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Old Oct 10, 2004 | 11:15 PM
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christ, my T4 spun up at 4700 and i thaught that was way way too laggy!!!

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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Neil@carwise
Originally Posted by MADRod
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I am pretty sure on a saff there is not enough room under the arches, unless I am wrong (which is distinctly possible). Does anyone know a good combo on the rear??

235/45/17 Dunlop DO1j/ Jaguar 10" Diff/ Zoo rear beam kit. This will give you grip.
What gearbox /Diff are you running, please dont say Standard or i will start laughing.
600bhp will also require a Tremec TKO gearbox or similar.
Sorry for slow reply Rod, been away from pc. Thanks for rear end advice, a call to Zoo is in order methinks.

Just for the record in case anyone was wondering (I doubt anyone is that interested), the engine was built by Carwise UK (me). The most important part of extracting power though, was carried out by The great man Karl Norris i.e. the headwork. Carwise has had a lot of heads done in the past, admittedly only about 40% of them Cosworth (I also do quite a few Nissans, RX7 s etc) but I have never seen heads like the ones Karl turns out. They should be on show instead of hidden inside an engine bay, but that is where they do their job so well. The engine is strong and smooth and it revs like nothing I have ever driven. This is down to the head and map. Big Respect mate you have done another great job. Karl does heads for most of the big power cars you hear of (not sure about yours though Rod) but alas being companies they rarely say who does their head work. Carwise UK builds engines, set ups etc etc, but ALL MY HEADWORK IS CARRIED OUT BY KARL. Also some mapping probs that need an engine designers expertise. I just wanted to clear this up as I didnt want to try and kid anyone I ported the head because I did not. All Carwise heads are prepared by NMS PERIOD.

Thanks folks and sorry to bang on.
Neil Sometimes I look at posts and wounder why they are made, You are saying 1 person only is responceable for all the cossie head porting in the country for the high output cars I think not % wise it wouldnt even be worth talking about as there are a damm site more companise around than this,
Also you said not sure about Rods head in who had worked on it I can asure you it was not this person you are talking about,
I look forward to seeing your car tested In P F mag if you are interested in showing people how fast it is.

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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 03:32 PM
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 03:33 PM
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fyi neil - i found goodyear eagle f1's to have far more grip under acceleration than the bridgestones.
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 03:37 PM
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here we go again
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 03:39 PM
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Shonky standard rear beam is the reason for your lack of traction (obviously combined with an excess of power ).

So basically, you're saying Karl gives good head ?
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Danny@RADesigns
here we go again
Danny so you think thats a dig, Maybe you should look at it how it was said No digs there just asking a question.

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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird

So basically, you're saying Karl gives good head ?
and now Mikes off
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 05:13 PM
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Wow! sounds mental...

Rod is giving some good advice there. A turbo of that size, blowing that hard at that rpm through an awesome NMS head like that is going to produce HUUUUGE bhp so STOP considering cheap shit joke tires like 225 Falkens and get some serious rubber and a serious set up on the rear and harness the power properly

Unless you do have a standard diff and box then I would recommend some 15 year old rock hard 155 tyres from a Citroen AX

Good luck
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 05:15 PM
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Unless you do have a standard diff and box then I would recommend some 15 year old rock hard 155 tyres from a Citroen AX

Good luck

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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 06:45 PM
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Also you said not sure about Rods head in who had worked on it I can asure you it was not this person you are talking about,
I look forward to seeing your car tested In P F mag if you are interested in showing people how fast it is.

Yes

Without nos !


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Mark i can assure you that you would be VERY supprised who has a NMS cos cyl head on there cars

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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Alg1k
Also you said not sure about Rods head in who had worked on it I can asure you it was not this person you are talking about,
I look forward to seeing your car tested In P F mag if you are interested in showing people how fast it is.

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Mark i can assure you that you would be VERY supprised who has a NMS cos cyl head on there cars

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I dont care who has them just saying I dont and never will.

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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 06:52 PM
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Thats a pity your cars would have had even better performance
Oh well
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Alg1k
Thats a pity your cars may have even better performance
Oh well
Just incase you havent noticed and will be shown in Jan PF mag I have the Fastest Cosworth in the UK proven
Until someone Is brave enought to give it a go and PROVE they are faster until then ROD is fastest Top speed BAR NONE

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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 06:57 PM
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Thing is it could have been so much faster
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 06:58 PM
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Anyway Back to Neil Hopefully We will get to see this car in PF.

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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 06:59 PM
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Yes im sure it will be tested
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 06:59 PM
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Alg1k You dont know and I dont care as its not proven and never will.

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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 07:01 PM
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Out of interest does Karl do all of the cylinder headwork himself or is the actual machining done elsewhere. I heard a rumour somewhere the other day however thought it be best to ask the man himself instead of going on info supplied in form of chinese whisper?

Alg1k - until someone beats Rodney his is the fastest road legal cossie out there. If or when someone does then they deserve all the credit however until then with the greatest respect claims are simple claims mate!

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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 07:08 PM
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I can assure you Karl does all the cyl head work himself i have seen the copious ammounts of alloy swarf in his garage
Sunny not dissing rods car at all his car IS the fastest out there proven


Its only banter im really a nice person
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Alg1k
Thing is it could have been so much faster
It will be mate, being modded at the mo before going back for another attempt , the stats show we reached max speed at 1.25 miles so we are re-gearing & going again with more Power , dont like The Rocket going faster than mine down Brunters .
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 07:36 PM
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 08:00 PM
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 08:01 PM
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"It will be mate, being modded at the mo before going back for another attempt , the stats show we reached max speed at 1.25 miles so we are re-gearing & going again with more Power , dont like The Rocket going faster than mine down Brunters .
Rod"

I like that attitude Rod.

Taking on the rocket ron at the top speed game is a decent challenge game on

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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 08:03 PM
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smart looking car m8
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by * Rudey *
why not have a shootout rods saf v karls 3dr?
What planet have you been on.
Ive asked. begged & threatened to try to get such a match but its been turned down mate. He can do 280 on the B2459 in about 600feet but it wont run at Brunters apparently, maybe its too far South
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 08:04 PM
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r u trying without nos rod and see how fast she is then???????????????????
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 08:07 PM
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Neil busy looking engine bay But why with all that work and money invested are you relying on a Ł30 single coil and what looks like a blead valve.

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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by madevelopments
Neil busy looking engine bay
What is the rolling of the eyes for mark?

Are you not allowed a busy engine bay if you have a fast car?
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 08:09 PM
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or 1 gpa coil autronic is not everything m8
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 08:11 PM
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Tiff lightening the mood maybe I should have used this one
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 08:12 PM
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Maybe you should of done
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 08:13 PM
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Gus the recharge time for a coil running at high RPM and High cyl pressure are very short, When running this type of engine the Ignition side of things are very important.

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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 08:14 PM
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Neil - who made your breather and header tank set up?
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 08:14 PM
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mark i know that thats why im doing the coilpack conversion m8
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Rs Gus
r u trying without nos rod and see how fast she is then???????????????????

Whys that then. The aim is to go as fast as possible not nearly as fast as possible. Will probably use special fuel next time, Will use the same as Martins 195 run. Think he said it was Optimax, must find the Shell garage he uses. .
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 08:18 PM
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no rod wasent a piss take just a question out of curiosity
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Rs Gus
no rod wasent a piss take just a question out of curiosity
I would GENUINLEY like to know what sort of speed it would do without the NOS aswell BUT the whole thing that was made when your run was done Rod, it looks like people are saying things they dont mean

If you see what i am saying

Just want to know what sort of difference it makes
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lets take the turbo of and see if it goes any faster hey
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