what would a 650 hp 2wd saph be worth ?
30-11-2007, 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by scoooby slayer
parts i would need extra so far bd16 inlet £150, inlet £400, turbo maybe £1000 if suitable not sure yet, head around £1100, mapping £500, headgasket £400, fuel pump £500. so £4050 but got the t4, ported inlet, mapped chip and fuel pump to sell so gotta be minimum £1000 back there. so at 3k so far thats if i do the work myself dunno if id dare if i went ahead with it 
what have i missed.
what have i missed.inlet and head gasket £800
mapping and Pump £1000
Gt35 and ext wastegate £1400
What about exhaust? £1000
will you be putting this all together yourself?
30-11-2007, 10:00 PM
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So haed and Cam £1250
inlet and head gasket £800
mapping and Pump £1000
Gt35 and ext wastegate £1400
What about exhaust? £1000
if i can use this turbo http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Garrett-GT3582...QQcmdZViewItem
it should bolt straight on .82 rear housing with my 500 wastegate housing. as far as i understand it my exhaust will be fine and il be running internal gate still.
Originally Posted by scoooby slayer
parts i would need extra so far bd16 inlet £150, inlet £400, turbo maybe £1000 if suitable not sure yet, head around £1100, mapping £500, headgasket £400, fuel pump £500. so £4050 but got the t4, ported inlet, mapped chip and fuel pump to sell so gotta be minimum £1000 back there. so at 3k so far thats if i do the work myself dunno if id dare if i went ahead with it what have i missed.
what have i missed.inlet and head gasket £800
mapping and Pump £1000
Gt35 and ext wastegate £1400
What about exhaust? £1000
if i can use this turbo http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Garrett-GT3582...QQcmdZViewItem
it should bolt straight on .82 rear housing with my 500 wastegate housing. as far as i understand it my exhaust will be fine and il be running internal gate still.
30-11-2007, 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by rapidcossie
exhuast will be closer to 1500.
Will need mapped on a dyno which wont take 5 mins either...
Will need a better cooler too.
Will need mapped on a dyno which wont take 5 mins either...
Will need a better cooler too.
30-11-2007, 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by glancy2081
also exhaust manifold
30-11-2007, 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by scoooby slayer
Originally Posted by glancy2081
also exhaust manifold
30-11-2007, 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by rapidcossie
Will really struggle to hot 650 with a 3" exhaust and internal wastegate mate.
30-11-2007, 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by rapidcossie
Originally Posted by scoooby slayer
Originally Posted by glancy2081
also exhaust manifold
not trying to make it bigger just get it back to brand new.
30-11-2007, 10:10 PM
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It would be alot easier to buy an engine already tuned by a professional, sell your old engine and it would probably cost you less.
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If I was you, i would spend it on a proper kick ass chassis like wrc rear end 8 pots etc, and get a real buzz by going round corners, FAST!
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If I was you, i would spend it on a proper kick ass chassis like wrc rear end 8 pots etc, and get a real buzz by going round corners, FAST!
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30-11-2007, 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by rapidcossie
I have seen 3 or 4 2wd exhaust manifols off the car and none hand any kind of carbon build ups that would effect flow.
i wouldnt do it if it was clean
30-11-2007, 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by jhw
It would be alot easier to buy an engine already tuned by a professional, sell your old engine and it would probably cost you less.
Buttttt
If I was you, i would spend it on a proper kick ass chassis like wrc rear end 8 pots etc, and get a real buzz by going round corners, FAST!
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car is fast enough in the bends for me just want more power captain
an already built engine would cost what 15k i seriously cant see it would be cheaper
30-11-2007, 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by martin-reyland
This sort of power does not come cheap ... 600hp for 5k? Let's see anyone's invoices from std engine to proven 600+HP all in for 5k...
has it been tried and failed martin
30-11-2007, 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by scoooby slayer
Originally Posted by jhw
It would be alot easier to buy an engine already tuned by a professional, sell your old engine and it would probably cost you less.
Buttttt
If I was you, i would spend it on a proper kick ass chassis like wrc rear end 8 pots etc, and get a real buzz by going round corners, FAST!
James
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If I was you, i would spend it on a proper kick ass chassis like wrc rear end 8 pots etc, and get a real buzz by going round corners, FAST!
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car is fast enough in the bends for me just want more power captain
an already built engine would cost what 15k i seriously cant see it would be cheaper
30-11-2007, 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevin Sharp
This is a funny thread 
Try a GENUINE 500bhp lump and you will find it fast enough....but you wont get it for 5k
Try a GENUINE 500bhp lump and you will find it fast enough....but you wont get it for 5k
30-11-2007, 11:24 PM
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Even if you did get 600hp dont think the car would make 12-13k with a home built engine.. Personally I would want to see reciepts from a tuner for all the work.. that way at least you know it has some chance of lasting more than 5 mins.
If you have a genuine 480 BHP how can that not be fast enough now??
If you have a genuine 480 BHP how can that not be fast enough now??
01-12-2007, 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Kevin Sharp
This is a funny thread
Try a GENUINE 500bhp lump and you will find it fast enough....but you wont get it for 5k
Try a GENUINE 500bhp lump and you will find it fast enough....but you wont get it for 5k
bobs your aunties live in lover,still got change for the pub
01-12-2007, 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by lamb chops
Even if you did get 600hp dont think the car would make 12-13k with a home built engine.. Personally I would want to see reciepts from a tuner for all the work.. that way at least you know it has some chance of lasting more than 5 mins.
If you have a genuine 480 BHP how can that not be fast enough now??
If you have a genuine 480 BHP how can that not be fast enough now??
i never thought that 500bhp wasnt enough!
01-12-2007, 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by dovboy
Originally Posted by lamb chops
Even if you did get 600hp dont think the car would make 12-13k with a home built engine.. Personally I would want to see reciepts from a tuner for all the work.. that way at least you know it has some chance of lasting more than 5 mins.
If you have a genuine 480 BHP how can that not be fast enough now??
If you have a genuine 480 BHP how can that not be fast enough now??
i never thought that 500bhp wasnt enough!
01-12-2007, 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by lamb chops
Even if you did get 600hp dont think the car would make 12-13k with a home built engine.. Personally I would want to see reciepts from a tuner for all the work.. that way at least you know it has some chance of lasting more than 5 mins.
If you have a genuine 480 BHP how can that not be fast enough now??
If you have a genuine 480 BHP how can that not be fast enough now??
it is bloody fast but i want more
tbh so far it has been trouble free although engines only done about 2k. i would like to go to brunters next year id prob get an invite if i got more power maybe
01-12-2007, 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Kevin Sharp
This is a funny thread
Try a GENUINE 500bhp lump and you will find it fast enough....but you wont get it for 5k
Try a GENUINE 500bhp lump and you will find it fast enough....but you wont get it for 5k
ive had an rs500 spec 3 door aswell which was near on 500 hp with no boost caping anthat had loads of mid range pull
not to bothered though loads of top end power and il be happy
01-12-2007, 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by JonnyBravo
Nitrous
Atleast for just over a grand you could find out how much hp your engine can handle
Atleast for just over a grand you could find out how much hp your engine can handle
01-12-2007, 01:10 AM
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Its as safe as fitting a big turbo, except its a fuck lot cheaper.
Downsides are obviously that the nitrous doesn't last forever
You can have it activating by tps, microswitch on the throttle or a button in the car (if your brave)
You can activate it whenever you like so if you just wanted it in 4th and 5th then thats when you activate it.
You would also use a controller ( known as maximiser ) which allows you to setup the nitrous much finer, start % over x amount of seconds is a basic feature which alone combats wheelspin.
See if MadRod can post his timed acceleration runs up, off gas and on gas
There is quite a lot to it if your going get really serious with it but the basics are quite easy to grasp.
Downsides are obviously that the nitrous doesn't last forever
You can have it activating by tps, microswitch on the throttle or a button in the car (if your brave)
You can activate it whenever you like so if you just wanted it in 4th and 5th then thats when you activate it.
You would also use a controller ( known as maximiser ) which allows you to setup the nitrous much finer, start % over x amount of seconds is a basic feature which alone combats wheelspin.
See if MadRod can post his timed acceleration runs up, off gas and on gas
There is quite a lot to it if your going get really serious with it but the basics are quite easy to grasp.
01-12-2007, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by martin-reyland
This sort of power does not come cheap ... 600hp for 5k? Let's see anyone's invoices from std engine to proven 600+HP all in for 5k...
01-12-2007, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by MadRod
Originally Posted by martin-reyland
This sort of power does not come cheap ... 600hp for 5k? Let's see anyone's invoices from std engine to proven 600+HP all in for 5k...
Rods its 4 now
01-12-2007, 11:50 AM
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hes not saying 600bhp for 5k he wants as near to 600bhp as poss from the spec hes already got wich is already 480hp so why do people think its so hard and expensive to get an extra 100hp why start again when his engine has only done 2k fuck me as long as he puts the right bits on it and gets it properly mapped whats wrong with that?id personaly do it a better route with better components but if you need to achieve something on a budget then so be it its up to the individual
01-12-2007, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by b19 dfp
hes not saying 600bhp for 5k he wants as near to 600bhp as poss from the spec hes already got wich is already 480hp so why do people think its so hard and expensive to get an extra 100hp why start again when his engine has only done 2k fuck me as long as he puts the right bits on it and gets it properly mapped whats wrong with that?id personaly do it a better route with better components but if you need to achieve something on a budget then so be it its up to the individual
i understand its a risk im just trying to figure out what i can get away with and what i cant has anyone ever run 600 hp on standard rods, crank and 200 block ?
all input is much appreciated
01-12-2007, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by R5FORD
iv spent around 40k on my saph and its only stage 3 but thats with shipping to oz etc
but thats with shipping to oz etc