anyone got any pics of the air filter set up?

fancy maybe moving a cone behind bumper?

 

Look in the resto room think ther might be a pic in Twin's post of it with the bumper off, if not Doug Sterling posted a pic of the similar set up he has on hes Escos.
Think its just two 90' samcos joined together running through a hole cut in the inner wing then the filter is just bracketed up behind the arch liner.

 

I just looked at the thread for you... there aint one from the right side


PM Twins, and I'm sure he could get some

 

Here you go (Es Cos):

 

cheers mate looks superb defo no heat soak from turbo there although whats the act`s issue from rad?

 

what about when you go through a lot of water - or travelling at decent speed on the motorway ?

 

after some of the testing we did on rollers that set up might get alot of latent heat from the rad

 

I can't believe that, it's miles away, plus you get all the airflow through the open foglight grill(in the escos case). It maybe different for the 3dr and saph but I don't think it will be significant.

 

how long?!?!

 

you know that meshy stuff thats round the turbo to protect brake servo etc, whats it called and wheres it from?!

 

So did you test it on the rollers or not? If you did testing why the 'might'?
I did nearly 195mph so how bad can it be?

 

the might is beacuse we tested it on my car and not Porkies...

 

whos going to sell me another 90 degree bend in blue

and a fukn big holesaw

 

Whats the difference? Did you mount yours directly behind the rad then?
Seriously though what temps did you see just inside the cone?

 

Euan,

Thats a really strange statement.

Instead of the word "might", it should read something like:

"the heat soak from the radiator caused ACT's that were 12 degrees higher than the same air filter mounted in the engine compartment just 150mm away from the turbo and exhaust manifold".

 

Sorry for all the confusion but I didnt feel confident enough to say it defo will be effected as they until the cars in question were tested you just dont know.

we tested the temps at the airbox opening with it sheilded from the rad and with it un sheilded...

This is a diff set up from the cones in the pics but I was "guessing" they will prob be effected in the same way...

 

not on the road it wont. with proper air flow.

 

Im presuming when stated tested on a rolling road, you had a huge fan pointed directly onto the radiator and intercooler.

With the intentions of keeping the temps down in those areas thus being nowhere near the Air filter....

If however you have the car on the road the air is that much greater you are going to experience clean cool air in low pressure areas which will easily supply cool air to the air filter.

 

we can only test what we have on the rollers...we do all we can to keep temps consistant thru out the runs...

my car can actually make two almost identical power runs over a week apart from each other due to the steps we take to ensure things are keep as consistant as possible even tho the ambients are changing.

 

Would think even if there was heat soak from the rad it would be a simple job to make a shield behind the bumper almost enclosing the filter between the bumper ,inner arch and rad sheild.

 

You have bigger things to worry about than heat mounting it there for road use (like trying to keep it clean and free flowing ) .

 

Because you have tried it, right?

 

Cant see how it gets dirty there....... it sits sheilded by the bumper and there also is a hole/ grill in the bumper to keep a constant flow of air...

 

No, but I have seen the state of the filter of a car that had . It wasn't pretty . Also, ask Franco about the state of his similarly positioned one on his Festa .

 

Er, you've just explained WHY it gets so dirty .

FYI Doug has to wash and re-oil his filter TWICE a month to keep it clean .

 

Grrrrr!!! why i ought too

The hole/vent/grill in the bumper is only showing a small fraction of the overall cylidrical area.
So yes a 10% area will get more dirty air than the rest. But the remining area will stay clean and dry.

 

My previous Escort didn't have issues although after the gumball it was pretty dirty , Doug's doesn't and neither does Lee's or my new car... I will take your advice and remove mine immediately!

 

Question for Martin -

On your car ive noticed the silver/grey heat protective sleeve on the braided line near your turbo.

What make is this

 

You can get it from various places, 'cool it thermo tec' is one, not sure where I bought mine from though.

 

I think what Mike is saying is that the air that a bumper mounted filter "sees" is horrible dirty air.....................

But the air that enters the engine bay (the air that a normal cone or panel filter "sees") is a much cleaner air - after all, it comes from a completely different place

Also, dont overlook the fact that a bumper mounted filter can be much larger (therefore more filter area) as the packaging means a filter that is 260mm long (10.5") x 130mm (5") can be used.

A word of warning though - watch out for massive heat soak from that ever-so-close radiator

 

Doug,
No, I'm saying that yours in it's particular location is going to suffer from being splashed by dirty water in the wet and is going to be more likely to "Hoover" up dust in the dry.

With Martin and Lee's car not really being daily drivers and mainly seeing only track use, they will not have this kind of problem, but driving on our shit covered roads, I would not put a ROAD car filter where you have.





If you want to that is entirely up to you, but I would want it MUCH higher. It's your car, you put it where you like .

 

As you state its for road use then perhaps slightly higher ot to the side...

I had my track car blinkered eyes on today...

 

thats a similar position to the focus rs but the other side... why dont you get a sock like the focus rs filter has ? its the bit with the k&n logo obviously you would need a bigger one and fits over the filter

puddle swerving is also good practice

 

I had a ramair RS500 filter angled as the Reyland one does and yes when I did eventually removed it, it was covered (read that as I never cleaned it for 2 year of constant abuse! ) it looked horrendous!! I had to leave it to soak in a bucket of degreaser for a day to clean it properly.


But.............


In its defence, the car was used in all conditions (come rain or shine) and was inflicted with constant abuse. The engine never let me down!

 

Eat it Rainbird

 

Bufty air filters ive heard it all now

 

How do you make that out - in my eyes what he has posted goes AGAINST your positioning of the filter here not FOR it ? Sounds like he probably reduced the flow capabilities to about 80bhp driving it like that - not exactly efficient anyway !

 

Next, there will be filters, for filters....

 

He admitted that he hadn't cleaned it for two fucking years you peeenarse

 

If not longer!

And 3 RR sessions never differed over 2 years either with that set up!.....

God I miss that car............