Fiecos Dan

i dont know about Pro's core design's now, but they weren't that good a 2 years ago for cossie stuff.

Jay,

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funny u say that i hear the same and it seems strange when they have this name and cars like euans have to have exstensive work done to a pro alloy jobie to make it work

Charlie Chalk

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Thought Euans was a full custom one? with a modded RS500 cooler? Or am I barking up the wrong tree

Stoo

Euans is a Pro alloy one AND an RS500 one welded together. Ultra fat. Just like him

Charlie Chalk

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ah ok, I thought the base one was a Custom one made by AVA with a RS500 one

Jay,

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ok it was a a 500 pro alloy but had to be remodded for his spec ! so if this is the case a 500 rep should be a 500 rep right . rod tarry runs a genuine 500 cooler with no mods , imo radtec have a better core than pro alloy

Charlie Chalk

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What was modded on Euans anyway?

Jay,

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double sized bottom half , bigger end tanks iirc

MAD EVO 4

at the end of the day all the top companies are good and all have their own faults

Jay,

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exactly

Stoo

Couldn't really tell you mate. It will have had alot of work but I'm not sure. I have a Pic which shows you the thickness, it has to sit at an angle to fit in.

TommyB

Pro Alloy are great products.

Quality is stunning.

MAD EVO 4

NEIL A

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I have a 60mm core proalloy cooler getting fitted to mine, think the core design has changed from the older style. Will be good to see what it is like compared to Euans one during testing.

MAD EVO 4

keep us posted mate

Ginge !

if anyone wants the core from pro alloy i can get it,,, as they dont make the core

they make the end tanks and weld them together

nissens supply the core for pro alloy, im sure they also supply the core for radtec but im NOT sure totally about that

remember that before you all blame pro alloy for core designs are shite blah blah blah,,,, they dont make that part

Fiecos Dan

Give me 1 example of a aftermarket intercooler firm that dont buy the core's in?

Its all about R+D, and testing of different cores till they get one made up or find the best core for the job.

JonnyBravo

I've got Pro Alloys coolers for my Escort but I have used Pete @ Ali Fab for other bits more recently.

He can make you just about anything from a drawing

MAD EVO 4

I can give you a company that makes their own cores

Ginge !

dan that was my point though, cant blame pro alloy for the cores being shite as theres a good chance the radtec's have the same

mate my company get there radiators made by nissens cause they the best out there !!!!

ps: you fancy welding a diff

Ginge !

what company,,,, as cores are like pipes,,,,, most places do as dan says and buy them due to cores having multi applications and someplaces hold lots and lots in stock

MAD EVO 4

A company called Docking based at Silverstone, they produce rads & intercoolers for most of the f1 teams from the early 80's to present day, plus they designed & built the rads for the mclaren f1 and gtr spec road/ race cars

Ginge !

and they MAKE there CORES !!!


????

MAD EVO 4

yes designed to their own spec, hence the cost for a mclaren f1 rad is 4.5k +vat each and it runs 2

Daviet

dont say that ginge will be intouch with nissens tomorow buying cores and knocking out mclaren rads on his lunch hour at half that price
in between the 909 hubs hes busy doing

MAD EVO 4

JonnyBravo

K.Goa

quite happy with my proalloy stuff. Got the 60mm core cooler, rad, fans, tanks. All seems to be of a high buildquality.

Fiecos Dan

I think you can blame Proalloy, they might not of design'd the core, but they decided to use the one they are.
or you could look @ it, that they havent done as much R+D as the better core'd option's.

either way some of the others might be using the same core,
but the results i've seen on my old design AH item, was alot better than other cars running Proalloys core of the same eara. And since i've now got a better core, but not tested it yet.

i can do your diff if you want.

Jay,

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do you know i was guna post that dan but couldnt be arsed as sometimes it like flogging a dead horse as people do love a brand and a arse lick

but good one dan

Fiecos Dan

i cant comment on there newer stuff, as of yet not found anyone to test them like i do.


Hold at full boost @ low speed (60mph), using the brakes, till ACT's go thro the roof (50oC +)
Then let go of the brakes and go thro the gears, then hold it again @ 165-175 mph on the brakes till the ACT settles @ a peak point.

even on 29oC ambients, on my cossie running 29psi, i got the same results of 43/44oC over and over again (with my ACT gauge in the inlet, and the ecu monitor with sensor in boost pipe, and when i swapped the sensor positionings around, got the same results.
And with the water inj on, with 0.6 jet = peak of 38oC.

MAD EVO 4

Fair point made

Sorry to sound dumb but who is the AH company do they have a web site ?

Fiecos Dan

AH fabrications,

Alex, he does most of the Demon Tweaks stuff, but deals with alot more competition stuff, like some of the big boys in ralley and Ralley X.

MAD EVO 4

oh really we have used his breathers and bottles in the best and they have been very well made

Fiecos Dan

Ah fabs, Speak to Alex, 01432 354704, say Danny (fiesta cossie) gave you his number.

MAD EVO 4

cheers mate, ive noted that number and i will call him in the new yr, where abouts is he based ?




so thats

RADTEC
AH FABS
PRO ALLOY

to call now

Daviet

when all the big powered cars go to pro alloy for the custom stuff do they get a different type of core than off the shelf items?
i thought eauns cooler was a genuine rs500 cooler and a pro alloy 500 joined together.
i got a radtec cooler and rad and both seem to do the job touch wood

Ginge !

mate i aint got time to fuck about pissing with custom stuff when ive got a busy job already that i spend 50 hours a week doing work constantly

designing a core or buying a core in a design they already use,, what makes mroe sence

oh and as for price,,, its part of live, a few months ago at the time i sell toyota lucida exhaust systems for 212 quid trade to garages,, they cost us 14 quid to produce but nobody else at the time made em and they was 500 from toyota

honda and rover systems dont cost as much as we sell em for,, but we can and so we do

its business,,, its how capitalist countrys work i guess

dan,, having looked at the redeisgn of a exhast system and looking into it,,, i can tell you DO spend alot of time looking at actual parts rather than just brands and going with what works


ps: ill pm about diff

Martin-Hadland

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That's not true! Ask them for a fuel cell like mine or Porkie's and that's exactly what you get, same goes for the other parts.. Have never used Radtec myself but compared to Proalloy their fabrication looks agricultural

KSA-Cossie

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Very good stuff radtec.