My Brother Has Been Involved In A Car Accident, Advice?
29-01-2008, 12:10 AM
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My Brother Has Been Involved In A Car Accident, Advice?
My brother has been involved in a car accident, he has asked me to ask your advice, he doesn’t really use forums. He can't even work a computer. Anyway, he has asked me to ask your advice as the women was really snotty and adamant it was his fault.
The first two lines show you them at the traffic lights, and the second two show you where she hit him, or he hit her. That's the problem.
Basically, the right lane is for turning right, and there are two other lanes for going straight ahead. The right lane does carry on forward for about 25 feet and then it disappears, if you are quick you can accelerate forward quickly and cut in front of the car in the lane to the left of you. So, on this occasion she was in the very right lane for turning right, but has decided to go straight ahead, to do so she has accelerated up to the speed limit quickly, the problem was so did my brother and she never made it into his lane and caught all the front of his car, ripping the bumper off and damaging the wheel and wing etc.
Purely for your opinion, who would you say was at fault? And that's the exact junction as found on google earth.
Thankyou, Benni.
The first two lines show you them at the traffic lights, and the second two show you where she hit him, or he hit her. That's the problem.
Basically, the right lane is for turning right, and there are two other lanes for going straight ahead. The right lane does carry on forward for about 25 feet and then it disappears, if you are quick you can accelerate forward quickly and cut in front of the car in the lane to the left of you. So, on this occasion she was in the very right lane for turning right, but has decided to go straight ahead, to do so she has accelerated up to the speed limit quickly, the problem was so did my brother and she never made it into his lane and caught all the front of his car, ripping the bumper off and damaging the wheel and wing etc.
Purely for your opinion, who would you say was at fault? And that's the exact junction as found on google earth.
Thankyou, Benni.
29-01-2008, 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Originally Posted by MK5RST
if the right lane is clearly marked for right turn ONLY she is in the wrong.
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29-01-2008, 12:18 AM
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Okay, if you look further down the picture, I have marked it too far up, there is an arrow telling you to get over. that's where she has came in.
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29-01-2008, 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by MK5RST
i can see it now but has your brother sped up to not let her in?
29-01-2008, 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by MK5RST
hmm, would say her fault for pulling into his lane but if you send a diagram to the insurance they will decide 
Thanks, Benni.
29-01-2008, 06:41 AM
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Highway Code Rule 127
Legally speaking she is in the wrong as she crossed the line prior to making sure the road was clear.
A broken white line. This marks the centre of the road. When this line lengthens and the gaps shorten, it means that there is a hazard ahead. Do not cross it unless you can see the road is clear and wish to overtake or turn off.
29-01-2008, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by St3V3_C
I would also say tell him he's an ass for thinking "bollocks, I'm gonna race her and not let her in front of me"
I think we're all guilty of that at some point, just most people aren't daft enough to go all the way and crash.
29-01-2008, 10:49 AM
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Not to sound stupid, but arent those cars on the wrong side of the road for the direction you have them travelling in? surely they should be driving on the left hand side, or was this on the continent/one way system?
but as said, if she pulled across she should have checked it was clear to do so and acted accordingly, its like motorway slip roads, so many people think they can just pull out onto the motorway and the others around them have to give way but its not, the person on the slip road has to give way.
but as said, if she pulled across she should have checked it was clear to do so and acted accordingly, its like motorway slip roads, so many people think they can just pull out onto the motorway and the others around them have to give way but its not, the person on the slip road has to give way.
29-01-2008, 03:18 PM
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KW-rscos I don't think so? It was only a rought sketch from google maps anyway to give an indication of what happened.
Guilty as charged, I'm normally too slow for anything to come of it though, 1.6 dog of shit.
I think we're all guilty of that at some point, just most people aren't daft enough to go all the way and crash.
29-01-2008, 03:29 PM
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Split arses fault without a shodow of a doubt,mirrors are only there for applying make up not for lookin what is coming up from behind or to the side for that matter,your brother should have pocked her in the eye and told her to feck off the silly bint
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Originally Posted by KW-rscos
Not to sound stupid, but arent those cars on the wrong side of the road for the direction you have them travelling in? surely they should be driving on the left hand side, or was this on the continent/one way system?
but as said, if she pulled across she should have checked it was clear to do so and acted accordingly, its like motorway slip roads, so many people think they can just pull out onto the motorway and the others around them have to give way but its not, the person on the slip road has to give way.
but as said, if she pulled across she should have checked it was clear to do so and acted accordingly, its like motorway slip roads, so many people think they can just pull out onto the motorway and the others around them have to give way but its not, the person on the slip road has to give way.
looking at the pic Benni are the cars travelling top to bottem or bottem to top
29-01-2008, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by andyt
Originally Posted by KW-rscos
Not to sound stupid, but arent those cars on the wrong side of the road for the direction you have them travelling in? surely they should be driving on the left hand side, or was this on the continent/one way system?
but as said, if she pulled across she should have checked it was clear to do so and acted accordingly, its like motorway slip roads, so many people think they can just pull out onto the motorway and the others around them have to give way but its not, the person on the slip road has to give way.
but as said, if she pulled across she should have checked it was clear to do so and acted accordingly, its like motorway slip roads, so many people think they can just pull out onto the motorway and the others around them have to give way but its not, the person on the slip road has to give way.
looking at the pic Benni are the cars travelling top to bottem or bottem to top
29-01-2008, 04:38 PM
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if she has hit the front of his car, and her car is damaged on the back, then she may not have seen him weather she was cutting him up or not. will probably end up being a 50/50, unless of course a witness can give a statement.
29-01-2008, 04:44 PM
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In the eyes of the insurance the other driver could have "seen to be avoided" by your brother.
She doesn't have give way lines so I think it might be a bit tricky for your brother as it seems he just didn't want to let her get across as she did him from the lights?
She doesn't have give way lines so I think it might be a bit tricky for your brother as it seems he just didn't want to let her get across as she did him from the lights?
30-01-2008, 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Alvyn
while driving in the UK YOUR SUPPOSED to give way to traffic on the o/side
The only thing that comes remotely close to what your suggesting is :
Highway Code Rule 185
When reaching the roundabout you should
* give priority to traffic approaching from your right, unless directed otherwise by signs, road markings or traffic lights
* give priority to traffic approaching from your right, unless directed otherwise by signs, road markings or traffic lights
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAn...code/index.htm
30-01-2008, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbocabbie
Originally Posted by Alvyn
while driving in the UK YOUR SUPPOSED to give way to traffic on the o/side
The only thing that comes remotely close to what your suggesting is :
Highway Code Rule 185
When reaching the roundabout you should
* give priority to traffic approaching from your right, unless directed otherwise by signs, road markings or traffic lights
* give priority to traffic approaching from your right, unless directed otherwise by signs, road markings or traffic lights
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAn...code/index.htm
I think you need to have another look m8 try law 168 and then come back with some more of your wit
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NS lane is the driving lane, down to the person on the right to give way to them - they need to be in that lane; also can't go changing lanes hitting people when you feel like it.
Fairly straight forward I'd have thought, although his non defensive/poor reading, of the situation, may pay a part - not often it's 100% liability AFAIK.
Fairly straight forward I'd have thought, although his non defensive/poor reading, of the situation, may pay a part - not often it's 100% liability AFAIK.
30-01-2008, 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Alvyn
Originally Posted by Turbocabbie
Originally Posted by Alvyn
while driving in the UK YOUR SUPPOSED to give way to traffic on the o/side
The only thing that comes remotely close to what your suggesting is :
Highway Code Rule 185
When reaching the roundabout you should
* give priority to traffic approaching from your right, unless directed otherwise by signs, road markings or traffic lights
* give priority to traffic approaching from your right, unless directed otherwise by signs, road markings or traffic lights
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAn...code/index.htm
I think you need to have another look m8 try law 168 and then come back with some more of your wit
I have no problem learning or being corrected as I enjoy greatly being educated which is why I also posted the link so that I could be... however rule 168 states :
Being overtaken. If a driver is trying to overtake you, maintain a steady course and speed, slowing down if necessary to let the vehicle pass. Never obstruct drivers who wish to pass. Speeding up or driving unpredictably while someone is overtaking you is dangerous. Drop back to maintain a two-second gap if someone overtakes and pulls into the gap in front of you.
You did not state any specific situations and rule 168 is simply stating the obvious that Speeding up or driving unpredictably while someone is overtaking you is dangerous... It makes no reference to fact that they have priority right of way its simply asking you to be a responsible driver.
Rule 185 however where you are supposed to give way states as much
Code:
give priority to traffic approaching from your right
30-01-2008, 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Mondeo Man
Insurance will try 50:50 altho the woman 'appears' to be in the wrong IMO
your brother could have avoided it by letting her in,
in the uk when at traffic light with 2 lanes going straight on we tend to believe that the right hand lane is the overtaking lane (like a duel carrage way)
It's not but we see it that way!
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31-01-2008, 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by andyt
Originally Posted by KW-rscos
Not to sound stupid, but arent those cars on the wrong side of the road for the direction you have them travelling in? surely they should be driving on the left hand side, or was this on the continent/one way system?
but as said, if she pulled across she should have checked it was clear to do so and acted accordingly, its like motorway slip roads, so many people think they can just pull out onto the motorway and the others around them have to give way but its not, the person on the slip road has to give way.
but as said, if she pulled across she should have checked it was clear to do so and acted accordingly, its like motorway slip roads, so many people think they can just pull out onto the motorway and the others around them have to give way but its not, the person on the slip road has to give way.
looking at the pic Benni are the cars travelling top to bottem or bottem to top So I dont mean to sound funny but the way it sounded to me was as if she was in the right hand lane ready to turn right and she was next to the kerb, but that cant be cos that would then make the drivers side the near side unless in a one way system, So Benni to clarify, although she was in the right hand lane ready to turn right, both lanes can go forward? and she has basically changed her mind, gone straight on then tried to cross your brother from his right?
31-01-2008, 01:02 AM
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Probably the worst diagram in the history of diagrams, I doubt it will help your confusion, I'm no good at this stuff.
He is the blue car, she is the pink car, Benni.
He is the blue car, she is the pink car, Benni.