Got thinking today how cool it would be if we had 4 or 5 or our BEST modified cars and matched them against 4 or 5 of the Top gear's team. But they can only have STANDERD production cars' All be it Mclaren SLR's etc...and what would be the best 0-200 and all in between' Best round the track etc (No doubt Stiggy driving) And if it came to it would you let the Stig drive your pride and joy ???

 

Nice idea, though they'd blatantely choose the Veryon, SLR, Pagoni, Kosinnggddggklfkgldk and Lambo LP640

Only a handful of modded cars in the U.K would do that well against a Veryon?

Would like to see Norris Designs' Evo against a Veryon in a few different scenarios.

 

That's exactly what im thinking' Shore i heard Simon's is quicker accelerating

 

you have to have rod's saff,and tommy field out for the twisties.or maybe steve scott?
who has the quick 0-60?will ormes rs200? or someone else?

as said norris's car.or you could chuck in rocket ronnies skyline.?

 

yeah would be good to watch


who's cars would you have then?

 

No doubt the modified cars would all be faster. In fact, you could probably hand pick one modified car to be faster at one discipline than anything out there that is standard.....

Wouldn't prove a great deal really..... just that you could throw as much money as possible at a car and make is supremely fast and totally compromised.

 

The original rocket ronnie Ron kiddell

 

Simon has already took his car around the top gear test track.. on the video ive seen he managed a 1min 30.. with the stig driving im sure it is capable of going under the 1min 20 mark

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fISYaQI4pJU

to be fair he does nearly spin it at one point though

 

Be good TV tho

 

What does the Norris evo do again over the standing quarter? low 9's isnt it at over 160mph?

A veyron can do a high 9 at over 145mph.

Do you think these modified evos and cossies and the like could out handle a 911 GT3 RS or Gallardo Supperleggera?

if not then no chance of out handling a veyron. Many mag journos say it outhandles both said cars.


Carl

 

Ten Of The Best would easily show all the kind of things your talking about if the Supercars bothered to show up.

In fact usually at least a few do, and get their arses handed to them, not that superising considering almost all weigh 1500kg+, many over 1700kg.

Cool to watch, and suprising for your average person no doubt, but the top modded cars in the UK will destroy the best 100% standard Supercars in straight line acceleration, and a good few will around a track too, all things equal.

Thats modified cars for you.

 

Someone email clarkson and ask him if he fancies his chances against a shonkey old Sierra vs him in a Veyron please

 

spot on stav,i took my mate last year and he is always around supercars and banging on about them.now i know they are great cars that are high class but he didnt really believe that they can be absolutely killed by some of the cars we are around.
that was until he saw the likes of andy's subaru,the selection of evo's,keith and ron's skyline's

he was in awe of it all and left rather suprised and enlightened

 

Clarkson is one of the few that know what modified normal cars are capable of.

Unfortunatly the fact is Top Gear on the whole are NOT interested in doing stuff about modified cars.

5th Gear on the other hand are. (shame its a bit poo )

 

They once had a shonky Ecosse modded Pug 306 on there I remember..... Shit feature tho

 

Did this well back in 2003 and never got a reply

 

Alot of supercar owners cant really drive them to their full potential either.

 

And nor can most modified car owners

 

No but the likes of Hadland and Norris chap can.

 

Even cars that are pedalled well like those can usually be pedalled noticably faster by a pro driver.

The Zen Scooby is a fine example, Paul from Zen can drive well, thats for sure, but soon as he got a pro behind the wheel it was untouchable.

 

Matt Allison did a good job in the zen scooby last year

 

I agree 100%

All i meant was a guy who has piled aload into a car may be a half decent driver.

An enzo driver may be 50 years old and never thrashed it in his life.

Not really fair the two racing down a drag strip.

 

In 1.5miles mine can hold a Veyron. A recent road test showed the Veyron did 0-200 24.2 & was doing 204 at the mile. Mine can do 0-200 20.4 & I would expect a mile time about the same.
The times were done in 5th gear spec so about 840bhp, will have at least 150more when it reappears.
Mark has the fastest time around the Topgear track in an EVO he was a full second quicker than Kev Atkins in Kevs car . 1m 24s I think but I may have got that wrong cant remember.
Faced with only 1.5miles most Super cars dont cut it against modded cars an Enzo struggles to reach 200 in the full 1.5miles.

 

Some cars were hitting over 200mph within 1 mile at TOTB in 2007, and like Rod says, you wont see many 200mph+ supercars managing 200mph till 1.5miles+

Matters fuck all if the car has a 10mph higher top speed if the other car has hit his top speed miles earlier and left the other car for dead!

 

what would make amazing tv is if all the modified cars could actually be in the same place all working on the same day

 

that would take all kinds of CGI and special effects mate, Top GEar havent got that kind of budget

 

PMSL...i thought not!

 

and thats where it is at! if one has already gone,you cant catch up if you dont have the time and space

 

It proves that people can build a car faster than any supercar in all discplins.
Only modifying a "normal car to better than superscars is a compromise.
Ie, is norris' evo as comfortible/top speed as a veyron? no
Is rods as fast as accelerating/round corners?

The thing why cossies and evos and imprezas will never be as good as lambourgini's/ferrari's/bugatti's etc, is because mainly aerodynamics/reliability!

Supercars are the WHOLE package, speed/handling/comfort.
Yes you could argue fiesta rst's with 1/10 of the money spent compared to a ferrari 360 will go down the quarter faster, but it won't go round corners/be as comfortible, have a higher top speed etc.

It would be good to see these cars go on top gear and trounce the supercars, but only to get the modified scene a better name and more people into the scene, because anyone with half a mind knows you cant compare a veyron or an slr to a 20 year old sierra!

 

But simple fact is, if you want performance, its a FUCK load cheaper than buying the equivalent supercar to get that performance.

And I cant afford supercars, same as most, hence why its done.

 

and also,anyone can go and buy an off the shelf fast car.but to some,building something that is individual and theirs is important too.

 

Christ that aint the neatest of laps

That car could go round there waaaaaay faster

 

I 100% agree mate, maybe my post was a little misworded.
I completly LOVE modified cars, the laughs/the pain/the countless hours spent in the garage over the years/the enjoyment you get from driving them, but, i have a lot of respect for supercars!
They do nearly everything, i remembered the first time i drove my mate hamzas slightly fettled 996 turbo, it blew my mind, the fact that one car could do well in so many discplins shocked me tbh!

I will never stop modifying vehicles, till the day i die, even if it means putting a moped engine into a granny scooter!

But the point i was trying to put across, was people with modified cars imo should have more respect for supercars!

Ie rod, in 1.5 miles you can hold a veyron, but, after that you can't neither will you be able to stick with it 0-60 or 0-100.

Ps, hows the chaser coming along mate?

 

what makes you think super cars are exactly reliable lol,
probly not alot better than most well put together modified cars

 

I get what you mean now kinda.

What you mean by above tho? There certainly are UK road legal cars that can do the Veyron (and Rods current best times) 0-60, 0-100, and 1.5miles.

Just waiting for it to come back from having uprated inlet manifold gaskets and a few other bits fitted, as well as the line lock, hydraulic wand, and new seats and harnesses.

 

Im sure he could have gone much quicker than that

 

i'd take on any super car round a track

 

Id pay money to see that mate

 

First challenge I would set Simon Norris's car against a veryon if I was the producer, is to do the 24hr lemans, soon see which is the better car then

 

I was just saying the topic was started with the likes of rod and norris in mind, if not i apologise
And cool news about the chaser saw the buckets and harness' in the mag look ace mate.