are they any good can they be mapped?

 

i dont think they can be mapped bud , just dialled in for a set amount of boost ,.

 

injector duration can be mapped for various load points as in engine speed and boost pressure, not many though

 

they can be mapped, but its crude

 

would it be ideal to use on a 240/270 bhp engine on a series 1?

 

No, as it cant control ignition timing, and the "mapping" is just a crude set of dials, its "ok" for sorting out your fuelling, but its never going to be considered ideal for anything.

Ideal would be putting it on Pectel T6!

 

just go efi mate if youve got the funds doesnt cost as much as people think

 

what do i need mate to put efi on car?

 

Cressy, I have used these multiple times on Saxo/106 Supercharger conversions and whilst they are "crude"(easy to setup in my opinion) they were pretty reliable for me.

If you have ever seen the Saxo v's M3 video on Youtube we built the car as a demo and it was mapped with an MF2 and 2 extra injectors, with another unit to fool the stock ECU and it ran for 15k miles with over 220bhp at wheels, done multiple 160mph runs(on long ratio box) and too many to count 140mph runs(short box) and believe me the owner ABUSED the car. His first charger gave up after 2 weeks when he done 25 miles on motorway at 135mph which was around 7000rpm so charger was spinning at over 110000rpm hahaha The other cars we done weren't treated any better.

So if you have everything else working and just need the extra fuel I would say go for it. Obviously an EFi system would be better but it should at the cost.

You set the map points by turning 6-7 pots on the board and they go from 2000rpm-8000rpm if I remember right, it then fills in the rest of the range itself. We mapped with narrow band but had it checked on rollers normally too. With wideband you would be laughing.

 

Change the management, if its not up to the task you car requires

Although EFI would be better than a fifth injector, its still a very cost effective conversion compared to an engine rebuild.
Once you exceed the fuelling or any other capability's of an ECU you should start to consider an alternative management system rather than try to work around these limitations imho with a fifth injector and similar

I don't personally believe you can do things well with champagne idea's and lemonade budget, if you want a good reliable power you have to be willing to spend the money to obtain this.

champagne idea's and lemonade budgets are the reason there are so many ropey and unreliable modified cars out there imho

 

i`m just rebuilding my engine mate at the minute thats why i`m looking at other mods&managment opition why the car`s in bits would love cossie managment but car`nt afford it so looking for other ways toget a good relieable 240/270bhp i think everyone would love a never ending budget but i`m not that lucky all input welcome more options the better.and if people have any parts for sale pm me with what you`v got and price

 

Superb bit of kit, can control upto 4 injectors, giving fully interpolated 3D mapping of fuel. Much cheaper than EFi, and you retain the transient fuel control of KE Jet, which few mappers will get right on efi.

Ignition control is still limited to advancing the whole curve with the dizzy, but ideal for a 280hp CVH.

 

thanks rick just need to sort a price out with him now them

 

mf2 5th injector driver were can i buy one from?

 

I believe MSD sells one?

http://60gp.ovh.net/~motorspo/pages/5thinjectors.htm

 

theirs is their own driver though, not the aquamist one, no doubt its a good product but im not sure how it measures up against the mf2. Often get mf2's apearing on fleabay for not bad money

 

just rang mds they don`t sell 5th injector drivers at all

 

i had one lined up from ebay but the bloke sold it to someone else only e-mailed him 6 times about it

 

Try calling msd then and not mds .

 

THEY DON`T DO THEM EITHIER

 

 

If fitted with a map sensor, the mf2 can be setup for different boost's, but the disssy will still need to be setup up each time for each boost to get the best results.



Pointless using a narrow band.

 

yes they do, look under products

http://www.remapping.co.uk/

 

i rang them today mate who ever answered the phone told my they don`t sell them or was lying

 

Ohh the website says they do

Perhaps the website is lying, who knows