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Old 22-11-2007, 11:20 AM
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must have been the shitest service iv ever had in my life.. 4 months back i ordered some ultralite callpiers for the rear of the 500..

- ok sir that will take upto 28days.. 2 months later im still wating for them.. and they turn up a week and a half ago..

on the 14th i ordered some brake pads for the 500..as they told me they came with the callipers so i didnt order any 4 months ago.. the lady says yes sir we have them in stock and today will be sent out..

now its the 22nd. i ring them and ask for a tracking number as i need the pads to get the car back on the road.. 'o sir they havent been sent out,,theres nothing in the dispatch sectoin, il make sure there sent out today' this pissed me right off the 500 is off the road due to these fckuin pads not been here yet and the saph is fckued..so theres one car between 3 of us..pisses me right ff stupid shit services like this wouldnt ever recommend them to anyone..stick to ap and tarox

hispec= shit
Old 22-11-2007, 11:28 AM
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thanks mate, i was gonna go hispec but ive herd so much crap about them id rather just buy bigger wheels and go for aps
Old 22-11-2007, 11:28 AM
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everyone i know who has used them say

product is good
service is bad

if only they sorted out the service they will be on to a winner

J
Old 22-11-2007, 11:29 AM
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couldnt agree more,their customer service is non existent,i once had some of their 6 pots off them and they didnt even fit properly and their disc/bell set up fouled on the t/r/ends load of crap
Old 22-11-2007, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by McGoo 69
thanks mate, i was gonna go hispec but ive herd so much crap about them id rather just buy bigger wheels and go for aps
Why do you need bigger wheels to go for AP's?
Old 22-11-2007, 11:30 AM
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product is good.



yeah right.
Old 22-11-2007, 11:34 AM
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there products aint bad but id prefer if tarox did a rear calliper..there in italy and there servie is wayy better

cus the hispec callipers are smaller than the aps
Old 22-11-2007, 11:38 AM
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il go as far as to say as sounds about right!!!

I called them on Tuesday to enquire before palcing an order for a hydralic pedal box the guy greets me with a ....

Oh bit busy at moment i shall call you back - so leave my number and name..


............




..............................





........................Yep , still waiting

So i have taken my money else where and highly recommend OBP for a bias pedal box
Old 22-11-2007, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by m4dyeti
il go as far as to say as sounds about right!!!

I called them on Tuesday to enquire before palcing an order for a hydralic pedal box the guy greets me with a ....

Oh bit busy at moment i shall call you back - so leave my number and name..


............




..............................





........................Yep , still waiting

So i have taken my money else where and highly recommend OBP for a bias pedal box
fair play mate..give your money to guys that actully give customer service ..

the funny thing is if they had good customer service they wuld sel more which would make more money..
Old 22-11-2007, 11:53 AM
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Its frustrating - you call wanting to find out something and order then get fobbed off...

I work for a distributor too and understand at times it gets busy, but you dont make false promises, you just say how it is, like il call you in an hour, or in your case.......


Sorry we cant get he calipers out until ????? and sorry for any inconvience have a discount on the pads for your troubles
Old 22-11-2007, 11:56 AM
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stop being tempted by cheap crap buy ap,s
Old 22-11-2007, 11:58 AM
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Or Comp Brakes or Brembos...


Here very good things about Comp brakes
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there for the raer kev..the 500 had the hispec on the front when we brought it so why waste money on aps when we already got big brakes
Old 22-11-2007, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by R5FORD
there for the raer kev..the 500 had the hispec on the front when we brought it so why waste money on aps when we already got big brakes
where did you bring it from?

its BOUGHT FFS
Old 22-11-2007, 12:05 PM
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This is why you should go through me, as not only do I give a discount, you get MY customer service and not theirs .
Old 22-11-2007, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by R5FORD
there for the raer kev..the 500 had the hispec on the front when we brought it so why waste money on aps when we already got big brakes
not all "big brakes" work though,but ap's do,proved time and time again.

look nice but dont perform.
Old 22-11-2007, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
This is why you should go through me, as not only do I give a discount, you get MY customer service and not theirs .
but they will be shit who ever supplies them,so what difference does it make?
Old 22-11-2007, 12:16 PM
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Tim,
Sorry, I had no idea Performance Friction (the brake discs they use on the top spec kit's) were shit, I'll stand corrected .

Obviously where the kit's are built to a budget, they are no worse than other kits of similar money (in fact the calliper design is considerably better than the Willwood's for example ) .

Their Mega Monster 6 conversion using Performance Friction 380mm floating discs is unbelievably good (in fact good enough to be used by Porsche owners who want to save their carbon brakes and use this conversion for track days and then replace the OE Porsche set up at re-sale time ).

I fully admit that their customer service is shit, but their products have moved on beyond all recognition over the last few years.
Old 22-11-2007, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Cosworth Rallyesport
Originally Posted by R5FORD
there for the raer kev..the 500 had the hispec on the front when we brought it so why waste money on aps when we already got big brakes
not all "big brakes" work though,but ap's do,proved time and time again.

look nice but dont perform.
How many race/ rally cars do you see with hi(lo)spec brakes on?
How many Race/ rally cars do you see with AP's / Brembo's on?

Simple enough to understand .... AP's are the bollocks, is it worth saving Ł100 to get shite service and an inferior (far far IMHO) product, then even worse service when you try and sort it out?

Only thing Hi-spec are good for is the bufty boys who want gay chrome callipers and don't actually care if thier brakes work or not
Old 22-11-2007, 12:22 PM
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i think Tarox are better than Aps

yh but hispec brakes do look nice shame there service isnt good tho dam you mike why didnt i think about trying you first
Old 22-11-2007, 12:24 PM
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just be happy that your not getting them from wales
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Originally Posted by RWD_cossie_wil
Originally Posted by Cosworth Rallyesport
Originally Posted by R5FORD
there for the raer kev..the 500 had the hispec on the front when we brought it so why waste money on aps when we already got big brakes
not all "big brakes" work though,but ap's do,proved time and time again.

look nice but dont perform.
How many race/ rally cars do you see with hi(lo)spec brakes on?
How many Race/ rally cars do you see with AP's / Brembo's on?

Simple enough to understand .... AP's are the bollocks, is it worth saving Ł100 to get shite service and an inferior (far far IMHO) product, then even worse service when you try and sort it out?

Only thing Hi-spec are good for is the bufty boys who want gay chrome callipers and don't actually care if thier brakes work or not
Wil,
I would lay money that you couldn't tell the difference between their Mega-Monster callipers and your APs (providing you were using same pads / fluid). Unfortunately where Hi-spec gave themsleves a TERRIBLE reputation, was supplying brakes with the EBC Greenstuff pads, which caused hell and all problems . If you fitted EBC Greenstuff to your APs, you would suddenly find the APs were shit .

As to Tarox being better than AP, someone is deluded .

Don't get me wrong, I would always go for APs if the price was like for like, but at the moment there is a several hundred pound difference between the two and not the Ł100 quoted.
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i've used hispec many mnay times in the past and, as long as you can get to speak to geoff, there doesn't seem to be a problem

it's everyone else who seems to be slower than you would believe possible

on the flip side, if you go there and stand at the counter and tell them what you want and give them a time scale and say "i'll be back for these then" they are ready by the time you get there

ok, a bit of a stretch to come half way across the planet, but you know what i mean
Old 22-11-2007, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by EsCosRacer
Originally Posted by Cosworth Rallyesport
Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
This is why you should go through me, as not only do I give a discount, you get MY customer service and not theirs .
but they will be shit who ever supplies them,so what difference does it make?
this coming from a guy who deals with ATM ??

u ever had a set or just jump the bandwagon ? not everyone has the need for watercooled wrc AP`s....when do u finally realize this here aint a WRC forum, its mainly street / trackday cars.....


yes,tried a set of them on an escort cosworth rally car a few times,very vague brake pedal,after a few high gear to ist gear stops they fade to nothing,disc;s start to warp very quickly as soon as they have had a few heat cycles through them,absolutley nothing like ap's, what ever your doing be it track fast road or rally then if your pushing the limits of the car you need reliability,this is not acheived by budget brakes out there.

wil is 100% right,most rally cars use ap or brembo for a reason.

and i cannot ever imagine porche endorsing hi-spec wilwoods or any other budget fast road brakes.

and whats me selling anything to ATM got to do with the price of bacon then?they buy stuff off me as its rare and priced very reasonbly,just like you have been doing.so where is the problem with that then?
Old 22-11-2007, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by EsCosRacer
Originally Posted by RWD_cossie_wil
Originally Posted by Cosworth Rallyesport
Originally Posted by R5FORD
there for the raer kev..the 500 had the hispec on the front when we brought it so why waste money on aps when we already got big brakes
not all "big brakes" work though,but ap's do,proved time and time again.

look nice but dont perform.
How many race/ rally cars do you see with hi(lo)spec brakes on?
How many Race/ rally cars do you see with AP's / Brembo's on?

Simple enough to understand .... AP's are the bollocks, is it worth saving Ł100 to get shite service and an inferior (far far IMHO) product, then even worse service when you try and sort it out?

Only thing Hi-spec are good for is the bufty boys who want gay chrome callipers and don't actually care if thier brakes work or not
utter bullshit....im sorry.....on the R5 im now able to brake later than a V6 cup clio....so what u on about brakes not working right ??
do you not realize that thats because of the weight difference??
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Tim,
You can't expect their budget kits to work as well as APs . If you move up to the their better kits, which use PF discs etc, then they are still cheaper than AP, but have nigh on equal performance.

Braking is also about pads and fluid, so you have to make sure the kit is specced correctly for each application as well .

You should take a look at their Mega-monster 6 calliper - it really is a VERY well made piece of kit .
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Tim,
You can't expect their budget kits to work as well as APs . If you move up to the their better kits, which use PF discs etc, then they are still cheaper than AP, but have nigh on equal performance.

Braking is also about pads and fluid, so you have to make sure the kit is specced correctly for each application as well .

You should take a look at their Mega-monster 6 calliper - it really is a VERY well made piece of kit .
fair enough,each to there own,
i supose it depends what your doing with them,

personally next time iam flat in 7th around the round table before the mines track hairpin on the isle of man manx rally aproaching at about 150mph to a 1st gear hairpin 11 miles into the stage i think i will put my faith in AP's.

like i said,its how your pushing them that makes a huge difference on requirements.there are not many folk on here tarmac rallying so dont expect many to be able to agree that reliability and consistancy matters on the stages.
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i got a set of Hi spec's on my series two and have had most other manufacturers kits on other car i.e tarox, ap's wilwood etc. I have to say AP are by far the better of them all but the hi spec's i have on my car now do a great job. If i could have had a set of AP's fit behind the standard wheel they would have been my first choice but as they didnt and i wanted to keep it looking standard i went to hi spec

I admit there customer service is dog s*** but there product is very good in my opinion.
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Tim almost fell of his chair when he last looked at the brakes on my rallycar

And I was only about 6 places overall behind him

Pity I crashed... Slid off on his mud

So even the standard Ford stuff must be no good too
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i feel the thread has got abit
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
This is why you should go through me, as not only do I give a discount, you get MY customer service and not theirs .
Yes, I enjoyed going through Mike

Fair play though, Mike has been an excelent bullshit filter when dealing with hispec

And there not just for buftys, I ordered mine in black ...












And had the bells in silver so they can be anodised blue to suit by dampers
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bufty alert
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Year ago a very good friend of mine took a set of Hi-Spec brakes apart to look at them. He was shocked to find they hadnt used shanked bolts but full thread, he was even more shocked when the bolts were not even heat treated!!

I know this was then changed on all new products. My point is why did it take someone to point this out before it was changed? This should never have happened in the first place.

For this simple reason i would never use them.
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Originally Posted by Nash
Year ago a very good friend of mine took a set of Hi-Spec brakes apart to look at them. He was shocked to find they hadnt used shanked bolts but full thread, he was even more shocked when the bolts were not even heat treated!!

I know this was then changed on all new products. My point is why did it take someone to point this out before it was changed? This should never have happened in the first place.

For this simple reason i would never use them.
Your AP 330's were on the car when you bought it wern't they?

What have you used in the past, always been an AP boy?
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A couple of things on this subject (well, the original one anyway)

The service from Hi-Spec has been lousy in recent times due mainly to the lads who have worked there. One of them has now left, and the other is out sick. If you speak to Jeff or Fiona (who is currently running the front-of-house as well as the accounts (paperwork side) then you will have no problems.

The lads are the main problem. I have a mate who got a set of 300mm 4-pots for his RS2k and was told by the lads that he had to change his 17" Ford 7-spoke softedge wheels as the Hi-Spec kit would not fit. No ifs, no buts, like it or lump it attitude. We spoke to Jeff personally who said that all you have to do is use a special bell and bracket set which moves the caliper further in, aleviating the problem. Modified parts were supplied, brakes fitted, job jobbed. If you really want a decent service, then ring on a Saturday morning when only Jeff and Fiona are there.

I got a brake upgrade kit from Fiona myself today and it was a nice, simple, easy transaction and even got discount purely by asking.

So, in simple terms,
speak to the lads = crap service, failed promises
speak to the bosses = good service, fulfilled promises
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Originally Posted by iansoutham
A couple of things on this subject (well, the original one anyway)

The service from Hi-Spec has been lousy in recent times due mainly to the lads who have worked there. One of them has now left, and the other is out sick. If you speak to Jeff or Fiona (who is currently running the front-of-house as well as the accounts (paperwork side) then you will have no problems.

The lads are the main problem. I have a mate who got a set of 300mm 4-pots for his RS2k and was told by the lads that he had to change his 17" Ford 7-spoke softedge wheels as the Hi-Spec kit would not fit. No ifs, no buts, like it or lump it attitude. We spoke to Jeff personally who said that all you have to do is use a special bell and bracket set which moves the caliper further in, aleviating the problem. Modified parts were supplied, brakes fitted, job jobbed. If you really want a decent service, then ring on a Saturday morning when only Jeff and Fiona are there.

I got a brake upgrade kit from Fiona myself today and it was a nice, simple, easy transaction and even got discount purely by asking.

So, in simple terms,
speak to the lads = crap service, failed promises
speak to the bosses = good service, fulfilled promises
Hmmm,

If only my supplier of a HiSpec billet 4 kit knew that
Bought a kit, then went to my supplier to fit it... then one amazing moment, the pads didn't fit. In the end we filed the pads down to a size that they would fit. Me not happy, supplier not happy.
In the end it finally went well. Adjusted the calipers to take the thicker discs.
I agree that the parts itself are great value for the price you pay, but they definitely should do more about QC and service.
Don;t look good if you find a QC OK paper in the box and they delivered the wrong thickness discs.

I'm happy now, a few trackdays done and the brakes are doing their job well.

Don't know if I would recommend HiSpec if ones asked me. Definately would recommend my supplier. He gave me great service in this matter

Grtz

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