Is Autronic the way forward??
20-10-2004, 09:37 PM
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just finding my feet
think what dingy is aying is that for some people there aint a difference
most people just wanna ecu that can do so much and autronic is prob too many features for some
tbh i looked into autronic and it was mtoo much for what i needed hence i never bought it
if i new about simons ecu and price ( yes thats the deciding factor for me as im tighter that thrush in a pub 2 days before payday
) i would have bought that
in the end i got a very goot deal and a dummy proof loom that any idiot could work out what to do ( even me ) of christian that does all i needed it too 
but wasnt far off the price of what SECS would cost though ( but was a good deal though
)
i really cant see where this argumant is going as you both have chosen options ya happy with
ya both right if ya happy with ya desisions just one costs more than the other
bit pointless tbh
oh and dingy what ya charge to make a coosie loom incase ya aint replyed
im interested thats why ding
most people just wanna ecu that can do so much and autronic is prob too many features for some
tbh i looked into autronic and it was mtoo much for what i needed hence i never bought it
if i new about simons ecu and price ( yes thats the deciding factor for me as im tighter that thrush in a pub 2 days before payday
) i would have bought thatin the end i got a very goot deal and a dummy proof loom that any idiot could work out what to do ( even me
) of christian that does all i needed it too but wasnt far off the price of what SECS would cost though ( but was a good deal though
)i really cant see where this argumant is going as you both have chosen options ya happy with
ya both right if ya happy with ya desisions just one costs more than the other
bit pointless tbh
oh and dingy what ya charge to make a coosie loom incase ya aint replyed
im interested thats why ding
20-10-2004, 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ADUSR32
has any body used the link system over here as i believe a lot of ozzy's and kiwi's use that system?
20-10-2004, 09:40 PM
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From the posts readin, it sounds like MAD customers use autronic for a simple reason that mark doesn't or can't map standard cosworth management.
That to me doesn't sell it at all, as it appears only MAD customers are pushing this over an ECU with a £1500 value to one that will do all the same things as the other regarding power delivery @ £500.
So as topic says, is autronic the way forward, then the answer is simle...
Depends on how much money you got and who you want to map it.
If the answer means you can use a pectel system then the answer is surely no its not, its an alternative.
That to me doesn't sell it at all, as it appears only MAD customers are pushing this over an ECU with a £1500 value to one that will do all the same things as the other regarding power delivery @ £500.
So as topic says, is autronic the way forward, then the answer is simle...
Depends on how much money you got and who you want to map it.
If the answer means you can use a pectel system then the answer is surely no its not, its an alternative.
20-10-2004, 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by madevelopments
RS Gus I can map any Ecu someone has got in to with writeable software however I choose not to, Being the UK Importer for Autronic it is against my interest to map other Ecu's, Also the Ford market is tiny for me for Autronic I do far more other cars with these units,
As for comparing Ecu's I belive just like Simon that the diff Ecu's we sell are some of the best out there.
Mark
As for comparing Ecu's I belive just like Simon that the diff Ecu's we sell are some of the best out there.
Mark
20-10-2004, 09:46 PM
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so being in IT, that means if its got a GUI i can do but if its assembly i can't....
A person who can learn software can map it, if they can map engines as far as i understand it...
No need to shout out me ranj, don't mean i think that the autronic is worth 3 times the price of the SECS, cause not one post on this thread as said otherwise.
A person who can learn software can map it, if they can map engines as far as i understand it...
No need to shout out me ranj, don't mean i think that the autronic is worth 3 times the price of the SECS, cause not one post on this thread as said otherwise.
20-10-2004, 09:50 PM
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im not gona turn this into autronic v secs as clearly this is what your aiming for
so if someone choses not to map a particlar brand means they cant map it ??
its caled trying to control a market they have entered (simon=secs mark-autronic)
so if someone choses not to map a particlar brand means they cant map it ??
its caled trying to control a market they have entered (simon=secs mark-autronic)
20-10-2004, 09:53 PM
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Ranj that has fuck all to do with it.
You go to a tuner with a cossie, as mark is a cossie expert and he says he can't do it cause i sell autronic now....wtf is that all about.
I also aint trying to turn it into a SECS VS MAD thing either, wtf does that concern me....
The topic says "is autronic the way forward"
To which i think, not really, its an alternative.....depending on budget
You go to a tuner with a cossie, as mark is a cossie expert and he says he can't do it cause i sell autronic now....wtf is that all about.
I also aint trying to turn it into a SECS VS MAD thing either, wtf does that concern me....
The topic says "is autronic the way forward"
To which i think, not really, its an alternative.....depending on budget
20-10-2004, 09:57 PM
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fair enough YUM, i aint coming on here starting war's about MAD.....just asking questions...
No one has said reasons why its better for the extra 1000 pounds yet....
I aint arsed anymore....will stick with the level 8 as its way more advance than teh rest of my car
No one has said reasons why its better for the extra 1000 pounds yet....
I aint arsed anymore....will stick with the level 8 as its way more advance than teh rest of my car
20-10-2004, 09:58 PM
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Enough already peeps..... 
I cant beleive this thread has gone to 4 pages
I think Mark and Myself and our respective "followers" have all made
our points now !!
I cant beleive this thread has gone to 4 pages
I think Mark and Myself and our respective "followers" have all made
our points now !!
20-10-2004, 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by dingy
fair enough YUM, i aint coming on here starting war's about MAD.....just asking questions...
No one has said reasons why its better for the extra 1000 pounds yet....
I aint arsed anymore....will stick with the level 8 as its way more advance than the rest of my car
No one has said reasons why its better for the extra 1000 pounds yet....
I aint arsed anymore....will stick with the level 8 as its way more advance than the rest of my car
20-10-2004, 10:08 PM
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Not read any of the last two pages, BUT Dingy I know you have a bit of spare time now and again so why not have a chat with Simon and build him some looms??? Surely there is a basic spec that you can build that he can offer with the SECS? Surely this would make it more marketable to cretain potential customers....
I think that would be produce a 'symbiotic' kinda relationship...
God this 3rd bottle of Red is really kicking in
I think that would be produce a 'symbiotic' kinda relationship...
God this 3rd bottle of Red is really kicking in
20-10-2004, 10:08 PM
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I cant beleive your still dissing Mark ...Berleive me he knows more than MOST...i should knowas he hasbeen teaching ME...so Gus before you say even "ima racing can map SECS" think again...Mark has REALLY helped aswell as Karl......Dingy your gripe is with Ahmed NOT MAD...so stop being childish
...Berleive me he knows more than MOST...i should knowas he hasbeen teaching ME...so Gus before you say even "ima racing can map SECS" think again...Mark has REALLY helped aswell as Karl......Dingy your gripe is with Ahmed NOT MAD...so stop being childish
20-10-2004, 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by SECS
I think Mark and Myself and our respective "followers" have all made our points now !!
Mark is a mate and has helped me achieve the results I had really been seeking + hopefully in time I can achieve my new goals again. Followers.....pmsl, I don't follow anyone and anyone that believes that they are a follower of a tuner or a person that makes/sells ecu's really does need to grow up and think of what they really should be following instead of bickering and ass licking.
They are cars at the end of the day, some people take their hobbies and interests a little more serious than others however I think that this post has exercised more than enough bullshit over sense now.
Lastly, AUTRONIC? Cossie management? SECS? PECTEL? or whatever, it's your call what you use and who you choose to map it. Everyone on here bigs up what they have for the sake of them having it. You will never find a person on here with a certain type of ecu stating that another one is as good or better. Well hear this I personally think that Pectel T6 is just as good as Autronic SM2 however if Mark is mapping it I go Autronic route and if Ahmed was mapping it I would go Pectel route...simple!
I have my personal reasons on choosing who maps or has mapped my car which I do not wish to disclose on here as everyone can appreciate. New Autronic SM4 is out very soon and I will be checking it out fully and hopefully using that for my new engine. Peace - Sunny.
20-10-2004, 10:16 PM
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YUM360,
It is clear that you believe all cossies that dont have a BRAND new wiring loom are sh*t.
Most people only replace items on their car when they fail or look like they are
going to fail (or have money to burn).
Not everyone "NEEDS" to replace there wiring loom.
Yes, cossies do suffer ECU wiring loom problems as does any car of that age.
It is a fact that Autronic on cossies requires a different wiring loom and so it must
be replaced if that ecu is used.
As a comparison, your ESCOS is probally araound 8-10 years old,
By the same logic - you had better reshell it as its old even though it
may be in perfect condition........
It is clear that you believe all cossies that dont have a BRAND new wiring loom are sh*t.
Most people only replace items on their car when they fail or look like they are
going to fail (or have money to burn).
Not everyone "NEEDS" to replace there wiring loom.
Yes, cossies do suffer ECU wiring loom problems as does any car of that age.
It is a fact that Autronic on cossies requires a different wiring loom and so it must
be replaced if that ecu is used.
As a comparison, your ESCOS is probally araound 8-10 years old,
By the same logic - you had better reshell it as its old even though it
may be in perfect condition........
20-10-2004, 10:27 PM
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Think your going overboard about the shell thing mate.
It was just a finding that cossies ford wiring looms are crap mate and think alot of people would agree there mate??
I only said about the loom due to the fact that yes your system is just plug and play and a great system for the price but would you with a loom that is 15 years of age. One you have purchased your ecu and a home made loom from dingy for £350 of a pectel loom for £450 it then brings a diffrent mater on it????
Dave
It was just a finding that cossies ford wiring looms are crap mate and think alot of people would agree there mate??
I only said about the loom due to the fact that yes your system is just plug and play and a great system for the price but would you with a loom that is 15 years of age. One you have purchased your ecu and a home made loom from dingy for £350 of a pectel loom for £450 it then brings a diffrent mater on it????
Dave
20-10-2004, 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by SECS
sunny, Another well constructed Madette post 
My friend take a look at yourself your not making yourself look very good and it doesnt do your business any justice either. In my post I talk about imo Pectel T6 being as good as Autronic SM2 as I know both the ecu's. This makes my post a Maddette post? Quite clearly completely the oppersite. It's clear that the real reason why your posting shit is because I never compared anything in my example with SECS and the reason behind that is that I have not had any experience with SECS as I have never needed to...either way like I give a shit! After checking your attitude and your replies on here as a customer I would be very put off even expoloring the SECS avenue.
20-10-2004, 11:01 PM
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sunny, Your post (up a few now) started out being a genuine well balanced
note and then you sum it up by saying...
This is why I dubbed you a "madette". Just had to get another ozzy "plug" in.
I DO have respect for Mark/MAD and Autronic for that matter as I have said above
on this thread earlier on but your opinion is blatently "everything but autronic is cr*p"
hence my reply that you have taken offence to !
And as a matter of fact, my business is doing well despite your efforts to bring it down !
note and then you sum it up by saying...
.....New Autronic SM4 is out very soon and I will be checking it out fully and hopefully using that for my new engine. ....
I DO have respect for Mark/MAD and Autronic for that matter as I have said above
on this thread earlier on but your opinion is blatently "everything but autronic is cr*p"
hence my reply that you have taken offence to !
And as a matter of fact, my business is doing well despite your efforts to bring it down !
20-10-2004, 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by dingy
Your right there ranj they are different, porkies car will maybe not do 200mph, and is a diff spec, but it laps circuits at an unbleviable pace.
My car WOULD do 200mph easy IMHO!
BUT not at Brunters in its current spec.... No way! What Rod did was VERY VERY impressive!
However stick 150bhp of GAS up the Sierra and it WOULD PISS 200mph even at Brunters!!!!
All IMHO of course...
Didn't mean to do that 
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sorry for being thick, but what wiring lloms do you need to run these managment systems?
L8? L6? or do they all have there own looms which you get with the 'box of tricks'
L8? L6? or do they all have there own looms which you get with the 'box of tricks'
