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Old 15-12-2007, 08:09 PM
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I am refering to a post on here where some one said a focus st with a chip would stay with a stage 3 cosworth is this true.
Old 15-12-2007, 08:11 PM
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yes if the cosworth is parked......
Old 15-12-2007, 08:18 PM
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Stg3 4x4 or 2wd Cos makes a big difference

2.5 in the ST so would think pretty quick when tuned
Old 15-12-2007, 08:25 PM
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wont feel the same though, having driven a few st's at work,, they ok but aint no where NEAR the same feel as my old cossie was

if it was i would have bought the ST3 i was offered for 15k deal when the sales manager had to up the staff sales
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Well my stage 3 saph on a t3 greens msd chip destroys my mates standard st3 so would say that in my opinion no it wouldnt be quicker oh and for the record its 4x4 regards Alex
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Originally Posted by Altratz
Well my stage 3 saph on a t3 greens msd chip destroys my mates standard st3 so would say that in my opinion no it wouldnt be quicker oh and for the record its 4x4 regards Alex
and ive always found t3's to feel fucking slow aswell if im honest
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Originally Posted by Altratz
Well my stage 3 saph on a t3 greens msd chip destroys my mates standard st3 so would say that in my opinion no it wouldnt be quicker oh and for the record its 4x4 regards Alex

Really? if its my moms st3 your refering to then i dont remember your saff destroying it exactly quicker yes but destroyed i think not and the st3 is totally standard.

However when i drove kennys st3 the other day (re-mapped) i recon a 4x4 stg3 saff would have a pretty hard time tbh.

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define, exactly a stage 3 saff please??
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IMO T34 holding 27psi of boost,,,, anything less is just boring
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Originally Posted by trevCOSS
define, exactly a stage 3 saff please??
Imo,

Greens, 3 bar, t3/t34 24/25 psi, 330 bhp.

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Originally Posted by Ginge !
IMO T34 holding 27psi of boost,,,, anything less is just boring
thats my point, a big difference between t3 on greens at 21psi to what you have stated but both are described as stage 3
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who cares ???? i`d rather have a cossie than the ST any day

they really dont do it for me
Old 15-12-2007, 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by the saint
who cares ???? i`d rather have a cossie than the ST any day

they really dont do it for me
ST'S are good tho, you can drive em all day everyday without paranoia
Old 16-12-2007, 08:20 AM
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There is a LOT of difference between a 4wd and 2wd cossie though at the same power especially higher up, and especially if the 2wd has a T34, with .48!!
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Old 16-12-2007, 09:10 AM
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have you seen the actual times for these supposed tuned focus STs??



a (proper) stage 3 cossie will be quicker mate IMO until you get to corners..

ie. t3 holding more than 22 psi. and actually set up. not just an off the shelf chip.
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Originally Posted by 4x4 ste
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Well my stage 3 saph on a t3 greens msd chip destroys my mates standard st3 so would say that in my opinion no it wouldnt be quicker oh and for the record its 4x4 regards Alex

Really? if its my moms st3 your refering to then i dont remember your saff destroying it exactly quicker yes but destroyed i think not and the st3 is totally standard.

However when i drove kennys st3 the other day (re-mapped) i recon a 4x4 stg3 saff would have a pretty hard time tbh.

Ste in all honesty your moms st was nowhere!!! its a great car but not cossie fast in standard trim i dont know how a chipped one goes as ive never been in one
Old 16-12-2007, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Altratz
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Well my stage 3 saph on a t3 greens msd chip destroys my mates standard st3 so would say that in my opinion no it wouldnt be quicker oh and for the record its 4x4 regards Alex

Really? if its my moms st3 your refering to then i dont remember your saff destroying it exactly quicker yes but destroyed i think not and the st3 is totally standard.

However when i drove kennys st3 the other day (re-mapped) i recon a 4x4 stg3 saff would have a pretty hard time tbh.

Ste in all honesty your moms st was nowhere!!! its a great car but not cossie fast in standard trim i dont know how a chipped one goes as ive never been in one
I aint gonna argue with ya I just had to wait for you to get out the way so i could get back in after overtaking a car.
I have driven Kennys and its quick

At that time your car was around 330 bhp ish so take into account all the 4x4 transmission drag ect against a focus with 260 / 270 bhp with only fwd and 6 speed g/box and better aerodynamics ect ect it has to be a close thing.

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Well my Saff would/has DEMOLISHED one



Nice car though imo............ suprising how quick they are
Old 16-12-2007, 12:13 PM
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mine should be ok against one as long as we can have regular stops so i can top up my coolant
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Originally Posted by mechanic28
mine should be ok against one as long as we can have regular stops so i can top up my coolant


More problems then??
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headgasket weeping down the side of the block gearbox has started to crunch in 4th when cold(has got fresh oil in it!)just decided what to do cant make up my mind as steve(cossie4i) will be able to tell ya do i fix her or get rid and get a 3 door or rs500
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Originally Posted by mechanic28
headgasket weeping down the side of the block gearbox has started to crunch in 4th when cold(has got fresh oil in it!)just decided what to do cant make up my mind as steve(cossie4i) will be able to tell ya do i fix her or get rid and get a 3 door or rs500
Doug has been doing my head in more than you Pete

Also a standard ST was no quicker upto 120 than my old 24v 4i

Steve.
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So its a thread about a remapped one, and all everyone is talking about so far is standard ones?

Surely if comparing standard to standard you should also then be talking about a standard cossie too????
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Wouldnt be far away thats for sure.
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i raced stevie hinks at crail on the 1/4

he was in his 300bhp st

and i was driving my mates stage 3 2wd saph,he beat me just,and i was an absolute tart off the line,wheelspinning on the spot for ages,first time i had drove it and changed at 6k

so defo no the cossie would fuck the st
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