Car Identity Question DISCUSS
11-12-2007, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Iain Mac
When people talk about "FORD", it's important to remember that nearly every "FORD" dealership is an independently owned and operated business who just happen to sell and maintain the products of the FORD MOTOR COMPANY.
Back when I worked for FoMoCo there was only one manufacturer owned dealership in the UK and I think it was sold on a while ago.
Back when I worked for FoMoCo there was only one manufacturer owned dealership in the UK and I think it was sold on a while ago.
nope, its owned by its SISTER COMPANY ford retail uk
i know as i worked there, the parts department are also about to be owed different to the showrooms,,, so ford parts will be different, ford retail, FoMoCo,, all different business,, on and the design part is also different too
11-12-2007, 08:44 PM
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Re: Car Identity Question DISCUSS
Originally Posted by Grant Gti
Right i've got a mate who has a 3 door escort that he's turbo'd and he says he's putting the car on an rs turbo i'd and that ford are doing it by stamping the chassis number off the rs turbo into the passenger side floor and removing the drivers side numbers,
Now he has said its also going through dvla legitimately (sp) he said he's going to tell them he's got a shell with no ID and they will let it go on the rs ID,
Now i've just said that this is surely ringing and they won't let him do it but he said i'm a dumb ass fool and its not ringing,
Also the car has no sunroof RST'S do surely this is very wrong??
SO AM I A DUMB ASS FOOL AND IS IT RINGING???
ALSO THE OWNER IS A MEMBER ON HERE AND HAS JUST GIVEN ME A LOAD OF ABUSE FOR TELLING HIM ITS WELL DODGY LMAO,
Lets see if he makes an appearance shall we.............
Now he has said its also going through dvla legitimately (sp) he said he's going to tell them he's got a shell with no ID and they will let it go on the rs ID,
Now i've just said that this is surely ringing and they won't let him do it but he said i'm a dumb ass fool and its not ringing,
Also the car has no sunroof RST'S do surely this is very wrong??
SO AM I A DUMB ASS FOOL AND IS IT RINGING???
ALSO THE OWNER IS A MEMBER ON HERE AND HAS JUST GIVEN ME A LOAD OF ABUSE FOR TELLING HIM ITS WELL DODGY LMAO,
Lets see if he makes an appearance shall we.............
the only way he can keep any id re-shelling a car is that the donner shell has to be brand new (not second hand shell )
if you reshell a car with a second hand shell it will automatically go on a Q plate no matter what it says on the log book
marco
11-12-2007, 10:30 PM
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Hi Iain
My mate has just had his bmw m3 2006 re-shelled with a brand new shell he has got the same registration that came with the car thats through the insurance company
that will get the same id number and reg
another mate of mine a good few years ago had a sierra XR4x4 on a E plate
he bought a brand new escort cosworth trimed shell and put everything off the sierra on to the escort DVLA still let him put the E plate on the escort
and it says ford escort 3 door xr4x4 on the log book
marco
My mate has just had his bmw m3 2006 re-shelled with a brand new shell he has got the same registration that came with the car thats through the insurance company
that will get the same id number and reg
another mate of mine a good few years ago had a sierra XR4x4 on a E plate
he bought a brand new escort cosworth trimed shell and put everything off the sierra on to the escort DVLA still let him put the E plate on the escort
and it says ford escort 3 door xr4x4 on the log book
marco
12-12-2007, 12:08 AM
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Thanks for the replies, Thing is if he thinks this is legal then how many more people do??? He's not a retard by a long way either WELL maybe he is in the car identity side of things
13-12-2007, 03:36 PM
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Re: Car Identity Question DISCUSS
Originally Posted by marco polo
Originally Posted by Grant Gti
Right i've got a mate who has a 3 door escort that he's turbo'd and he says he's putting the car on an rs turbo i'd and that ford are doing it by stamping the chassis number off the rs turbo into the passenger side floor and removing the drivers side numbers,
Now he has said its also going through dvla legitimately (sp) he said he's going to tell them he's got a shell with no ID and they will let it go on the rs ID,
Now i've just said that this is surely ringing and they won't let him do it but he said i'm a dumb ass fool and its not ringing,
Also the car has no sunroof RST'S do surely this is very wrong??
SO AM I A DUMB ASS FOOL AND IS IT RINGING???
ALSO THE OWNER IS A MEMBER ON HERE AND HAS JUST GIVEN ME A LOAD OF ABUSE FOR TELLING HIM ITS WELL DODGY LMAO,
Lets see if he makes an appearance shall we.............
Now he has said its also going through dvla legitimately (sp) he said he's going to tell them he's got a shell with no ID and they will let it go on the rs ID,
Now i've just said that this is surely ringing and they won't let him do it but he said i'm a dumb ass fool and its not ringing,
Also the car has no sunroof RST'S do surely this is very wrong??
SO AM I A DUMB ASS FOOL AND IS IT RINGING???
ALSO THE OWNER IS A MEMBER ON HERE AND HAS JUST GIVEN ME A LOAD OF ABUSE FOR TELLING HIM ITS WELL DODGY LMAO,
Lets see if he makes an appearance shall we.............
the only way he can keep any id re-shelling a car is that the donner shell has to be brand new (not second hand shell )
if you reshell a car with a second hand shell it will automatically go on a Q plate no matter what it says on the log book
marco
Its like buying a 3 door sierra gl and building it up and putting it on rs 500 id people do it but its still ringing in the eyes of the law isn't it???
13-12-2007, 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by nickscunny
Just a question, how come peeps sell logbooks and i.d.'s on ebay and in classified then?
13-12-2007, 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by nickscunny
Just a question, how come peeps sell logbooks and i.d.'s on ebay and in classified then?
same reason people pay benifit cheats cash in hand,,,, only person who gets nicked is the one whos using/claiming,,,,,
though drug dealers get nicked and users get let off
14-12-2007, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by edd
Originally Posted by nickscunny
Just a question, how come peeps sell logbooks and i.d.'s on ebay and in classified then?
Traders don't help things either when they sell shells without id they know whats going to happen to them, AND NO i'm not digging at traders on here but this does happen,
Theresa company in fast ford mag that sells scrap shells with id mmm wonder why
18-12-2007, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Grant Gti
Which imo is THE main problem, Why buy something if its illegal to use it???
Not that I have any id's from cars, but some people may be interested in them for that reason only.
18-12-2007, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by rs shawn
Originally Posted by Grant Gti
Which imo is THE main problem, Why buy something if its illegal to use it???
Not that I have any id's from cars, but some people may be interested in them for that reason only.
18-12-2007, 11:00 AM
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Depends what car it's from. May be something old and rare (as the RS's are getting) and want a piece before they dissappear.. don't forget - there's some proper proper geeks out there that will collect ANYTHING. Car identity is quite normal compared to some collectable things.
23-12-2007, 10:28 PM
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i bough a series one that had half the floor number welded over possible reshell????? as the hpi gave it as not reported stolen but wrote of in 1992 the hpi and logbook matched the numbers on the vin plate under the bonnet thats not original as it is stamped from the top it also matched the engine number at the time and markings on glass it was still on the proper plate no a q and it had the chassis number stamped on both strut tops with another 4 didgit number underneath which the lad that rebuit my front end says is the badge number of the officer that checked the car plus there should be anoter mark somewhere hidden on the car under the head lining for arguments sake that says the car has been cheaked
23-12-2007, 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Ginge !
Originally Posted by nickscunny
Just a question, how come peeps sell logbooks and i.d.'s on ebay and in classified then?
same reason people pay benifit cheats cash in hand,,,, only person who gets nicked is the one whos using/claiming,,,,,
though drug dealers get nicked and users get let off
