im intrested in getting one, 55/56 plate

my old one, toyota hiluxwas stolen and burnt out in liverpool a few month back, just wanted some feedback on the navara

cheers

 

i got a 03 single cab

quite nice really, quite good on juice aslong as you dont cain it

i use mine to tow, seems mint with that too plenty of grunt could do with a little more top end thou

just heard that the cam tends to let go around the 60 thou mark, 5k to go and will let you know more

 

one of the guys i work with owns a new shape nivara 4.0 die hard model

he loves it though he just poses with it

all the managers of my company have them aswell but there company vehicles,,,,,, they need the "trucks" to carry there laptops i guess

the older ones alittle agriculteral in feel,, though so is the hilux, new shape ones are plush inside,,,,, AND THEY DO THEM IN AUTOS TOO

 

Come and have a go in my ranger,, i prefer it to a navara (used one for a wk) and there much cheaper

 

Probably more likely that these vehicles are classed as commercial, and up till this year, company commecial vehicles aren't subject to tax like like company non-commercial vechicles (like a Mondeo for example) are.

But now the government have got wise and realised that people are having pick ups like HiLux's, Navara's, L200's etc and imposed a tax levy on ALL company vehicles, commecial or not, so we all get fucked

 

that will definatly be why this is

 

still aint as much as a company car though, i KNOW why they drive them, i aint a fucking moron

just find it funny that the director of my company has one and it a auto

its why MOST people have them,,, it aint no where NEAR like a company car though no matter what you think

i was paying 80 quid a month on my volvo company car

 

I use one for work all the time. Infact were on out 3rd one. I think there great, 174bhp standard form do around 30mpg and tax is under Ł100 a year! We do allot of towing with ours and it's ideal.

The only thing I would say is make sure you get one that’s in warranty as we've had some big problems, like the rear wheels not driving on the 4x4, and the first one we had was an auto and that just decided to die and not go into gear.

Anyway we test drove loads of double cabs. And out of the lot I would have a Navara (new shape) or the new Hilux with the 3.0 Land Cruiser engine.

 

What isn't as much as a company car? The tax on a commercial? Err, yes it is.... Ł3k removal of tax free earnings, same as a company car. Ł500 tax on company paid fuel, same as a car...

 

thrush the guys at my place pay about 10 quid a month company car tax... they got leather trimmed full speced nivara's for that

i had a volvo S40 1.6 with leather trim,, cost me 80 quid a month( both have petrol card)

80 quid a month,,,,,, 10 quid a month,,,,,,,, whats thats the same ???

dont get why you being taxed soo much though

 

i guessits cause theres no need to take the van home ?

same work location to arrive so travel to work is personal ???

 

they are a tax cut, that swhy there is so many of them on the road


everyone has taken advantage of this

 

Ginge, the "deal" set out by the government on company vehicles, commercial or not, is you lose Ł3000 worth of tax free income. So, if your tax code states you get, say, Ł5225 of tax free income, this is reduced to Ł2225. Take another Ł500 off that for fuel tax, you now are only allowed Ł1725 of tax free income. So in essence, you pay MORE in tax every month. So if you were paying 23% tax, you are now paying 25% tax... Follow me?

Now, a lot of companies also charge a "fee" or "contribution" for company vehicles. Mine is Ł21.50 a month.

But the Ł10 and Ł80 a month is neither here nor there, as what I am talking about is the tax levy on tax free income due to the new company vehicle rules.

 

thrush my extra tax was 80 quid a month, s60 would have been higher i was told as a luxery car is more

 

Friend of mine has had one since new (55 plate)

he is getting rid of it ASAP as he cant put up with the amount of things that keep going wrong with it..
spends lots of time back at nissan, including once because it wouldnt go
above 20 mph lol..

sure his must be a one off though..lol

only person i know with one.


he got rid of an Alfa romeo, which never broke, in favour of japanese reliability

 

Ginge, what I keep telling you is that the "extra tax" isn't a deduction of wages. It is a modifcation of your tax code that affects your allowance of tax free earnings, thus meaning you pay a larger ammount of "income tax" over the course of a year. Any deduction of wages is at company level, not government level.

 

thrush i never said it wasnt

i was refering to what the deduction costs you,,,, couldnt care the tech side of things,,,, i dont care what the percentage is blah blah

im talking about when i got a company car deducted ( via tax code) what it cost me and what tmy boss paied for hes pickup

it STILL aint the same as a company car no matter what you think as if it was all the nivaras at work would be 3 series bmw's

 

My mate's interested in one of these too... my builder had one... said it crucified fuel and was keen to get shut.

 

compared to a van,,, well yes,,,, but they weight about 2 tons

you can still get 250 miles to a tank though

i wrote off a scorpio in a ford ranger,,,, i swear i felt fuck all but,,,,,, well the scorpios bumper was ripped clean off,,, rear door adn rear quarte was caved in

i but a dent in the chrome trim and the truck never budged

 

in mine a full tank of go go juice from empty to full costs circa Ł70

if i drive sensible i can get over 500 miles to the tank

i normally only average 400 thou

at work we have one of about every kind of 4x4 and mine is the best for economy

 

I was seriously thinking about selling my van and my BMW to buy a Narava as this will do both jobs , BUT everyone i know in the motor trade says that the Vavara is the best pickup but they are nothing but trubble

Engines blow up for fun ( because they are a totaly std engine that nissan have chipped to 171bhp ) gearboxes just decide they cant be arsed and just give up back axels fall out ( or at best just give up )


All in all , unless it has plenty of warranty left dont buy one , and if it does have warranty left then buy a cheap second car as you will need it when the navara is getting fixed

 

Just replaced the clutch in my mates Navara, done a little over 30k and rarely tows with it, had to do clutch, cylinder and flywheel so was a costly excercise. We were told when ordering the parts that this is a common complaint. Have a lwb Shogun myself and it has never failed me in 4 years.

 

Ive had one for 15 months and done 40k miles and never had any problems. Had a hilux and a L200 before and this is by far the nest IMO. You can pick them up cheap at moment as 2009 is due a facelift model.

 

Ginge, then there must be something different in your work than any other work place I know, as my tax deduction is exactly the same for my Ford Transit Connect as it is for my bosses Pug 207CC, and her's is exactly the same as her bosses Audi S4. It's also the same as my mates Mondeo TDCi and he works for a different company...

So unless you are talking about deductions from BEFORE the new regs were introduced, or you are talking about COMPANY level deductions, then I don't understand it.

You can say you don't care about percentages blah blah, but whether or not you care, that doesn't change the fact of what the government outlined HMRC tax deduction is...

 

Thinking the one i used has had a new box in it, and thats an 07 with 12k on it

 

so yours is the same as a S4 ????

are you sure about that ?

im talking about 18 months ago BUT when the new regs my boss was holding off getting a new car till he knew the rules coming out as being a group manager he could get any ford car he wanted,,, he got another ranger pick up,, all the bosses at my place also have pick ups and they all 07 reg's

my boss is the tightest cunt you will ever find btw,,,, he wont spend a penny unless he can claim it back in april

he got rid of our milkman as he found a bette way using petty cash buying 4 pints at a time, fuck knows what but hes HONESTLY a tight cunt

but he looks after me,,, everytime i make him 52k PROFIT in a month he gives me 500 quid,,, what a nice man

 

My builder must have had a heavy right foot....

 

thank you for the replies, will try get a test drive over xmas

 

bugger, was really fancying one of these, to replace the S4 ( need a tow vechical! )

the comments on relabilty dont sound to good, but they look the best out of the modern pickups

 

i done about 30k in mine the only thing to go wrong was the windscreen wipers


new set of blades job done

 

the clutch is to small in them,if your towing then when reverseing the clutch burns out in no time at all,under 10k in some cases,

steer well clear was what i was addvised by two owners who still had them but wish they never.

 

Lots of conflicting info on Benefit In Kind tax here for cars and commercials.

Last year there was no BiK on vans but that was only a transitional arrangement to replace the old flat scale charge for anyone with access to a works commercial vehicle and the current situation where you pay BiK on one if you have private use (and home to work is counted as business use on a commercial).

Right now, anyone with private use of a commercial vehicle should be paying tax on an additional Ł3000 per annum.
If you get fuel for private use in a commercial vehicle you pay tax on another Ł500 per annum.

For cars, the scale charge is based on the CO2 emissions of the car which determines the % of tax payable on the list price of the car. That makes it EXTREMELY unlikely that anyone is paying the same tax on a Connect, a 206, an S4 and a Mondeo.

For fuel for private use in a company car, the % tax is determined from the CO2 emissions as above, then that % is charged on the scale charge of Ł14,400.

So a car costing Ł18,000 and with CO2 emissions equating to 20% means you pay tax on an additional Ł3600 for the car, and another Ł2880 for the fuel.

A pickup would see you pay tax on Ł3000 and only Ł500 for the fuel, so a 40% tax payer is Ł1192 better off - the tax on the Ł2980 saving.

 

any idea if theres an uprated clutch available?

 

just been to pick some brake pads up for a navara from nissan and the parts bloke said they are the worst car nissan has ever made
he said he has never sold so many half shafts,gem modules and door locks on any other model.
bryan

 

crank,s are going fooked and diff,s 2 my. mate works 4 fred coupe,s andy so i would and i like them better toyota hilyx ? carnt spell it

 

Hilux, Graham!!

He bought one about 2 weeks ago and stoved it in the back of a truck earlier this week!!

 

so is it coming 2 my place then

 

I had the older style Navara for 2 years, it managed 120,000 miles with me driving it, mostly on road but quite a few excursions off road, a full tank of diesel lasted max of 350 miles but was one of the most reliable vehicles I have driven! Would go sideways at the sniff of a bend if I had nothing in the back!

 

This was a problem for the older ones as well, if it was in fourwheel drive! Reversing was fine if it was not in fourwheel drive.!

 

does that not make it shit then?my mates is an 06 plate,i have to reverse all the time with trailers in 4x4 mode in my trooper and it never burns the clutch out!!dont think i would like going to recover a rally car 20 miles into a forest with a trailer if the clutch could not handle it,sounds like nevara are cars to avoid.