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Old 24-01-2008, 07:57 PM
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Default Do i adjust timing or feuling 4 nos?

St220.

if i run nos,, do i need to adjust anything else????

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Old 24-01-2008, 07:58 PM
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how much you running and what kit
Old 24-01-2008, 07:59 PM
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75bhp jets on progressive controller, wet kit. with bottle warmer, single point.
Old 24-01-2008, 08:00 PM
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If your having to ask I suggest you discuss with a tuner tbh.
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i thought there were tuners on here
Old 24-01-2008, 08:05 PM
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i would say yes
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you will need to get the fueling and knock checked out

is it a wizard kit

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shouldnt need to do stuff, just checked.

as long as the fuel and gas jets are correct that is.

checking is vital tho, as might det if you unlucky, and plugs or something also may not be up to it
Old 24-01-2008, 08:26 PM
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both ig and fuel needs adjusting other wise best way to blow it up
Old 24-01-2008, 08:26 PM
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you need to run a 25bhp jet test to determin
your nos/fuel ratio.
Old 24-01-2008, 08:39 PM
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not just bolt on lad but not to much bother to set up just need to check it's not leaning off at top end.
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Are you running a Wide Open Throttle Sensor and a window switch? Or is that part of your controller?

Might be worth running a cooler plug as well - depends what your tuner thinks when you get a det/fuelling check done.
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its on a progressive controller,, but i will get the spec of it and post it.. Thanks 4 the info. Guys
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To give you an idea - this is the Nitrous control map in my AEM ECU:

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At that level on similar engines, ive found the cooling effect of the nitrous is enough to offset the higher VE achieved, and typically ignition retard isnt needed.

If you need to adjust your fuelling map, you have done something wrong with the nitrous instalation.
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intresting,,,, i no it has a bottle warmer lol,,, I will get the full spec of the kit,, its goin on a mondeo st220,, witch has a level 3 tune by dreamscience,,, maybe ignition will want backing off,, to prevent nocking etc ,, wat you think guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Old 27-01-2008, 11:54 AM
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like said mate, you wont know till you test it, but typically, not really.

Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
At that level on similar engines, ive found the cooling effect of the nitrous is enough to offset the higher VE achieved, and typically ignition retard isnt needed.

If you need to adjust your fuelling map, you have done something wrong with the nitrous instalation.
exactly.

been some slightly wierd/gay comments so far
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My ignition map is not changed in anyway even with a 240bhp shot.
Mark checks the fueling & the fuel jet is changed to get it correct.
For Topspeed runs its checked everytime on the road its fine.
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Originally Posted by Stavros
like said mate, you wont know till you test it, but typically, not really.


been some slightly wierd/gay comments so far

madman and stav, wat am i listening 4 knocking and pinkin??

and the moment i get slight pinking wen setting off etc,, but not up the revs,, should i load stock program or a less tune,, i have 3 tunes on the program,, moment its running tune no 3.
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Yes, use the stock program, at the moment you have advanced ignition, which is a bad idea on gas.
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chip,, wats the deal with dreamscience unites,, is it just advanced ignition all the way through?
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Ive not seen the maps, but I would imagine so mate.
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Its a wet nos sytem i found out today.
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sorry, just had to post it.......

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?...arch&plindex=0

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Originally Posted by m_nettleship
Its a wet nos sytem i found out today.
Post a picture of the solenoids, or at least a description please mate.

As I dont really see that it can be a "nos" system if its progressive, as their solenoids are absolute wank and cant handle being used progressively.
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Nos is now fitted, it has a progressive controller with a 11 pound bottle, 2 solanoids red and blue 1 feul 1 nos.

its on 40bhp jets , but need the bottle warmer wired up,, as the pressure is a litttle low,, bottle to cold,,
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Originally Posted by m_nettleship
Nos is now fitted, it has a progressive controller with a 11 pound bottle, 2 solanoids red and blue 1 feul 1 nos.

its on 40bhp jets , but need the bottle warmer wired up,, as the pressure is a litttle low,, bottle to cold,,
thats a wizard of nos kit you should'nt need to touch the timing the kit will be goog to go.

sean
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i no,, visited them yesterday,, need bottle warming up.
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