Trist

What is it and what holds it??

dave cos4x4

iTrader: (5)

sure it was broken a month or two ago.

not sure with what though.

Trist

what sort of times do people from here get?
all it is I had a heated disscusion with my mrs's dad the other day after watching an old top gear where JC does it in the jag at just under 10mins and he is now convinced that in his 360bhp 4x4 sapph he can do it in less than 7mins.
I couldnt argue properly as I wasnt sure what cars have done it what times, will be going round there later and need some ammo

dave cos4x4

iTrader: (5)

imo, no way he can do it in 7 mins.

think the record is somewhere near late 6's early 7's.

JjCoDeX75

The correct answer to "I can lap the ring in less than 7 minutes in a 360bhp 4x4 saph" is .......

No you can't.




Any other will involve swearing!

JJ

dave cos4x4

iTrader: (5)

unless you are getting towed by the record holder.

JjCoDeX75

ROFOL

All that money wasted on formula cars, porsches and Radicals.


All they needed was a shonky old Sierra!

JJ

dave cos4x4

iTrader: (5)

pmsl!

Trist

thats about how it went the other night..

lukemakepeace

has the T1 gone round yet? that things fast!

Stu @ M Developments

iTrader: (12)

I bet Ł20 he will struggle to get under 10 without a lot of practise..

Kelv

iTrader: (4)

Sabine when she was 18 held the fastest lap record for a factory production car in a saphire cosworth.

in answer to your Mrs Dad, there is no way in hell he will do a lap in 7 mins in a 360bhp saph, and i bet hes never even driven it so he will be lucky to even get towards the low 9's IMO.

Mike Rainbird has covered near on a thousand laps and his car is spec'd almost perfectly for the Nurburgring, had aprox 500bhp when it was last recorded on a lap and did it in 8:07 (BTG) which is one hell of an achievement

grsford

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these are some of the times for road going cars, so if he can do a sub 7 min lap in a sierra we now no who lewis hamilton`s new team mate is

6:55 - Radical SR8, 360 PS/650 kg, Michael Vergers (28 Sep 2005)(video)
7:11 - McLaren F1, Mika Hakkinen, http://www.sps-automotive.com/en_sps...7Nt_zonda.html
7:12 - BMW M3 GTR (driven by Hans-Joachim Stuck)
7:12 - Radical SR3 Turbo, 320 PS/500 kg (test drive 07/03)
7:14 - Donkervoort D8 RS, 398 PS/760 kg, Michael Düchting (sport auto 11/05)
7:15 - Edo Porsche 996 GT2 RS, 542 PS/1284 kg, de:Patrick Simon (sport auto 09/05)
7:18 - Donkervoort D8 RS, 370 PS/670 kg, Michael Düchting (sport auto 12/04)
7:22 - BMW M3 CSL (LOADED), ~600 PS/1427 kg incl RG + 30L fuel, Richard Göransson, MPSC tires, Nov 5th 2007 (Sport Auto Lap with 3 overtakes) (loaded.se) (richardgoransson.com)
7:28 - Pagani Zonda F Clubsport, 650 PS/1230 kg (09/07)
7:28 - Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/1380 kg, Walter Röhrl, (Autobild 07/04)
7.32 - Porsche Carrera GT (Sport Auto Trophy, driven by Horst von Saurma)
7:32 - Pagani Zonda F, 602 PS/1230 kg (Michael Duchting)
7.32 - Porsche 997 GT2 2008 (Motor Authority, Autobild, driven by Walter Röhrl, complaining after the lap that he had to pass eleven other cars "Ich musste elf Autos ueberholen")
7.32 - Gemballa Porsche GTR 600 PS/1380 kg (Gemballa)
7:34 - Koenigsegg CCR, 806 PS/1140 kg (cold conditions), Horst von Saurma (sport auto), Oct 17-18 2005
7:38 - Nissan GT-R, 480PS/1720kg (manufacturer claim)(Nissan 10/07), (video)
7.39* - Porsche 997 GT3, 415 PS/1395 kg, *mfr. (quote sport auto 05/06)
7:40 - Porsche 997 Turbo 480PS/1565 kg Walter Röhrl
7:40 - Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren, 646PS/1768 kg Klaus Ludwig (AutoBild 07/04)
7:40 - Bugatti Veyron 16/4, 1001PS/1888 kg (Wheels magazine Australia, 12/05)
7:41 - Manthey Porsche GT3 M410, 413 PS/1320 kg (160.868 km/h), Lucas Luhr (Autobild 07/04)
7:42 - Porsche 997 GT3, 415 PS/1440 kg, Walter Röhrl (Automobil 05/06) sport auto 05/06)
7.42 - Corvette Z06 (Jan Magnussen)[2]
7:42 - Ford GT, 550 PS/1521 kg (as indicated by Octane magazine, 11/05) (news release, pictures)
7:43 - Lamborghini Murcielago (Autocar magazine 02)
7:44 - Pagani Zonda S 550 PS/1280 kg (sport auto 02/05)
7:46 - Porsche 996 GT2, 462 PS/1450 kg (sport auto 06/01)
7:46 - Jaguar XJ220, 3.5-litre V6, John Neilsen.
7:47 - Porsche 996 GT3 RS (sport tyres) [citation needed]
7:47 - Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano,620PS/1690 kg (sport auto)
7:47 - Lamborghini Murcielago LP640 E-gear (sport tyres) (sport auto 01/07)
7:48 - Porsche 997 GT3, 415 PS/1440 kg (sport auto 07/06)
7:49 - Helmut Dähne, Honda VFR750R
7:50 - Fausto "Faustone" Severi RSV1000R vs GSXR1000 Dähne (SuperWheels's Pattuglia Acrobatica 2002)
7:50 - Westfield Megabusa, 180 PS/440 kg [citation needed]
7:50 - Lamborghini Murcielago, (sport auto 06/02)
7:50 - BMW X5 E53 LM, BMW Lemans V-12 engine 750 bhp, Hans-Joachim Stuck (EVO magazine 08/2005)
7:50 - BMW M3 E46 CSL, 360 PS/1421 kg (sport auto 08/03)
7:52 - Porsche 996 GT3 (381 hp) [citation needed]
7:52 - Lamborghini Gallardo [citation needed]
7:52 - Mercedes Benz SLR McLaren (sport auto 06/04)
7:54 - Mercedes CLK DTM AMG, 582 PS/1678kg, (sport auto 03/05)
7:55 - Caterham R500 Superlight, 233 PS/460 kg, Robert Nearn (EVO magazine 07/2000)
7:55 - Ferrari F430 F1, 490 PS/1493 kg (sport auto 01/06)
7:56 - Chevrolet Corvette C5 Z06 405 bhp/3150 lbs
7:56 - Honda NSX-R (NA2), 280 PS/31kgm/1270 kg, Motoharu Kurosawa (Best MOTORing 08/02)
7:56 - Porsche 996 Turbo (sport auto 06/00)
7:56 - Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale (sport tyres) (sport auto 02/04)
7:57 - Lotec Porsche 993 Turbo (600 hp, racing suspension) [citation needed]
7:59 - Porsche 997 Carrera S, PASM setting “Performance”, Walter Röhrl, (WHEELS 06/04)
7:59 - Nissan Skyline GT-R R33, Dirk Schoysmans, without speed limiter (Autocar magazine 1997)
7:59 - Dodge Viper SRT-10 (11/05) Motor Trend
7:59 - Chevrolet Corvette C6 Z51,405 PS/1481 kg, driver Dave Hill (manufacturer claim)
7:59 - Subaru Impreza Sti Spec-C (Prototype), 280 PS/1370 kg (Subaru News 2004 [3])
8:01 - Bugatti EB 110 Supersport, 610 PS/1410 kg [citation needed]
8:01 - Nissan Skyline GT-R R33, 280 PS/37.5 kgfˇm/1540 kg, Motoharu Kurosawa (Best Motoring - Video Special DVD Series [The R33 GT-R])
8:02 - Mercedes CLK 63 AMG - Black Series, 507 PS/ 1790 kg (autobild 07/07)
8:03 - Aston Martin V8 Vantage (2005), 380 bhp/1570 kg (sport auto 10/05)
8:03 - Porsche 911 GT3, 360 PS/1391 kg (sport auto 08/99)
8:03 - Honda NSX-R (NA1), 280 PS/30 kgfˇm/1230 kg, Motoharu Kurosawa (Best MOTORing 02/06)
8:06 - Subaru WRX STi Spec-C prototype, 280 PS/42 kgfˇm/1370 kg, Motoharu Kurosawa (Best Motoring International video "NISMO Beast Unleashed")
8:07 - Ferrari 550 [citation needed]
8:07 - BMW Z8 E52, 400 PS/1615 kg (autobild.de 06/01)
8.09 - Audi RS4 420 PS (sport auto 06/2006)
8:09 - Lamborghini Diablo SV [citation needed]
8:09 - Ferrari 360 Modena [citation needed]
8:09 - BMW M6 E63 (sport tyres) [limited to 259 km/h] (sport auto 12/05)
8:09 - Honda NSX-R, 320 PS/1467 kg, sport tires, suspension modification (sport auto 08/02)
8:10 - Chrysler Viper GTS (Sport Auto 10/97)
8:11 - Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX GSR prototype, 280 PS/40.8 kgfˇm/1420 kg, Takayuki Kinoshita (Best Motoring International video "Carrera Invasion")
8:12 - Porsche 993 Turbo (430 hp version) [citation needed]
8:13 - BMW M5 E60, 507 PS (sport auto 12/04)
8:13 - Ferrari 355 GTB (Sport Auto 10/1994)
8:17 - Porsche 996 C2 [citation needed]
8:22 - Chevrolet Cobalt SS 2008 2.0 Turbo (Source GM)
8:22 - Nissan Skyline GT-R R32, 280 PS/36 kgfˇm/1430 kg, Motoharu Kurosawa (Best Motoring - Video Special DVD Series [The R32 GT-R])
8:22 - BMW M3 E46, 343 PS/1584 kg (sport auto 12/00)
8:22 - BMW M Coupe E36/7, 321 PS/1445 kg (sport auto 10/98)
8:22 - Mercedes CLK 63 AMG (fastest AMG test engineer)
8:24 - Subaru Impreza WRX STI, sport tires (Sport Auto 05/04)
8:25 - Jaguar XKR (Sport Auto)
8:25 - Porsche Cayman S (Sport Auto)
8:25 - Audi RS4 375 hp [citation needed]
8:24 - Mitsubishi Charisma GT Evo VI, sport tires (Sport Auto 11/99)
8:25 - Mitsubishi Charisma GT Evo VII, sport tires (Sport Auto 11/02)
8:26 - BMW 335i E92 Coupe, 306 hp (Sport Auto)
8:26 - Nissan 350Z (Sport Auto 10/03)
8:28 - Porsche 911 Carrera (993) (Sport Auto 07/97)
8:28 - BMW M5 E39 (previous model), 400 hp [citation needed]
8:32 - Porsche Boxster S (Sport Auto 12/99)
8.34 - BMW Sauber F1.06 Formula One car, Nick Heidfeld, April 28 2007[1]
8:35 - BMW M3 E36 Coupe, 321 hp [citation needed]
8:36 - Opel Astra OPC, 240 PS/1355 kg, Manuel Reuter (mfr., Oct 2005), sport compact record holder
8:37 - Mercedes C32 AMG [citation needed]
8:38 - Honda NSX (sport auto, 08/97)
8:39 - MazdaSpeed 3 Mark Ticehurst
8:39 - Honda S2000 (sport auto 01/00)
8:40 - Chevrolet Corvette C5 automatic, 344 PS/1505 kg (sport auto 07/97) (Crash involving civilian later in the lap)
8:42 - Audi S4 265 hp [citation needed]
8:42 - Lotus Exige, sport tires (Sport Auto 11/00)
8:47 - Honda Civic Type-R (Sport Auto 11/01)
8:48 - Opel Corsa OPC, 192 HP/1203 kg, Manuel Reuter, supermini record
8:49 - Jaguar XKR Coupe [citation needed]
8:52 - Mercedes CLK 430 [citation needed]
9:12 - Jaguar S-Type Diesel driven by Sabine Schmitz for an episode of Top Gear (Series 5, Episode 5 Bridge to Gantry)
9:59 - Jaguar S-Type Diesel driven by Jeremy Clarkson for an episode of Top Gear (Series 5, Episode 5 Bridge to Gantry)
10:08 - Ford Transit driven by Sabine Schmitz for an episode of Top Gear (Series 6, episode 7; Bridge to Gantry within tourist traffic)

philram

iTrader: (3)

outright lap record is 6:11.13, stefan bellof in a porsche 956 during '83.

get hold of a dvd called 'in car 956' as its got an full in car lap (the 6th fastest lap ever) with derek bell driving.. its awesome footage.

just found it on youtube.. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=0M11GOVfA50

Adam_BlackRS

Production cars....

Pagani Zonda F Clubsport - 7:27:82

http://news.windingroad.com/countrie...g-of-the-ring/

McGoo 69

well youll have to cut the rope on the last straight and over taking him in his slip stream otherwise you will be 2nd place

xr2i-carl

6:11.13

Stefan Bellof in in a porsche 956

Awesome driver

R.I.P

Trist

Paul Eggleton

Show him this thread and vid and he will rapidly change his mind!
https://passionford.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=299985

aduz

yep truly insane

Fiecos Dan

My Dad's done his first 3 laps about a month ago. on his trackday prep'd R1. and with lots of traffic done a 9.10 i think.
But he didn't like the risk factor, he will only push if he feels safe and knows the track, and the Ring scared him.


He's a well experience short circuit rider.

PT

What is the fastest it has been done in and by what? Doesnt have to be production car

philram

iTrader: (3)

read the thread and it'll tell you... twice

PT

As im not into porsches at all I assumed a 956 was someone going on about a production car again. But thanks!

aduz

It would be some production car to do it in 6.11

PT

alright fuck it then I will have one of these for not reading the whole post

aduz

Rich_w

If anybodies interested. The Pagani full lap is here

http://www.supercarmovies.com/html/c...SODE5movie.php

Shorter taster film here

http://www.supercarmovies.com/html/c...DE5trailer.php



EDIt.

I dont think Hakkinen EVER took a F1 round (by which I mean the Road car or his single seater car) so not sure where the 7m11 came from.