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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 03:19 PM
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Well I like it.

1400bhp Ferrari 48valve flat12



Supercharged and running 60psi boost using a fucking massive centrifugal supercharger of a scrapped british train.

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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 03:21 PM
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WOW thats cool...!!
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Am I the onyl one who thinks them tyres are a little skinny for 1400 ponies :S

Must be having some massive slicks on the back..........

Any more info/links?

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looks false imo.

probably not but looks weird in there.
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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 03:29 PM
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Skinny tyres on the front as it was originally made as a drag car (ran 7.0), then as a top speed car.

Im not on about the car anyhow, thats nowt special, barring being a front engine ferrari drag car

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looks false imo.
Well your wrong.

Was done in the 80s too.

Same guy built a 4000bhp (yes, 4000) 4cyl (yes, straight 4cyl) Honda Integra
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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 03:51 PM
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thats just awesome
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Stav, are you sure about the 1400 BHP?

Those look like 12 Bosch green injectors.........so I make that enough fuel for 1100 BHP....

Or look at it another way - devide the 12 cylinders by 3, so to make 1400 BHP each set of four cylinders/injectors is making 466 BHP.

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Originally Posted by Stavros
Same guy built a 4000bhp (yes, 4000) 4cyl (yes, straight 4cyl) Honda Integra
Any pics of that........ That must be an absolutely immense motor

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Originally Posted by SillyFezzaMk1
Originally Posted by Stavros
Same guy built a 4000bhp (yes, 4000) 4cyl (yes, straight 4cyl) Honda Integra
Any pics of that........ That must be an absolutely immense motor

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http://www.tuneruk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=300
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Google is your friend folks....

http://www.tuneruk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=300

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lol i thought why did i say yeh would be nice to see i should just use google lol
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I keep counting 10 injector type thingys looking at it, any other pics? Like the throttle pre charger though...... ON and OFF control
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I keep counting 10 injector type thingys looking at it, any other pics? Like the throttle pre charger though...... ON and OFF control


Ran 12 big injectors, directly in to the combined chargecoolers/inlet plenums.

Tons of cars run the throttles pre-turbo/supercharger, or twin throttles.
This one ran it mostly as its easiest place to put it, but is has advantages of reducing lag etc too.
Renault F1 Turbo and GrpB cars ran a pre-turbo throttle as well as individual throttle bodies.

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Stav, are you sure about the 1400 BHP?

Those look like 12 Bosch green injectors.........so I make that enough fuel for 1100 BHP....

Or look at it another way - devide the 12 cylinders by 3, so to make 1400 BHP each set of four cylinders/injectors is making 466 BHP.

Oh comeon Doug, I thought you had enough sense to know the colour of an injector means fuck all and there are lots of green coloured injectors mate

There quite a few Bosch injectors that are green too, never mind other makes. Volvo Bosch greens are same shade but much smaller.

Green injector means fuck all like T4 means fuck all. They just make sense when referring to common Cosworth parts.
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Originally Posted by Stavros
Oh comeon Doug, I thought you had enough sense to know the colour of an injector means fuck all and there are lots of green coloured injectors mate

There quite a few Bosch injectors that are green too, never mind other makes. Volvo Bosch greens are same shade but much smaller.

Green injector means fuck all like T4 means fuck all. They just make sense when referring to common Cosworth parts.
Then again it could be because of the fuel used:

.........and had been certified on a Superflow 901 engine dyno to make 1400 horsepower on 120-octane gasoline at 60psi boost.
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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 04:16 PM
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Coolest engine ever
My water temps are about 70 degree's, that pretty cool as water temps go
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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 04:16 PM
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It could be on 2billion octane fuel, your not gonna make 1400bhp on 12 cossie greens doug.

high octane doesnt magically mean you need less fuel...
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Could you explain easily how it reduces lag?
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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Stavros
It could be on 2billion octane fuel, your not gonna make 1400bhp on 12 cossie greens doug.
high octane doesnt magically mean you need less fuel...
No, but it does mean you'd make more power.........

IIRC an engine will make MORE power with the injectors maxed out on 120 RON fuel than it would with 99 RON pump fuel and the same injectors maxed out.......as long as it is mapped to take advantage of the more potent fuel.

Chip will back me up
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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 04:31 PM
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Only by a very slight amount as its more resistant to knock so could run it leaner/hotter.

Same amount of fuel, same air/fuel ratio, simple as that.

Simple fact is that car would not be running Cossie greens and there would be no reason in any way for it to run them.

Chip says a lot of things and backs up lots of things, dont mean hes right just because he will argue black is white for 10 pages
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Originally Posted by Stavros
Only by a very slight amount as its more resistant to knock so could run it leaner/hotter.

Same amount of fuel, same air/fuel ratio, simple as that.
Are you sure Stav.....? We see time and time again Norris Designs dyno plots on two types of fuel (road & race).....with the octaine numbers only 6 or 8 RON different BUT an extra 150 - 200 BHP on the race fuel graph. I thought this was purely down to the more potent nature of the race fuel.
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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 04:38 PM
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yes.

boost pressure, ignition timing, etc etc etc...

much more noticable on higher compression engines as they cant run without much less boost or much less ignition without detting when on normal fuel.
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Talking of cool engine bays, I spotted this one whilst browsing the t'internet.

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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 04:40 PM
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Very cool , but would be cooler if we knew it performed as good as it looks!
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Originally Posted by Karl
Talking of cool engine bays, I spotted this one whilst browsing the t'internet.

Cant be any good - it's only 1800 cc


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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 04:43 PM
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1800cc dont matter, the MR2 the guy who built the Ferrari engine owns did 207mph with a 1.5litre 4cyl engine and 152mph on a 1litre 4cyl engine, lol
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Originally Posted by Stavros
1800cc dont matter, the MR2 the guy who built the Ferrari engine owns did 207mph with a 1.5litre 4cyl engine and 152mph on a 1litre 4cyl engine, lol
Well OK...I bet Karls engine dont rev then, probaly red lines at 7,400...............what does it rev to Karl?
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Can anyone tell me easily why running a throttle pre turbo reduces lag since steve won't?

Karl, nice engine what does it look like right now?
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Hi Doug,

9000rpm is the limit I used on a daily basis, but seems happy to 10,000rpm when used in anger.

The engine above no longer resides in that car anyway, its in a small red square box, new lump in the making for my own car..............
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Here is the red box...............(As of last night)



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Doump- I never said I wouldnt?! Oh, shit, didnt see that post up there...

Dont ask me, lets ask Jean Pierre Boudy, head of Renault and then Peugeots GrpB and F1 efforts in the 80s...








I expect PF pic re-sizer will make the above stuff unreadable tho...

He said, about the DPV setup, "our drivers dont even know what lag is" and thats on 1.5litre Turbo engines with massive turbos.
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What parts are actually integra? the block doesnt look integra and the heads definatly aint?
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WHAT POWER DOES THAT MAKE THEN
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Thats not a pre turbo throttle like above.
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Originally Posted by Alps Pacino
What parts are actually integra? the block doesnt look integra and the heads definatly aint?
fuck all really, NONE of the engine.

its just a tube frame drag car in the shape of a DC2 TypeR, with a 4000bhp 4cyl engine in it.
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Originally Posted by dumped
Thats not a pre turbo throttle like above.
yes it is.

pre throttle (tho the best design is a fancy iris type thing, and opening different speeds to main throttles) and for best drivability and response main throttles close to inlet ports.

theory is the same, the stuff i just posted is just the perfect, albeit complex and flashu, way to do it.
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Stavros

But people are saying its a 4000bhp integra engine when in reality its a 4000bhp engine in a car that had a glass fibre shell made to look like an integra lol
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