Is Autronic the way forward??
20-10-2004, 08:59 PM
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20-10-2004, 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by dingy
Not trying to ruin it, just asking a techincal question.
as porkies made simular power to rods, what do you get for your double in cost ?
as porkies made simular power to rods, what do you get for your double in cost ?
20-10-2004, 09:08 PM
#131
both made around 600bhp mark - seems simular to me.
Torque is down to cam choice and mapping tho, and not down to the management surely.
As the secs is new and porkies is only one i know that is kinda mapped on it, then it was a fair comparision to the autronic used in rods.
If you all want to gang up on me just cause i asked a few questions then fine...
Lot of fast cars out there don't use autronic also.
Torque is down to cam choice and mapping tho, and not down to the management surely.
As the secs is new and porkies is only one i know that is kinda mapped on it, then it was a fair comparision to the autronic used in rods.
If you all want to gang up on me just cause i asked a few questions then fine...
Lot of fast cars out there don't use autronic also.
20-10-2004, 09:10 PM
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think pectel is the prefered option for most people, but simons ecu is about to take off in the ford world then who knows 
dingy what do you charge to make brand new cossie looms
dingy what do you charge to make brand new cossie looms
20-10-2004, 09:11 PM
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RANJ,
The ECU does NOT dictate the power gained from an engine.
It is the build of the engine and the ability of the mapper to get the best.
Aftermarket ECU's just provide a user friendly and available to all way of
making these adjustments and allow finer tuning than the originals.
The ECU does NOT dictate the power gained from an engine.
It is the build of the engine and the ability of the mapper to get the best.
Aftermarket ECU's just provide a user friendly and available to all way of
making these adjustments and allow finer tuning than the originals.
20-10-2004, 09:12 PM
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rods engine is completly diff to porkies, as lee and rod will agree
im not saying autronic/secs is the best, just used to acheive what rod wanted etc
i cud have gone pectel t6 if i wanted to, but chose autronic ,
i chose as product had shown its potential as per my link etc etc
im not saying autronic/secs is the best, just used to acheive what rod wanted etc
i cud have gone pectel t6 if i wanted to, but chose autronic ,
i chose as product had shown its potential as per my link etc etc
20-10-2004, 09:13 PM
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RANJ,
The ECU does NOT dictate the power gained from an engine.
It is the build of the engine and the ability of the mapper to get the best.
Aftermarket ECU's just provide a user friendly and available to all way of
making these adjustments and allow finer tuning than the originals.
The ECU does NOT dictate the power gained from an engine.
It is the build of the engine and the ability of the mapper to get the best.
Aftermarket ECU's just provide a user friendly and available to all way of
making these adjustments and allow finer tuning than the originals.
Simon
i know that dude
20-10-2004, 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Rs Gus
its a yb all said and done just different bore/stroke and crank and rods 
and it has over priced autronic on it cause thats all mark can map 
and it has over priced autronic on it cause thats all mark can map
20-10-2004, 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by dingy
simular means is simular, not the same ranj.
As its OZ'y product, do many fast cars over there use it, like the rigoli brothers etc ?
As its OZ'y product, do many fast cars over there use it, like the rigoli brothers etc ?
Dingy
Simular?? Dont think that the owners would say that, and are totally diffrent in every way only thing simular is they are both Fords mate
20-10-2004, 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by RANJ
Originally Posted by dingy
Not trying to ruin it, just asking a techincal question.
as porkies made simular power to rods, what do you get for your double in cost ?
as porkies made simular power to rods, what do you get for your double in cost ?
Rods is a stroker engine... over 2.0 litres and MASSIVELY more expensive than my engine. My engine has VASTLY different power characteristics and delivery than Rods... my engine is still coming stronger and stronger over 7500rpm. Surely you realise that?If you think that Autronic management gives Rod the 100lbft Torque extra then you know less about engines than me
AND my engine made over 450lbft so you are 'Torquing'
COMPLETE bollox as well 
NOT taking ANYTHING away from Rods engine though. He loves huge torque engines and Mark has clearly delivered
You can't argue with the results either and the fact that it gets used daily 
20-10-2004, 09:17 PM
#142
Your right there ranj they are different, porkies car will maybe not do 200mph, and is a diff spec, but it laps circuits at an unbleviable pace.
How ever they still made about 600bhp, and one is half the price of the other, no one yet has really said why you should pay more for the product.
How ever they still made about 600bhp, and one is half the price of the other, no one yet has really said why you should pay more for the product.
20-10-2004, 09:18 PM
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Your right there ranj they are different, porkies car will maybe not do 200mph, and is a diff spec, but it laps circuits at an unbleviable pace.
porkies is track car
rod is road car
20-10-2004, 09:20 PM
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RS Gus I can map any Ecu someone has got in to with writeable software however I choose not to, Being the UK Importer for Autronic it is against my interest to map other Ecu's, Also the Ford market is tiny for me for Autronic I do far more other cars with these units,
As for comparing Ecu's I belive just like Simon that the diff Ecu's we sell are some of the best out there.
Mark
As for comparing Ecu's I belive just like Simon that the diff Ecu's we sell are some of the best out there.
Mark
20-10-2004, 09:20 PM
#148
Yum, they still made simular power, which is what i said.
Regards less of engine spec.
Whats the limitations of the half price system over the autronic....
How does this compare to teh GEMS or the Motec....
Not comparing Pectel as thats probably not gonna be around soon
Regards less of engine spec.
Whats the limitations of the half price system over the autronic....
How does this compare to teh GEMS or the Motec....
Not comparing Pectel as thats probably not gonna be around soon
20-10-2004, 09:21 PM
#150
just finding my feet
ranj any tuner ya go to will recomend what he prefers as thats the best option for him and you ( but i know ya know that already)
pul hills prefers pectel as he knows it well
what i dont understand tbh is why sunny removed his pectel to autronic, surely there the same for use
nit a dig but i always wondered that, doe that mean that pectel wpuld not be efficiant for the high speed runs the mad man likes ( and 178 takes real fooking balls in a nurses car )
it proved autronic is good though so
just as simons has too
then quite right what gus has said, cossie management works well too, just its not really designed for people to play with it and ya dont get the support i would guess
tbh id rather get SEC's but thats cause hes a ford fan and think just like we all prefer our tuners ect that we know think we should support the fan of our brand or cars
unless he makes a real good ecu then forgets his routes and charges what he feels
but simon has made a perfect ecu for alot of ford people at a fooking wicked price 
simon fair play to ya
i payed alot for a management system thats welllllllllll out of date now as the aftermarket game is getting advanced soooooooo quick
thats the only thing thatb autronic is gonna have is the good ideas first , like the new stuff comming out
pul hills prefers pectel as he knows it well
what i dont understand tbh is why sunny removed his pectel to autronic, surely there the same for use
nit a dig but i always wondered that, doe that mean that pectel wpuld not be efficiant for the high speed runs the mad man likes ( and 178 takes real fooking balls in a nurses car
)it proved autronic is good though so
just as simons has too
then quite right what gus has said, cossie management works well too, just its not really designed for people to play with it and ya dont get the support i would guess
tbh id rather get SEC's but thats cause hes a ford fan and think just like we all prefer our tuners ect that we know think we should support the fan of our brand or cars
unless he makes a real good ecu then forgets his routes and charges what he feels
but simon has made a perfect ecu for alot of ford people
at a fooking wicked price simon fair play to ya
i payed alot for a management system thats welllllllllll out of date now as the aftermarket game is getting advanced soooooooo quick
thats the only thing thatb autronic is gonna have is the good ideas first , like the new stuff comming out
20-10-2004, 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by RANJ
Your right there ranj they are different, porkies car will maybe not do 200mph, and is a diff spec, but it laps circuits at an unbleviable pace.
porkies is track car
rod is road car
So why is the autronic different and worth the extra coin ?
20-10-2004, 09:24 PM
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20-10-2004, 09:25 PM
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20-10-2004, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ADUSR32
has any body used the link system over here as i believe a lot of ozzy's and kiwi's use that system?
20-10-2004, 09:27 PM
#157
Good answer ranj from someone who doesn't actually know the answer...
I would choose the secs over the autronic on a simple price issue, as no one on here as said any reason why you would pay more than double for an ecu that doesn't do anything else, except maybe requires and auto electrician to install it.
I still aint trying to fall out with anyone here.....
Simple q really like a GRP A and an Escort cossie head gasket....paymore for less etc...
I would choose the secs over the autronic on a simple price issue, as no one on here as said any reason why you would pay more than double for an ecu that doesn't do anything else, except maybe requires and auto electrician to install it.
I still aint trying to fall out with anyone here.....
Simple q really like a GRP A and an Escort cossie head gasket....paymore for less etc...
20-10-2004, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by YUM360
20-10-2004, 09:29 PM
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i wudnt pay for my ecu if i didnt reseacrh it mate,
but i really cant be arsed with typing out features etc etc as its been done to many times, im sure if u search on here u find sum posts
but i really cant be arsed with typing out features etc etc as its been done to many times, im sure if u search on here u find sum posts