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Old 23-01-2008, 12:43 PM
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Its a total no brainer really from a "personal development" point of view.

I think he just wants an M5 anyway though

Talking to JJ about the running costs of his might solve that though.
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Something mystical about the place that i just love, its almost like it draws me in. I cant explain it at all.
When you say that to someone who has never been, they edge quietly away from you and look at you funny . Say it to someone who has been, and you both go stary eyed and distant as you go to "that place in your mind" .
Not me... been three times and still don't like it at all

I'm coming over with you guys this year though. get me a bed somewhere Rainbum please. Not in your room either sausage jockey! Thanks
Old 23-01-2008, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Why not an E46 M3? Similar handling characteristics to what you have now, but with just a bit more power .
Dont like them at all. Far too thrashy.
Old 23-01-2008, 01:39 PM
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you need a chipped diesel turbo stu
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Its a total no brainer really from a "personal development" point of view.
Not if your allready appraoching the cars limits its not, thats my whole point. Why you no listen?

I cant find anyone listed anywhere who has gone substantially faster, hence the topic about my thoughts.


I think he just wants an M5 anyway though
I probably will buy one if i can find a nice one as i like them.
Buying one isnt an issue in the slightest, taking one to the ring is the "Issue" hence the topic. If you want me to elaborate, lets pretend i have already bought the M5. Which shall i take?

Talking to JJ about the running costs of his might solve that though.
Why? I do under 2 miles a day now, a massive 12miles per week. And when i do go somewhere its a couple of hours to sparring tournaments and the like. Lovely occasional outings for an M5.
Old 23-01-2008, 01:46 PM
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Does the M5 not fit into a similar bractket to the Evo, i.e. when you had the Macca you didnt want to take that?

Just a thought
Old 23-01-2008, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
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Its a total no brainer really from a "personal development" point of view.
Not if your allready appraoching the cars limits its not, thats my whole point. Why you no listen?

I cant find anyone listed anywhere who has gone substantially faster, hence the topic about my thoughts.


I think he just wants an M5 anyway though
I probably will buy one if i can find a nice one as i like them.
Buying one isnt an issue in the slightest, taking one to the ring is the "Issue" hence the topic. If you want me to elaborate, lets pretend i have already bought the M5. Which shall i take?

Talking to JJ about the running costs of his might solve that though.
Why? I do under 2 miles a day now, a massive 12miles per week. And when i do go somewhere its a couple of hours to sparring tournaments and the like. Lovely occasional outings for an M5.

JJ reckoned he would do a compelte set of rear tyres (ie from new to fucked) in a weekend at the ring, its those running costs I meant, not your daily commute mate.

If you can afford it, go for it with the M5.

It will be easier to pass traffic with, so will allow you to be on the limit for more of the track, as often on the tourist days you end up stuck behind peopel for a few corners etc.
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
JJ reckoned he would do a compelte set of rear tyres (ie from new to fucked) in a weekend at the ring, its those running costs I meant, not your daily commute mate.
Thats because he cant drive.*


* Love ya really James.
Old 23-01-2008, 01:59 PM
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Stu, I know, thats why I thoguht you would have the same problem

*ive so not got a leg to stand on here after ripping my tyres to shreds there, lmao
Old 23-01-2008, 02:01 PM
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How about a nice porsche? There's an article in Redline about the porsches you can afford to owm, some lovely cars in it,

Benni.
Old 23-01-2008, 02:03 PM
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Definitely buy the M5!

If you're gonna hoon in around in a big old 5 series (not my choice on track because of the weight etc), then why not make it the best one you can buy?
Old 23-01-2008, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by RichardPON
Definitely buy the M5!

If you're gonna hoon in around in a big old 5 series (not my choice on track because of the weight etc), then why not make it the best one you can buy?
He has a 3 series currently, not a 5
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Ps

Ask JJ what that fella that owns the 75 experience (ron) thinks of his M5 around the ring, couldnt say enough nice things about it apparently, and he's certianly in a position to comment in a qualified manner.
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Really? How did I not notice that it says exactly that on the first page

In which case, don't get the M5
Old 23-01-2008, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by EsCosRacer
get a 996 instead stu

Big difference in size of investment there, but if he can afford it, its certainly a great car
Old 23-01-2008, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
I stopped only for lunch, fuel or tyre relief. (F1s NEVER again! )
Sorry to be off topic Stu but what did you find wrong with F1's? I'm presuming you mean Goodyear Eagles mate?
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Can't get much better than an M5 round the ring, if you don't get one and have a crack, expect you'll always regret it.
Obviously have the finances to do it, so just do it.

I appreciate all you say, but for me getting pissed past on every straight would wear a little thin before long.
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
*ive so not got a leg to stand on here after ripping my tyres and bodywork to shreds on the armco there, lmao
Agreed.
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
im a cunt
agreed
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Originally Posted by Dan
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I stopped only for lunch, fuel or tyre relief. (F1s NEVER again! )
Sorry to be off topic Stu but what did you find wrong with F1's? I'm presuming you mean Goodyear Eagles mate?
They are simply shite on a Cosworth at the ring.
They are quite soft and get hot very fast so that on such a long and demanding extremely high speed circuit they have goen off after just one hot lap. I had to run stupid low pressures to get them to performanything like decently for more than one lap. After 2 it was honestly like driving on diesel! A few people drove and experienced it after 1 good lap ("Shit, whats wrong with the car, keeps understeering like mad") LOL

It has to be said its largely due to the fact that the sierra cosworths chassis is about as stiff as moist dogshit and thus extremely harsh on tyres.
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
It has to be said its largely due to the fact that the sierra cosworths chassis is about as stiff as moist dogshit
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Why not an E46 M3? Similar handling characteristics to what you have now, but with just a bit more power .
Dont like them at all. Far too thrashy.
Have you driven one at the Ring (which sounds like where most of your big mileage would be done)? As I personally think that this is ALL the car you need to enjoy yourself at the Ring (sod worrying about it not feeling torquey enough in normal driving ). I NEVER found Stevie's car wanting in any area and I enjoyed the laps I had in it more than any other car I have driven at the Ring bar my own .

The fact that the car with very few mods (brakes, chip, induction, suspension and tyres) would be capable of a sub 8 min BTG (in the right hands), does it for me . If I didn't like my car so much, it would be my choice . However, I appreciate the "each to their own" adage .

I appreciate what you are saying though, so if we are able to get together at the Ring, I would gladly sit gunshot to see if I thought the car had more to deliver .
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Something mystical about the place that i just love, its almost like it draws me in. I cant explain it at all.
When you say that to someone who has never been, they edge quietly away from you and look at you funny . Say it to someone who has been, and you both go stary eyed and distant as you go to "that place in your mind" .
How bloody true that is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Have you driven one at the Ring (which sounds like where most of your big mileage would be done)? As I personally think that this is ALL the car you need to enjoy yourself at the Ring (sod worrying about it not feeling torquey enough in normal driving )
I have driven plenty when modifying them and i agree its the almost perfect ring Taxi, but i hate they way they drive as a daily driver and I refuse to buy a car i dont like as a daily drive just to have fun in it for a couple of days a year. [/quote]


I appreciate what you are saying though, so if we are able to get together at the Ring, I would gladly sit gunshot to see if I thought the car had more to deliver .
Thanks Pal, now that i would appreciate. Last time you went round with me i was terrified and had only done about 4 laps i think.
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Originally Posted by Dan
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I stopped only for lunch, fuel or tyre relief. (F1s NEVER again! )
Sorry to be off topic Stu but what did you find wrong with F1's? I'm presuming you mean Goodyear Eagles mate?
They are simply shite on a Cosworth at the ring.
They are quite soft and get hot very fast so that on such a long and demanding extremely high speed circuit they have goen off after just one hot lap. I had to run stupid low pressures to get them to performanything like decently for more than one lap. After 2 it was honestly like driving on diesel! A few people drove and experienced it after 1 good lap ("Shit, whats wrong with the car, keeps understeering like mad") LOL

It has to be said its largely due to the fact that the sierra cosworths chassis is about as stiff as moist dogshit and thus extremely harsh on tyres.
Mine should be ok for road use then, I hope! Thanks Stu
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Originally Posted by Dan
Mine should be ok for road use then, I hope! Thanks Stu
I rate them well as a Cosworth road tyre personally pal.


*topic cleared of bollox. Use the muppet room.
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I only use F1's on my car, may have PS2's on the front if I'm feeling flush at the time.
Grip-wear ratio can't be bettered IMO.
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Get an M5,i can vouch for them being the bollocks on the ring having owned one and been there 5times in it,ask comedy dan i took him for a passenger lap in mine,just get some decent pads and discs as they eat them on the front. I personally am not bothered about times and comparisons,its nice to know what your doing but i think pushing yourself against the clock can only end in tears
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Originally Posted by 500NEIL
Get an M5,i can vouch for them being the bollocks on the ring having owned one and been there 5times in it,ask comedy dan i took him for a passenger lap in mine
Hi, I know how good they are there Neil, been round teh ring in a few, including the new one with all its toys such as thermal imaging. But that wasnt really the point of the topic TBH. Theres no doubt the cars capable, just look at the ring taxi for any proof you may need. I have almost decided against it now anyway, although if i have found one by then it may be hard to just leave it here. Perhaps i should get Nicole to bring the M5 too....
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You won't regret it,i was gutted when i had to sell mine. They are a top all round car that just tick all the boxes
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Originally Posted by 500NEIL
They are a top all round car that just tick all the boxes
Agree on that.
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ive sold my m5 to buy an e46 m3
havent had the m3 on track yet which may change my mind,but at the mo im missing my m5,after 2 weeks of being in the m3!
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Originally Posted by fordsportjay
ive sold my m5 to buy an e46 m3
havent had the m3 on track yet which may change my mind,but at the mo im missing my m5,after 2 weeks of being in the m3!
Gutless and harsh as a daily driver arent they mate?
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why dont u just get another cossie......go on u know u can feel the force.......i can recomend a good tuner if u like.................
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Originally Posted by pete mcrash
why dont u just get another cossie......go on u know u can feel the force.......i can recomend a good tuner if u like.................
Because we are talking about cars that can handle the Nurburgring at a decent rate of knots, safely and reliably Pete. Cosworths simply dont fit into this discussion.
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why did u have to bring "reliability" into it.......................
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Also he brought safety and speed into it.
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Originally Posted by James-W
Also he brought safety and speed into it.
........doh!!!!.........


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