9 sec qtr cossy?
12-10-2004, 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by ADUSR32
as much as i love kevs motor 
..no genuine cosworth in this country will ever get into the nine's...no fookin chance 
..no genuine cosworth in this country will ever get into the nine's...no fookin chance 
12-10-2004, 07:29 AM
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Kev my cars too square for you to go over the top - you would probably run under it LOL 
...... infact you would probably just get jammed in the exhaust lol ....... I heard how much you all loved rays exhaust when he turned up at KH 
...... infact you would probably just get jammed in the exhaust lol ....... I heard how much you all loved rays exhaust when he turned up at KH
12-10-2004, 07:42 AM
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Deffo think 9s are achievable 
Both martin and kev are in the tens with all round Track/drag cars i think if they got serious about dragging and set the cars up just for this then theyd be doing 9s 
Both martin and kev are in the tens with all round Track/drag cars i think if they got serious about dragging and set the cars up just for this then theyd be doing 9s
12-10-2004, 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Kevin Sharp
jon i am leaving as much out of mine as i can ..no heater wiring loom out of a 1.3 base model stripped to the minimum...no abs perspex windows etc etc i,m hoping to get it to around 1200kg 
sounds like mine
12-10-2004, 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Jon(m600)
Deffo think 9s are achievable Both martin and kev are in the tens with all round Track/drag cars i think if they got serious about dragging and set the cars up just for this then theyd be doing 9s
Both martin and kev are in the tens with all round Track/drag cars i think if they got serious about dragging and set the cars up just for this then theyd be doing 9s
12-10-2004, 08:07 AM
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Aint there some dude in Spain/Portugal running low 10's (10.01secs) or high 9's? 9.8/9 ??
Remember watching a video of it i think....
Correct me if im wrong!
Remember watching a video of it i think....
Correct me if im wrong!
12-10-2004, 12:24 PM
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its not so much the suspension needs to be changed its the clutch and then i can't see 8's being out of sight with the power cossies can make now
12-10-2004, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Danny B
its not so much the suspension needs to be changed its the clutch and then i can't see 8's being out of sight with the power cossies can make now
12-10-2004, 12:29 PM
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no its more a case of beeing to strong at a certain point, with an adjustable centerfugal clutch system it would be posibble to launch on full boost at peak torque but slip the initial hit from engine to trans and then onto tyres this meaning no wheelspin OR bogging with the correct weight on the clutch, as the RPM raises so does the pressure on the clutch plates 
12-10-2004, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Danny B
no its more a case of beeing to strong at a certain point, with an adjustable centerfugal clutch system it would be posibble to launch on full boost at peak torque but slip the initial hit from engine to trans and then onto tyres this meaning no wheelspin OR bogging with the correct weight on the clutch, as the RPM raises so does the pressure on the clutch plates
it amazes me its one thing to build a car from scratch its a whole nother art getting the right bits and the perfect setup 
12-10-2004, 12:35 PM
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it amazes me its one thing to build a car from scratch its a whole nother art getting the right bits and the perfect setup
this is why there's companies that specialize in certain motorsport, we do cars for all kind of competition but drag racing is our number one which is how we've built record breaking cars, it also why it makes sense for people to come to specialist people to get the best from there cars.
12-10-2004, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by dumped
but then you aint a real motorsport person oh god my sides LOL
oh god my sides LOL Danny top info but if u set a car up for dragging how far off perfect would it be for tracking 
I guess its finding a happy medium must be a night mare i wouldnt even know where to start
12-10-2004, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Danny B
no its more a case of beeing to strong at a certain point, with an adjustable centerfugal clutch system it would be posibble to launch on full boost at peak torque but slip the initial hit from engine to trans and then onto tyres this meaning no wheelspin OR bogging with the correct weight on the clutch, as the RPM raises so does the pressure on the clutch plates
12-10-2004, 04:57 PM
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I've been a top fuel clutch man and it's fooking hot not cool By looking at a top fuel clutch you can see the basics but then you have to remember that there's an air opperated 'Cannon' that pushes on the clutch plates at selected times during the run to set the desierd pressure on the clutch plates(all 5) then you also have your assistants from the rotation speed that loads the weight onto the plates aswell.
There are clutches available that with a little machining work could be used with a cosworth set up no problem.
Kev H its very hard to comprimise on set ups but my car was great fun on the back roads even with a live axle in, I've learnt alot this year on getting the best from a 4x4 set up and I feel that you wouldn't need to go to far from a track set up although peopl need to forget running these track slicks for drag racing as they dont work, 4x Nitto's for you 4wd guys
By looking at a top fuel clutch you can see the basics but then you have to remember that there's an air opperated 'Cannon' that pushes on the clutch plates at selected times during the run to set the desierd pressure on the clutch plates(all 5) then you also have your assistants from the rotation speed that loads the weight onto the plates aswell.There are clutches available that with a little machining work could be used with a cosworth set up no problem.
Kev H its very hard to comprimise on set ups but my car was great fun on the back roads even with a live axle in, I've learnt alot this year on getting the best from a 4x4 set up and I feel that you wouldn't need to go to far from a track set up although peopl need to forget running these track slicks for drag racing as they dont work, 4x Nitto's for you 4wd guys
12-10-2004, 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Porkie
Originally Posted by ADUSR32
as much as i love kevs motor ..no genuine cosworth in this country will ever get into the nine's...no fookin chance
..no genuine cosworth in this country will ever get into the nine's...no fookin chance And as far as us not being bothered about weight. You wanna see what I have chopped off my car. I basically lay under it with an angle grinder and just chopped stuff off.
I have no front end panels, everything will be kevlar. I have taken 20kg out of each door alone, but still retained the electric windows (can't be winding shit up and down at my age)
Chopped the roof off and put on a non sunroof panel, that saves another 20kg
New rear beam with Broms super cool tubular arms and they are a stack lighter than standard.
The problem I see is it's too easy to loose weight from the back and you end up with a car that is out of balance. My car is being built for the track, but I think it should be a fair qtr mile contender!!
Just need the haggis muncher to teach me how to launch!!
Yeah Danny, whats the deal with clutches??
12-10-2004, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Sean Bicknell
I basically lay under it with an angle grinder and just chopped stuff off.
I have taken 20kg out of each door alone, but still retained the electric windows (can't be winding shit up and down at my age)
Chopped the roof off and put on a non sunroof panel, that saves another 20kg
??
I have taken 20kg out of each door alone, but still retained the electric windows (can't be winding shit up and down at my age)
Chopped the roof off and put on a non sunroof panel, that saves another 20kg
??
APMSL at these comments
but seriously how do u take 20kg out of each door
drilling holes ?? and what did you cut off from underneath would that not loose strength ?? but then i guess u get strenght back from seam welding and rollcage etc
12-10-2004, 07:55 PM
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You wanna try lifting an Esc Cos door. They weigh an absolute tonne!!! I have basically chopped out all of the inside, including the side impact protection bar, just leaving a cross over where the window motor mounts onto. Plus I have removed the rest of the wireing from inside the door, so no central locking or electric mirroe wireing. Stuff like that.
Underneath you would be suprised what is there that you don't need, brackets and captive nuts for all sorts, I have taken all of those off, the original bump stop towers have gone, petrol tank mounts etc etc etc.
My cage is simply there to stiffen the shell I didn't go for any more bars than were necessary for that. Yes as a biproduct I get safety, but not to the level of say Porkie or Martin's cages. My shell isn't seem welded either apart from in critical areas again due to weight.
My problems are heavy diffs, a heavy gearbox, heavy brakes and stuff like that.
I have also kept the heater as we live in England and it's fooookin cold, incase anyone hadn't noticed!!
Sean..
Underneath you would be suprised what is there that you don't need, brackets and captive nuts for all sorts, I have taken all of those off, the original bump stop towers have gone, petrol tank mounts etc etc etc.
My cage is simply there to stiffen the shell I didn't go for any more bars than were necessary for that. Yes as a biproduct I get safety, but not to the level of say Porkie or Martin's cages. My shell isn't seem welded either apart from in critical areas again due to weight.
My problems are heavy diffs, a heavy gearbox, heavy brakes and stuff like that.
I have also kept the heater as we live in England and it's fooookin cold, incase anyone hadn't noticed!!
Sean..
12-10-2004, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevin Sharp
Originally Posted by Sean Bicknell
I have also kept the heater as we live in England and it's fooookin cold, incase anyone hadn't noticed!!
Sean..
cooont
Not all of us have as much HOT AIR as you, so how else am I supposed to de-mist the screen if I don't keep my heater!!
12-10-2004, 08:13 PM
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Thanks for the info Sean Never realised big brakes were heavy Are you keeping origional bumpers spoilers or you going the wrc route or is that top secret
PMSL @ Kev ps Kev did i read correctly are u using perspex windows or did i imagine that ??
Never realised big brakes were heavy Are you keeping origional bumpers spoilers or you going the wrc route or is that top secret PMSL @ Kev
ps Kev did i read correctly are u using perspex windows or did i imagine that ??
12-10-2004, 08:17 PM
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Never realised big brakes were heavy
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Originally Posted by Sean Bicknell
I have basically chopped out all of the inside, including the side impact protection bar
brackets and captive nuts for all sorts, I have taken all of those off, the original bump stop towers have gone, petrol tank mounts etc etc etc.
brackets and captive nuts for all sorts, I have taken all of those off, the original bump stop towers have gone, petrol tank mounts etc etc etc.
12-10-2004, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Sean Bicknell
At the moment I am not going WRC, no secrets here matey!!
Peeps have some serious projects going on
keep exploring those bounderies
12-10-2004, 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevin Sharp
kev...yep i will be fitting perspex to the new car
Gareth I own a honda it abit nippy but doesnt go fast enough to warrent anything big
I look at my mates esc cos which is stage 2 greens whatever and thats quick to me but it amazes me how much you have to change to become a project like Seans Kev's Martin Monsters I cant even imagine just how quick they must be
12-10-2004, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Sean Bicknell
Mine did about 35mph the other day on the back of a trailer going from our old workshop to the new one!!
Even your honda must be able to keep up with that!!
Even your honda must be able to keep up with that!!
u wait till AEM deliver my new Induction kit Im coming for all u big power monkeys 
12-10-2004, 09:05 PM
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Kev, God knows, have posted to ask Stu the same question.
Kev H, bring it on filter boy!!!!
Phil, Yep I have kept the heated front screen, but that ain't gonna keep my tootsies very warm!!
Kev H, bring it on filter boy!!!!
Phil, Yep I have kept the heated front screen, but that ain't gonna keep my tootsies very warm!!