
some later evos come with DCCD
( driver controlled center differential) that means you have
a 3 point adjustment depending on weather conditions but
you can buy a motec diff controller to upgrade this so you
can set it to exactly what you want like martin hadlands skyline
box
quote]
Rubbish.... DCCD is a subaru type R thing... evos have ACD on the later ones. ( active centre diff)
yes it has three setting but no you certainly cannot shift the power from the front to back etc... dont comment on things you know nothing about.
( driver controlled center differential) that means you have
a 3 point adjustment depending on weather conditions but
you can buy a motec diff controller to upgrade this so you
can set it to exactly what you want like martin hadlands skyline
box
quote]
Rubbish.... DCCD is a subaru type R thing... evos have ACD on the later ones. ( active centre diff)
yes it has three setting but no you certainly cannot shift the power from the front to back etc... dont comment on things you know nothing about.
MoTeC is proud to announce the release of the MoTeC MDC - Mitsubishi Diff Controller.
MoTeC's Mitsubishi Diff Controller (MDC) replaces the factory fitted Active Centre Diff (ACD) controller. It is a bolt in replacement making use of the factory mounting points.
The MoTeC MDC is suitable for EVO 7, 8 and 9s fitted with the ACD system from the factory. The MDC can be used in cars fitted with the ACD/AYC (Active Yaw Control) but the AYC will be disabled.
There are six selectable control modes, 0%, 100% and four user configurable modes. The control modes can be cycled through using the factory dash mounted ACD button
MoTeC's Mitsubishi Diff Controller (MDC) replaces the factory fitted Active Centre Diff (ACD) controller. It is a bolt in replacement making use of the factory mounting points.
The MoTeC MDC is suitable for EVO 7, 8 and 9s fitted with the ACD system from the factory. The MDC can be used in cars fitted with the ACD/AYC (Active Yaw Control) but the AYC will be disabled.
There are six selectable control modes, 0%, 100% and four user configurable modes. The control modes can be cycled through using the factory dash mounted ACD button
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